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Hillary clinton losing wisconsin and now wyoming, pushing back in new york against Brooklyns Bernie Sanders who says shes not qualified to be president. Is the press finally doubting that shell coast to victory . Saturday night live back in the headlines for taking a few whacks at the donald. Im voting for you and the post jon stewart era comedy shows still hurt the candidates . Plus, my sitdown with jill kelli, smeared by the media as the other, other woman in the David Petraeus situation now talks about how petraeus deceived her and why it was a mistake to stay silent. Im howard kurtz and this is media buzz. Ted cruz easily beat donald trump in wisconsin this week. The pundits offered a mixed verdict on whether this was a major defeat for trump or just made it slightly harder for him to reach the magic delegate number of 1,237. Theres something about his support that is so solid that despite the loss in the face of all this, it shows a remarkable staying power. Cruz victory making it almost impossible now for donald trump to reach the magic 1237 delegate number before the republican convention. Trumps campaign ripped cruz saying hes a trojan horse for a gop establishment trying to steal the nomination and some in the media found that too harsh. I think he acted like a baby. Its time to be magnanimous. You lost, you move on, shut up. Texas senator landing on the cover of time with a head lip, likeable enough . And some pundits struggling to understand his appeal. Im a city guy. I dont get the cruz thing. I dont get him. Joining us now to analyze the coverage, heidi przybyla, for usa today. Gayle trotter, and mara ilysine, a fox news contributor. Is there a manic depressive quality to the coverage from cruz has totally changed the race by beating trump in wisconsin to trumps going to be on a roll when he creams cruz in new york. The media is in such a quandary. Trump had this air of inevitability about him prior to wisconsin. And then wisconsin happened. It completely blew up the narrative. A lot of people are confused on which way to go. The truth of the matter is if you look at the numbers, 90 are saying they expect this contested convention, which a lot of reporters have no clue how to kind of read those tea leaves and how the delegates are going to line up and its going to be a very confusing process shifting from covering state by state coverage to delegate math and the intricacies of how the different state conventions work. A fox news poll out this morning has trump at 54 in new york, twice as much as kasich and cruz combined. Gayle, that statement i referred to on the night of the wisconsin loss by the Trump Campaign said that cruz is breaking the law by illegally coordinated with his super pacs. Didnt offer any evidence. You think the press moved on too quickly from that statement . I think they did but i think that public is not really interested in this. We have a back and forth. Cruz made the allegations that the Trump Campaign planted the National Enquirer story. That had as little evidence as trumps statement that cruz had coordinated illegally with the super pac. I think the public is really not interested. Not interested in which part . Isnt it our job as journalists to blow the whistle when one candidate makes a charge with no scintilla of evidence against another candidate . Certainly. The journalists need to put the facts out there. Its the publics role to decide if theyre interested in pursuing it. On sunday morning, donald trump on zero sunday shows. Hes been a little bit low key since losing wisconsin. He had the big rally on long island. Every Cable News Network awaiting trump rally. Its almost like they dont know what to do when hes not out there blasting away on twitter and giving multiple interviews and feeding the media beast. They, the media . They dont know what to do. Thats possible. Donald trump has sucked all the oxygen out of the room and a huge driver of ratings. The whole republican primary is the donald trump show. But i think whats interesting about the media not knowing or not knowing whether to call this a sure path to a contested convention, that 90 number is from insiders who expect a contested convention. The interesting thing about the exit polls from wisconsin is majorities of republicans dont think there should be a contested convention. They think the nominee should the person with the most delegates, not a magic number of 1237. We certainly know the insiders have been right about everything this whole campaign year. Come on thats whats great about this. There is no media monolithic line on this. Because nobody knows whats going to happen. Let me come back to the cover story on ted cruz, likeable enough . Does that get to the heart of the issue or is this the media elite looking down their nose at ted . Im sure gayle will completely agree with me on this. But i think its fair just because as someone who covered ted cruz in the senate, this is the central question, not only in terms of where he is in the campaign right now, but throughout his entire career. Ted cruz completely changed the culture in the senate from one of being about personal politics of party and advancing the politics of your party to personal politics. He used the filibuster that was his weapon of choice. And his brand was obstructionism and confrontation. He made a lot of enemies. And now the big question of where we are in this campaign right now is can he get those same people to come over now to rally behind him . You look at his supporters, even people like lindsey graham, the best he can say after a big victory is not congratulations, ted, but this one will create a path for blocking donald. So we have to talk about the piece itself. It is so slanted. Its time magazines effort to puncture the balloon of ted cruz after his surprising victory in wisconsin. It is so slanted. It has this quote in it talking about theres this painful choice that republicans have to make between trump and cruz. That is definitely the media elite of washington and new york saying that republicans are not excited about these two candidates who have generated so much enthusiasm. When you say when the article says hes the most hated senator in washington and quotes john mccain as having called him a whacko bird and john boehner calling him a jack ass. That seems to be a fair political commentator. But the likable enough headline, the implication is hes likable enough, or is he . You know where that comes from . Barack obamas back handed comment of Hillary Clinton saying that she lacked warmth and she was cold bloodedly ambitious, right . Likable enough, hillary, but do you want to respond . I have been in so many meetings. Off the record meetings with republicans, and they could not believe some of the things that ted cruz did on the hill to kind of alienate not only the leaders but the rank and file. It started with the shutdown, pushing things that he knew had no chance of happening to stop shut down the government over obamacare. With the Republican Voters. Thats what the Republican Voters wanted. Thats why boehner is no longer speaker of the house, why we had the senate majority. Because Republican Voters were saying they had a enough. The question of where we are right now is can he get the establishment . These are the same people he called the washington cartel. These are the same people hes but its the medias responsibility. What is interesting about this of all the many pieces of conventional wisdom completely obliterated by the republican primary, one is you have to be well liked in washington in order to prosper in republican primary politics. No. You dont. Ted cruz is not only second now but hes also cleaning up in all the Shadow Campaign delegate selections. But i think there have been other reporting this week including an article in the New York Times where Kelly Ann Conway who is running one of cruzs super pacs says things are changing. The establishment went from saying, oh, my god, do i want to be stabbed or poisons, the choice between trump and cruz, to maybe hes a regular conservative republican and i can live with that. Let me bring it back to new york. Trump, as we all expected, is throwing the new york values line that cruz used back at him. I think the media are happy to amplify that charge. Of course. Of course. This is new york. Look, you showed the daily news headline. Take the you know what train. And this is new york so in your face. You cant compare. We went from wisconsin nice to new york nasty. And, you know, ted cruz learned in the bronx a cheer is a jeer. He went through the hazing ritual of the tabloid headline. This is being pumped up. His goal is if he can keep trump to under 50, that will be tough, thats what counts. The boston globe today this mock front page put out in the opinion section. We can put it up on the screen. Deportations to begin. This imagines were in a trump presidency. Markets sink, trade war looms. Libel law targets absolute scum in press. Does this go too far . Certainly, i think trump voters and if this was intended to reach trump voters, are going to view it that way. Theyre going to view it as crossing a line from providing information to advocacy, and they may also be offended and think theyre talking down to them with some of the specifics that were in there. Alt the same time, its an editorial. And its completely within the realm for an editorial to raise questions about what the implications of a candidates policies will be. Its an opinion section. They call him unamerican, demagogue and this is the media not just opposing donald trump, not just saying hes a bad candidate but almost screaming that hes a threat to western civilization. Id say it shows that the Mainstream Media through this president ial election cycle has descended into fear mongering and hysteria. If you look at what theyre putting out with this it reminds of ted kennedys character assassination of bob bork. During the Senate Supreme Court hearings. But those are politicians. Have you ever seen the media do Something Like that . Not just left wing media. The National Review had a big cover against trump with 22 conservative writers. The media attacks donald trump which he loves to run against. They have gone up to deaf con 2. National review is a selfidentified conservative publication. The boston globe has a liberal editorial page, i think this is not obliterating the fire wall completely because they place that thing on the editorial page instead of on the front page, calling it a parody, in the opinion section. But its knocking down the firewall. Massachusetts, i think to date, was Donald Trumps best state. He got 49 point something of the vote. I think in the republican primary, timing of it. Theyll be influential in going into the other northeastern states. Like connecticut. The boston globe doesnt agree with the verdict of the conservative voters in massachusetts. When we come back, new yorks Massive Media mob at the center of the political universe. Which candidates can handle the tabloid times . And hillary and bernie using the media megaphones to trash each other. Is this finally a real race . The the media mega phone to trash each the media mega phone to trash each ive been blind since birth. 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Wonderful interduction there. How pumped up is the new york press corps to have a president ial primary in a state that matters and to be able to pound the candidates in their fashion . We should point out that it matters for a change. New york generally doesnt matter, particularly president ial elections. It generally always goes republican democrat, excuse me. But now we have a contested, a very strong contest in the republican primary. And keeping trump under 50 is a key goal of ted cruz. I know that from talking to his people. They believe they can pick up delegates that way. And the tabloids are going to have a field day. I should point out also i write an occasional column for the new york post. Im kind of involved in this a little bit. Sure. Since youre a tabloid expert and involved in the tabloid world, are the tabloids or the tabloid culture of new york city determined to kick ted cruz around . You know, its a good question. I think he makes an easy target. Hes from texas. Lets be clear here. And donald if youre going to talk about a guy that is like a marine and a navy s. E. A. L. And a green bueret when it goes to tabloid coverage and dealing with the tabloids, thats donald trump. He survived this vicious news cycle in the 1990s when we read about his multiple divorces, almost insolvent at one point and he came back from that. He didnt just survive. He thrived. Hes almost a creature of the tabloid culture. He knows how to poke his finger in the eye, get feuds going, get ink. I think all of that has been to his benefit in this campaign. It helped his resiliency. It also is his negative. I think were at the point now where people, particularly Republican Voters, i hear this a lot in new york state as well. Theyre saying do we really want this guy as our president . Do we really want a guy that is so tabloid driven that no sort of attack is below the belt. Do we really want this guy as the republican nominee . I think its starting to backfire on him. Ill say this the daily news attack, cruz attacked trump early on. He called him a clown. Put a clown face on him early on. I will say this the tabloids, i would say like i say, i write an occasional column for one of them, theyre not as powerful as they used to be. The news is different now. We dont see people reading the tabloids on the subway anymore. If you take the subway, which i do, a lot. Its a different culture. Sure. Everybodys gone tabloid. I take your point. Newspapers in general are not as tabloid. Before we go, what about bernie . Hillary clinton, the former senator from new york, but shes from illinois. Bernie is from brooklyn and he sounds like larry david. Does that help him . Yeah, i think it does. He gets coverage. Listen, i think being from new york helps when you know how to use the tabloids and what power they have right now. I think donald is a master at that. That doesnt mean hell get over 50 . I think at some point voters look at this, and dwling youre seeing that in new york, and theyre saying do we really want this as our president . A guys that, you know, this sometimes unhinged. All right. Charlie, great to see you. Thank you very much. Hillary clinton leading in new york in that fox news poll out this morning with a substantial double digit lead. Ahead, jill kelley, the woman caught up in the petraeus sex scandal on being smeared by the media. Next, how the president ial candidates are battling the press or boiling the press as the Campaign Turns red hot. Candidates are battling the press or boiling the press as the Campaign Turns red hot. Hyeah . M. Weve got allstate, right . Uhhuh. Yes. Well, i found this new thing called Allstate Quickfoto claim. Its an app. You understand that . You just take photos of the damage with your phone and upload them to allstate. Really . So you get a quicker estimate, quicker payment, quicker back to normal. I just did it. But maybe you can find an app that will help you explain this to your father. Quickfoto claims. Just another way allstate is changing Car Insurance for good. All the candidates seem to be blaming the media or mixing it up with journalists these days. I cant remember a president ial campaign where the role of the press was so hotly contested. Ted cruz insists they are in the donalds corner because he thinks virtually all journalists are partisan democrats. Our friends in the media tell us that donald trump is unstoppable in new york state. Oddly enough, our friends in media are very comfortable with the new york liberal who supported andrew cuomo and Hillary Clinton and chuck schumer. So cruz says journalists love trump because hes liberal. A nice bank shot that hits both targets. We know what trump thinks of the disgusting press. He got into it with msnbcs Chris Jansing when she asked about his contentious interview with the antitrump radio host charlie sykes. Sometime you go into unfriendly territory. Thats part of the game. And thats what you considered wisconsin to be . No. You said about you were talking about the radio host. Thats what i mean about the dishonest media. Im asking you a question allowing you to answer it. Excuse me. Youre asking me about a show host. I said he was unfriendly territory. Then you say is that wide wisconsin . Thats so dishonest. Look, thats called dishonest media. Well, jansing did set a trap for him giving trump an opening to turn it back on her. Bernie sanders cited a Washington Post headline clinton questions whether sanders is qualified to be president. And justifying his attack on her as unqualified for the white house. All the headline was a bit of a stretch because clinton didnt use those words, sanders reverted to one of his favorite themes. Let me be clear. This is not the type of politics that i want to get into. I know thats what the media loves. So bernie whacked hillary because he thought she had whacked him and then blamed it on the medias hunger for conflict. Thanks a lot. Whats also striking is how much newspapers have mattered in this campaign. Sanders took heat for the lack of detailed answers with the New York Daily News editorial. Unable to say even what laws he would use to break up the big banks. Trump got knocked for his session with the Washington Post Editorial Board for telling bob woodward were heading for a massive recession and his comments to two New York Times reporters on nato and nuclear policy. Sometime the press is actually doing its job. But it also happens to make a pretty fat target. Ahead, now that its saturday night live is mocking donald trump, is the show becoming a political factor again . First, the media suddenly focusing on the democratic race again just as things turn nasty in new york between hillary and bernie. Again just as things tur in new york between hillary and bernie. 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Ask a urology specialist if botox can help calm your bladder. Visit botoxoab. Com and learn how botox can be a low cost option. After Bernie Sanders clobbered Hillary Clinton in wisconsin, the two really ratcheted up rhetoric in media appearances for the new york primary, such as when chris cuomo asked hillary about comments by Bernies Campaign manager. Jeff weaver said Something Interesting on our air here saying that, you know, the clinton campaign, secretary clinton, they need to be careful not to destroy the Democratic Party merely in pursuit of her owambition tresident. Very strong words. Your response to that idea . Well, i mean, its just ludicrous on the face of it. Sanders then held a News Conference and hit back. This campaign will fight back. So when you have headlines in the Washington Post, clinton questions whether sanders is qualified to be president , my response is, well, you know, if you want to question my qualifications, let me suggest this. Maybe the American People might wonder about your qualifications, madam secretary. Were back with the panel. Gayle trotter calling her unqualified after claiming she said the same about him. Is why the press seems a lot more interested in this democratic race . I think so. Its very newsworthy. The Washington Post later that week had a piece talking about Bernie Sanders saying that hillary accused him of being unqualified three pinocchios. Three pinocchios, yet bernie is relying on the Washington Post earl yeheadlines going to that conclusion. So i think that it just shows that these Fact Checking pieces are Opinion Pieces in the guise of objective reporting, and the post is loving all this drama. Yeah, the post headline is misleading. She merely declined to say whether she thought he was qualified or not in an interview. She was pressed three times. She dodged the question. She dodged the question. After so many months of, you know, this high tone, i disagree with the secretary on the banks. You can sense that isnt this what tv really wants, personal attacks . Of course it is. As a matter of fact, he even said in that speech, i know the media wants us to do this. Well, you know, he also is facing a kind of do or die situation in new york even though hes won eight of the last nine. A lot of them have been in red state caucuses. And he needs to try to beat her in her own home state. But what happened on msnbc he said, yes, i think shes qualified. Pushed into it. Right. Now because its a new york primary, you add Hillary Clinton trying to get on the subway, having trouble with the metro fare card. Ive seen that nine million times. I think we have the video. He thought you used a token. You put a token in. Its been many years since bernie lived in brooklyn. But the pundits always come back to, well this is interesting. Hillary clinton has a delegate lead. If she were to lose new york or it were to be close after losing eight out of nine to bernie, and wyoming yesterday, would the medias storyline shift to, are there potentially really serious weaknesses in the hillary candidacy . I think we may already be there, howie. The reason why is i dont think she needs to lose new york for that narrative tore relevant. Look at the advantages she should have in the state having represented it. Its most importantly a closed primary where the independents have been carrying bernie. Cannot vote, so if it even comes close there, i think that people will start to people being the media will start to raise real questions and alarm bells will go off as to her strength as a general election candidate. I dont think people will say shes going to lose the nomination. I think there will be real questions raised about her strength in a general. Among her media appearances this week, she went on the view. Here she is with joy behar. You have donald trump saying things like women who have abortions should be punished. I mean, its frightening. Right. Its frightening. What do you think will happen to women if a republican gets in if trump wins, god forbid . He started on his very first day saying that all mexican immigrants were rapists and criminals, right . The way he treated megyn kelly who is a superb journalist. I dont understand what he thinks is the role of somebody running for president. Gayle, lets start with joy behar saying that trump wants to punish women for having abortions. Is that his current position . No, its misleading. Shes spreading false information. If you go back and look at that interview Chris Matthews, trump wouldnt even agree that a ten cent fine on a woman would be appropriate. He wouldnt even say that. And he he did say in response that women should be punished and then the campaign walked it back. He did release a statement. If you go back, i think the most newsworthy thing about that is his pushback on Chris Matthews and his catholicism and calling him out for the media angle of that. Heidi, what about what Hillary Clinton said about trumps comment about mexican immigrants . Look, theres so much that is said that is inaccurate. Trump never said all mexicans. He said some are nice, implying he thinks many of them fit into that category, but that was an over you know, obviously, that was an overgeneralization. I feel like in the last cycle, howie, i remember being part of this grand Fact Checking operation where were all so wide eyed about Fact Checking everything that the candidates said. Its two things now. Were overextended. There are too many of them exaggerating things on a daily basis. Were also demoralized. Frankly, when we do put the fact checks out, which i can tellia from the heart we try do a good job of Fact Checking these guys and it doesnt seem to matter. It doesnt get the clicks and the attraction. Isnt that an excuse . We still put them out. You know, were human beings, too. It doesnt seem people care about your product. And Hillary Clinton admires megyn kelly so much, why she doesnt she give her an interview. One appearance on fox. Maybe she should. Such a strange campaign. We have Bernie Sanders, the only jewish candidate in the race. Now going to a vatican conference. Finally, all these stories now about the Trump Campaign having big shakeups because Paul Manafort was brought in to run the convention. Is that a little overdone . Every campaign has internal tensions. Go ahead. I was going to say, the Campaign Shakeup is like catnip. You cant resist it. But you know what . I think that the story has been covered pretty straight. Trump knew he needed a professional. He hired Paul Manafort. He goes on tv and says, i speak i report to the boss. And were going to get more traditional. Theyve been like meltdowns. Yeah. Game of thrones. 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Tonight i want to address that pesky media whos really crawling up and under that skin of mine. Camera two, zoom in. I have survived everything thats been thrown at me. When i say women, you say suck. Women. Suck. Women. Suck so is all this for laughs or can it be damaging. Joining us from new york is Marisa Guthrie of the hollywood reporter. Does this mockery of trump portray him as kind of mean to women, does it have any political impact . I dont think it has any political impact. I think that trumps base is not going to be swayed by saturday night live. Theyre not even watching saturday night live. But it does reflect the broader narrative that has taken hold about trump in the last couple weeks. Well, so a lot of people say the show is not as relevant as it used to be even when tina fey was doing sarah palin. But trump thought the program was important enough to cohost. Im not saying is going to change votes because they made fun of donald trump, but comedy shows can have a way of perpetuating a cultural narrative. Thats right. I think that hes obviously saturday night live having him cohost, getting in bed with him at that point. They were a little light on him for many months after that. And even some of the cast members there said as much. You know, they sort of certainly on that show that he hosted, they had to pull their punches a little bit. And now, obviously, that was in november. The gloves are off. Youve seen him put his foot in his mouth over the last couple weeks and they have pounced. But they youre saying that snl follows the polls then . Trump dips a little bit and they can be a little more vicious . Yeah, but also, they have given him trump has given saturday night live and all other comedians lots of ammunition with the david duke kkk thing, with his missteps on abortion, and so you know, they have deesh while they always had a lot to work with with trump, now they have a lot more. And speaking of other comedians sh he is fodder on the late night circuit. Here is Stephen Colbert on late show with sort of an interview with donald trump. How do you respond to Anderson Cooper comparing you to a 5yearold . Anderson cooper is a dumb dumb. Hes a stupid head. A total poopy pants. Its sad. Okay. Right now i got to say youre sounding a little immature. I know you are, but what am i . The cartoon donald trump. Now look, last night on snl kate m micmckinnon did her Hillary Clinton. I think thats more gentle humor. Now some of the comedy shows are kind of being a little bit more hostile to trump. Am i wrong . I think they are being more hostile to trump. I think that but maybe theyve been being hostile to hillary all along. So it doesnt seem like theyre being suddenly hostile with trump. Saturday night live is certainly a little nicer. I think also, you know, the comedians appreciated trump. But look at john olivers takedown of trump from a few months ago. That certainly was not that was certainly extremely on the nose and they also know, i think, that trump will a lot of stuff gets under his skin and hes going to react to that stuff. Thats going to perpetuate their comedy and they need that now. The one good thing is Darrell Hammond is back doing impersonations. I think he is terrific. Great to see you. Thank you for stopping by. Nice to see you. Thanks, howie. After the break, the media painted her as the other other woman, rumored to have improper relationships with two top generals. Now jill kelley reveals the email thats landed her in the midst of the petraeus scandal. 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With the savings that i am getting from the solar panels, its going to help me to have a Better Future for my children. To learn how you can save energy and money with solar, go to pge. Com solar. Together, were building a better california. Jill kelley was stalked by a mystery emailer who turned out to be her friend David Petraeus jealous lover. When she went to the fbi four years ago, the investigation led to petraeus resignation as cia director for improperly sharing classified information. But leaks by investigators sparked media frenzy that trashed kellys reputation over her friendship with petraeus and john allen, a story that everybody covered. Investigators say she exchanged thousands of emails with general john allen, the Top Commander of the war in afghanistan. Those emails they tell us were pretty explicit according to one official who seen them. The official called them the equivalent of phone sex over email. Kelley has a book out called collateral damage, petraeus, power, and politics and the abuse of privacy. I spoke to her in washington. Welcome. Thank you. Whether some news outlets suggested you were having an affair with David Petraeus and saying that your emails were between flirtation and phone sex, what was it like to be in that eye of that media hurricane . Its an experience that no person, no lawabiding citizen that goes to seek help from our fbi for protection should ever go through. Re today that have stalkers, whether it is Cyber Stalkers or physical stalkers. But to then have their emails exploited and completely mischaracterized, actually false lies about their emails, its an awful feeling to see how, number one, youre watching tv and you know thats absolutely not true. How did that make you feel about the press and did you feel kind of helpless to fight back . What i learned over time is, and its not a very comfortable or warm fuzzy feeling, but the press was misled by the top political officials. The people who did the leaking . Thats correct. The unnamed sources. The smear merchants. But at the same time, now, you were kind enough to do your interview with me, a print crime. And the attention is going to be on the stalker and the director resigned because hes compromised, thats what makes the news. You stay quiet, but unfortunately, these government officials who were so preoccupied in covering up their wrongdoings that caused petraeus to they cover up wrong doing without congress having a knowledge about the National Security network compromise. That is without the media that felt the personal life of general petraeus. You describe how petraeus, you were Close Friends with him, and his wife. Asking the fbi to drop the charges. He did that and then, he resigned after obamas reelection and your note saying i screwed up terribly. You write to general petraeus, i know i wont totally recover from the irreversible damage, so i dont think its wrong to take back what we worked hard to earn. How disappointed did you feel hearing a witness say you were innocent . Looking back he was in a very difficult position. Between poor holly, what she endured, what the family experience, the fact he was compromised by not only his staffer, but by his bosses. You repeatedly asked him to help clear your name. He didnt want to do that. Its disappointing because of the damage his political enemies did to us to get to him. By releasing your personal emails, both petraeus and others arent you doing to him what you say government leakers did do you, invading his privacy . No. Our privacy was destroyed by these leakers. What im doing is to show there was no other women, none of this is true. Its bogus and the fact our government continues to collect emails, on millions of innocent americans today, im going to say what happened to me can happen to you. Writing to Hillary Clinton, then, at the state department, calling say, whether you coauthored to make yourself a queen bee and saying you seem to be an ambitious dolt. I was taken by how sexist that was. If i was a man, if my name was joe kelly, that email would have never transpired. There are 70, everyone of them leaked was sexist. No woman should ever go through that just because they reported a crime. These falsehoods were bogus and puts women behind. Its not fair what they did. Our country has come far along, women can make a difference and not be queen bees. The chat tral damage, how lasting is it . The damage has been done. General allen was humiliated and retired in that shame after serving our country so proudly. My family, innocent kids. 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