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Launches a counterattack that is still insisting on his their coverage of the mueller incidence despite probe has been overdone, overwhelming innocence overhyped and overwrought. Despite overwhelming evidence to this is the greatest the contrary. This was handled badly. Journalistic challenge of the modern era, to report on a after all the money thats been malignant presidency. Spent trying to solve this case what we are watching in the of smolletts alleged attack, Trump Presidency is worse than suddenly its dropped one watergate. The president of the united morning without much in the way states has been lying to the of explanation. American people for years now, lying that he was ever doing any there was such an uproar over business with with a foreign it. The tribunes not alone power which was, at the same time, committing criminal acts howard oh yeah. To help get him elected i wanted to cite the local president. This is the First Time Since paper. It was also a political scandal watergate and perhaps even before watergate that we have because trump saying the justice had a president of the United Department and fbi will invest states, while in office, it. Is that payback or perfectly appropriate . I think its perfectly implicated in committing crimes. I am outraged by the behavior appropriate. What just happened this last of these networks. Week is baffling and reeks of okay. Collusion, collusion. Corruption. Collusion, collusion. The media did latch on to this collusion, collusion. Narrative until the evidence okay, heres my, heres my became overhemmingly against case apolo jielz. Jussie smollett, and its kind never. Dont knock reporters at new of funny right now that so many people in the media arent york times or the Washington Post or the wall street outraged or shocked by the journal or the broadcast situation that happened because it speaks to just how ridiculous networks for doing their job the allegation was in the first right. Howard is the press, after two place. You had outlets tweeting things years of investigations, tone deaf to these complaints . That, basically, the bakedin a former democratic candidate narrative, stars rally to who says joe biden made her smolletts side. The implication is the attack cringe with an unwanted kiss take toss the airwaves this they were hollywood stars. Morning. Right. Are the media giving the former [laughter] howard they were two nigerian vp president iallevel statutemy . Brothers, i misspoke. If. Whats most galling from a media plus, Jussie Smollett who perspective is Police Gather all fooled much of the media with this evidence and, look, even if hed gotten community service, his hate crime hoax gets off im not saying he should have gone to prison for ten years, scotfree. But prosecutors didnt even make im howard kurtz, and this is him admit he was not telling the truth and this was a hoax. Mediabuzz. Chicago justice . That means a lot to judges, contrition. Former governor Rob Blagojevich got a big sentence because he Howard Donald trump jr. Has was so gregarious about it. Become a highly charged political presence in his own the fact is this was the states right. Controversial, he really mixes Attorneys Office that decided it up on twitter, a fierce to drop this before it ever got defender of his father, to court. That is another reason why naturally, and until Robert Mueller ended his investigation, people are griping about it. A constant target of media and why, we note that part of scrutiny and speculation in the the problem was kim fox, the russia probe. I sat down with the president s eldest son in new york. Prosecutor, is a good friend of Michelle Obamas former chief of donald trump jr. , welcome. Staff, so now the rightwing good to be with you, howard. Press especially howard with Robert Mueller [laughter] bringing no further charges, sees conspiracy everywhere. The obamas probably knew nothing this question how did it feel about this, but nevertheless, to hear yourself with constantly described as being in deep its a big deal, and everybody trouble and possibly facing wants to Pay Attention to it. Indictment . Listen, it was less than fun. I mean, i guess the reality is i howard 20 seconds, emily, its knew what had happened because i not clear whether smolletts was actually there. Coming back to the fox show while i may have been the catalyst for this, i also empire. Harvey levin thinks the ratings realized this was a lot of might soar, but im thinking a lot of people arent going to nonsense that was perpetrated by watch this guy. The democrats and the media and i think the public has zero pushed mostly because they appetite for him, and they wanted it to be true should also be outraged the howard but there was an blame lies with Jussie Smollett, investigation. There was. And without question, and when but they should be outraged by you see the gamesmanship thats how the media treated this when it first came out. Been played over these last few years and the ambiguity as to howard and on that note i just want to say police sat how it all started and why, you on this for three weeks before certainly have to wonder. There was an element of, you they announced it was the a know, relief from that because hoax. It wasnt just the media. As a pretty tried and true howard emily and clarence, american, you dont want to hear thanks so much. Those kind of things, you know . Thats it for this edition of your father is a russian agent. Mediabuzz, hey, check out my you know, im going to jail for new podcast, you can subscribe treason. At apple itunes or google i mean, it was all nonsense and play or at fox news podcast. Com. Sound bites, but you dont want to hear it, and its been, you remember also to check out our know, a pretty disgusting road. Facebook page, we post original howard i can see where it would video and columns and continue take a toll. The conversation on twitter. You see the democrats are i like hearing from you most of the time. Were back here next sunday, 11 collusionpushers, i dont necessarily agree with that eastern. See you then with the latest language, but isnt that a pretty broad brush . Buzz. Every reporter, every commentator, nobody tried to be fair . I think there were some miralax works with the water in your people that tried to actually be body to unblock your system naturally. Fair. When they were actually fair, and it doesnt cause bloating, youd see the other side just cramping, gas, or sudden urgency. Miralax. Look for the pink cap. Try to obliterate them, even their own following. I think there were a couple people who did good reporting, and m i dont mean conservative reporters. I mean people on the other side. They were at least unbiased howard youre saying it was dangerous for them to try to be oh, they lost their followings, they get ratiod to heck. It became a Business Model for most media to attack donald trump, and if you didnt, you upset a lot of people and risked your career, other things. And so, you know, the people who just bought into this hook, line and sinker who were selling it day in and day out, every day, raquen. This must be the truth, weve rakutahn. Rakooten. Seen the evidence they lied to the American Public for two years, howie. Theres no ramifications, theres no nothing. But they did a major disservice to the people who did do a good rakuten job, a small group of people who oh were, you know, reasonably is this my money . Objective and did a good job. Whoaaah and more importantly, they did a haha rakuten terrible disservice to this ahhh rakuten country, to journalism as a profession. I think theyve done irreparable whooo damage to the faith that the average american is going to want to take your next vacation to new heights . Have in terms of main stream tripadvisor now lets you book over a hundred thousand tours, journalism. Mainstream journalism. Attractions, and experiences in destinations around the world i think its a blight on our republic, on democracy and on like new york from bus tours, our constitution thats not to breathtaking adventures, going to come undone very tripadvisor makes it easy to find and book Amazing Things to do. Quickly. Howard you said recently bob mueller was using an old stalinist tactic, you show me the men, ill show you the crime. Now that hes closing up shop, do you want to revise that read reviews assessment . Listen, my statements stand check hotel prices as to how all of this started. you know, this was a witch hunt to end all witch hunts. Howard ive heard that phrase before. Once or twice howard as far as how mueller conducted himself. 19 lawyers, all of them happened to be Hillary Clinton donors . Come on. You know, i think they could have done a much better job putting those teams together. They could have gotten rid of some of the flagrant bias that just screams to you when you look at the way this stuff was set up. Howard but in the end, was it fair . I think so because they didnt find anything, but the reality is there was nothing there to find. Now, i dont believe for one second that theres not one person on that team whose dream it would not have been to take down donald trump. I stand by that 100 . And i think anyone whos a conservative whos seen it and anyone whos an independent and objective probably believes that. Howard as far as donald trump jr. , with the benefit of hindsight, are there things you would have done differently . For example, taking the 2016 trump tower meeting with the russian lawyer. You know, you had a russian lawyer who was trying a case, earlier that day downtown in new york city. Im in business. You take a hundred meetings for something that happened. You listen. You want all the information. So i dont. But whats frustrating to me though is that that was the basis of two, three years of investigations, nonstop this, President Trump threatening to traitor, all of the sound bites that youve heard. Take drastic action over but the fact that that person illegal immigration. Was meeting with fusion gps he warned he will shut down before and after that meeting, that hundt and the dnc the border with mexico as early as this week if the Hillary Clinton and the dnc were country fails to stop the slowing trend growing number paying fusion gps for this of Central American migrants information, that they paid seeking asylum at the border. Foreign agents in foreign hello everyone and welcome to countries, thats no problem. Americas news headquarters. That merits no investigation whatsoever howard once that meeting was revealed by the new york this all comes as the times, could you all have done director for customs and a better job of getting the Border Protection said u. S. Facts out . Immigration system is now at a the reality is this, people breaking point. Say, oh, we lied they asked here is counselor to the what the meeting was about. President Kellyanne Conway reacting to the surge of we have no obligation to tell migrants earlier today on fox the New York Times in a kill news sunday. Piece more than we want to say. You can take the president but the reason they knew about seriously and here is why. It is this, we handed these emails over. It wasnt that the New York Times magically discovered this. We handed it over, and someone leaked it, but we were being open and honest, as we have been. You dont think for one second that the, you know, the tinfoil hat brigade adam schiff you dont think that he gave my testimony, those seven or eight hours of the 27 hours on a 20minute meeting, 27 hours, you dont think those guys were giving all of that to mueller to make sure lets see if he lied somewhere . We were open and honest from moment one. Howard you also called him slimy, but should we get to a point now the investigations over where the white house and congress, democrats and republicans, could Work Together and to some things for the country, and wouldnt that require taking a little bit of the i said that the other night on tucker, actually. Id lao to see love to see republicans and democrats get together. How about we work on infrastructure . The realitys this. Look at the numbers, howie. Look at unemployment rates, look at your 401 k , look at the stock market, look at rising wages. You know, again, alltime low africanamerican unemployment. Alltime low hispanic unemployment, female unemployment. My fathers record is impeccable. Howard youre talking about your fathers record. Now, top aides and advisers to him have told me on many occasions sometimes he distracts from his own agenda with the twitter attacks and insults. You ever had that conversation with him . [laughter] this is a nowin answer, howie. Howard i think ive struck gold. I think there are times when that certainly happens. Im guilty of it myself. Hes a counterpuncher. But if we lived in a fair world where it was 50 left and right and people were trying to be objective, itd be one thing. But we live in a world where 93 negative coverage. Of what . Of the record i just described . Of alltime low unemployment numbers, of bringing jobs back to America Howard thats on a number of networks, yeah. 93 negative on a winning record of getting things done and accomplishing things. So you have to hit back. Hes got an incredible platform. Hes created that for himself. I always say he plays monkey in the middle with the press, because if you leave it to them, theyre only going to report their narrative. Howard okay, but right after we learned in further indictments, nothing on collusion, mueller didnt make any recommendation of obstruction, president tweeted that the msm is corrupt and the enemy of the people i always object to that, enemy of the people so hes still on offense. Does that mean hes going to continue to run against journalism . I dont know that hes running against journalism, hes running against fake news. Howard he says all of Mainstream Media. Most are still not reporting this quite that way. Theyre looking for the loophole. Well, bill barr did this on the obstruction piece. No, no, bill barr and Rod Rosenstein not exactly a trump fan howard hes a republican appointed by the president. I dont think anyone actually believes that, okay . They leave those parts out. The Mainstream Media has been their own worst enemy in all of this because they cant help but push the narrative that they want. Rather than the narrative howard what im saying is if the president continues through november of 2020 to talk about the mueller investigation, how he feels he was mistreated, you know, that also drives the coverage. Do you want to keep talking about, does your side want to keep talking about this . I think you have to keep talking about i think people heard about the deep state for decades. They read about it maybe a little bit. I dont think they gave it all that much credence. But when you look at the last two year, you know, thats a big part of it. And, again, i do believe that a lot in the media not all, but a lot, the vast majority, the biggest names are are totally complicit in this and in pushing that message. You can see, howie, ive never as an american experienced a time where i would have thought that the democrats would be visibly upset that the president of the United States did not actually collude with the russians. Howard right. Partisanship aside, thats a been. That ice kind of a winning thing. Oh, it didnt happen. You would think theyd be happy about it. Theyre not. They wanted it to be true. Thats whats scary. Howard let me ask you about an n if pr story about you late last year, im sure you remember this, that michael colms testimony raised questions about your truthfulness in congressional testimony. Turns out the wrong project, you actually had talked about the other cohenrelated project, npr retracted the story, said it had moved too quickly. Correct. They were one of the few that did a good job of that. They actually retracted it because there were two different things, and if they read paragraph further in my testimony, they would have realized it. But thats the problem. Oh, here it is, hit it. Hit send. Weve got to attack. If they would have taken fife seconds longer five seconds longer, they would have realized it was very clear and on the same page that they were referring to that it was two different things. Hey, theres other institutions that didnt do that. Cnn did the thing where Michael Cohen testified donald trump jr. Told his father about the meeting howard in advance. Right. And rainy davis was the source lanny davis was the source. Howard thats somewhat in dispute, according to lanny. Retracted it, said it wasnt true howard said he didnt know whether it was true. Now cohens testified correct. So they know its false. They have people on both sides saying its false, and they just leave it out there as gospel because it was the narrative they wanted. Howard more of my interview with the president s son right after this as we get into his battles on twitter and his dads testy relationship with the New York Times. And later, the media is starting the scrutinize joe biden on how uncomfortable a woman made her feel with a kiss on the head. Were doing karaoke later, and youre gonna sing. Jamie, this is your house . I know, its not much, but its home. Right, kids . Kids . 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Does he want the papers approval even as he criticizes . I think the reality is hes going to criticize people when he feels hes mistreated, but hes going to give them the opportunity to make it right. In this case perhaps hes given them too many occasions to make it right. Howard youre a bit of a brawler, why do you dive into those other controversies . For example, when Lori Loughlin and Felicity Huffman were charged in that College Admissions scam because they seem to have an opinion about everything that relates to us. Its always nice to again, ive got a bit of the counterpunching gene. It probably took politics for me to realize i was more like my father than i perhaps thought before this. [laughter] again, its more about rallying against a lot of the hypocrisy thats out there. Everyone has an opinion on this. The second something happens on that side, its not news, its covered up howard sometimes maybe i should have let that one go . I dont know that ive ever regretted sending one. Ive regretted perhaps the response to it. You know, but again i think, you know, theres what you intend to say and the message and then theres the way its sort of contorted and twisted and turned. You put something in writing and, you know, certainly ive seen it in interviews, and ive seen this with my father. Hell be at a speech, and hell say donald trump said this. Really . When . Yesterday. In pennsylvania. But i was there with him, he didnt say that. Well, no, but if you take minute number 1 and minute number 15 and minute number 43 of a speech and you combine it into one thought even though it wasnt, he said it. Im like theres just a lot of dishonesty in terms of the way i mean, the best is when you see him when hes clearly, hes got a sense of humor. Howard yes. Oh, my god, he literally asked the russians to like, really . Like they make it seem he did that in some sort of private meeting as opposed to in front of 27,000 people its a joke, and you cant pretend its not. Again, this is a place where the media does themselves a great disservice because any reasonable individual watching knows that hes just having a good time. Howard you grew up in business here in new york. Did you now youre very much in the political arena. Did you ever envision that kind of life for yourself before 2016 . Not really. It was really before we announced, i guess june 16, 2015, i probably never envisioned it. And i sort of figured on november 9th that id get back to work. I had a lot of emails that day, congratulations, buddy, we were with you all along. Of. [laughter] i dont think so. Funny, i havent heard from you in two years, but now youre with us. Thats also sort of when the attacks started coming and, you know, the reality is im a fighter, im willing to fight howard did you enlisted or were you drafted . I enlisted. 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You got this woo howard with michael when Michael Avenatti burst onto our television screams, it was as Stormy Daniels lawyer. In the space of two months, cnn and msnbc put him on the air more than 100 times, several times a day as he spouted his antitrump message and sometimes hurled unsubstantiated chargings. These two networks helped create a folk hero. Theres been some questions about how often ive been on can cnn and other networks, etc. , okay . Its all a bunch of nonsense. Howard the famehungry attorney soon convinced himself he should run for the democratic president ial nomination, and some anchors and hosts encouraged that delusion. Someone said to me, do you think it would be odd if you were all of a sudden in a few years, do you think youll be saying, you know, i used to interview that guy as stormy dan yeses attorney, and now daniels attorney and now hes president of the United States . How do you think your potential competitors stack um when it comes to taking on the president . Well, ive been traveling around the country raising money for democrats, and and ive received an incredible response every state that ive gone to. Howard during the Brett Kavanaugh hearings when avenatti represented the third accuser, julie swetnick, he made outlandish allegations and still got a platform. Is in the news r a very different reason. He was arrested in one case for allegedly embezzling big bucks from a client and in another for trying to extort 20 million from nike. A suit and tie doesnt mask the fact that, at its core, this was an oldfashioned shakedown. Howard so avenatti, who says he was exposing wrongdoing at nike, showed up in a tv studio. I am nervous, im concerned, im scared. But you also seem confident. I am confident because i believe the facts are on my side. Howard now even Stormy Daniels says avenatti was extremely dishonest with her. Lets face it, the media were complicit in building up michael avenue gnat9ty because they couldnt resist the combination of his antitrump fervor and showing pictures of his porn star client. We showed the picture. Ahead, why did many in the press buy Jussie Smolletts horrible hoax in the first place . But up next, two liberal pundits say theyre been banned from msnbc for defending President Trumpg during the russia probe. What . im here to steal your car because, well, thats my job. What . What . . What . laughing what . . What . what . [crash] what . haha, it happens. And if youve got cutrate car insurance, paying for this could feel like getting robbed twice. So get allstate. And be better protected from mayhem. Like me. Car vending machines and buying a car 100 online. Vented now weve created a brand new way for you to sell your car. Whether its a year old or a few years old, we want to buy your car. 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Washington post editor marty baron, others make determinations about criminal offenses. And the New York Times, we yo a lot about russia, its not our job to determine when it was illegality. Meanwhile, two liberal comment caters Glenn Greenwald and Alan Dershowitz say they were booted aft other cable news channels for defending trump. It was continuously on msnbc which, let me just say, should have their top host on prime time go before the cameras and hang their head in shame and apologize for lying to people for three the straight years, exploiting their fears to great profit. Its time for cnn to issue an a apology. Cnn banned me from their air because i was being too fair. Howard joining us now to analyze the coverage, the culture editor at the federal list, and clarence page, columnist for the chicago tribune. So Alan Dershowitz, who voted for hillary, wrote in the hill he was ordered not to be booked for six months. The brass didnt want their viewers minds to be confused by the law or the facts. Strong charge. Well, the notion that cnn was trafficking purely in facts over the last two years is absolutely laughable. And same was true of msnbc, so either of them would have absolutely disrupted that narrative, and there was very little disruption as someone who watched both of those airwaves. It was all narrative, narrative driven purely for two years and very few people willing to disrupt it. Howard its also true that dershowitz got a lot more invitations from fox news when he started defending President Trump in this case. Given the thousands of segments, thousands of stories, millions of online posts about russian collusion and obstruction which now therell be no more challenges should journalists do a little soul searching about whether they went too far . I dont think our souls need to be searched. Its what you look at in order to return if youre being ethical, if you being moral, if youre being balanced and fair howard you believe the coverage was balanced and fair for two years . Theres a difference between News Coverage and opinion analysis, and thats what has been mixed up, unfortunately, in our media in this era. A lot of folks look at a commentator or anchor like we have in prime time on cable these days and say, well, hes not being objective. No, hes a commentator. [laughter] hes, you know, whether youre talking about sean hannity or talking about Rachel Maddow or others who mix up their analysis with their reporting howard but even in daytime News Coverage or newspapers, forget about opeds, it seems everyones saying, well, no regrets, we did everything right. Thats not how much of the country sees it. Actually, when you look at this, brian shelter himself of cnn said speculation has its place in the news media, and what cnn was doing was with speculating for two years, and even some of the reporting wasnt based on fact. They had had to retract several stories because what they wanted to be true is what they were pushing. It was difference between just the pure truth and what they wanted to be true, and thats why we saw all this narrative be pushed across their network for two years there wasnt smoke out there though. There was a lot of smoke, and youve got to follow that smoke, and who knows where the fire is. We havent even opened up the Mueller Report yet. Yes. Weve only looked at a cover letter about the Mueller Report. Howard we havent seen the report. Nobody is saying there shouldnt have been coverage, im talking about the nonstop nature of it, the overwhelmingly negative tone. And, by the way, the president demanding that the New York Times and Washington Post return Pulitzer Prizes they received for this coverage. The fact that nobody, the fact that there are no further indictments doesnt mean the stories were inaccurate, but there were a lot of high profile blunders made. Emily, let me play something that the president said at the rally in grand rapids the other night going off on the media and the ratings. The crooked journalists, the totally dishonest tv pundits and, by the way, they know its not true. They just got great ratings. By the way, their ratings dropped through the floor last night, did you see that . [cheers and applause] howard president went on to say that the ratings surge for our friends, sean hannity, Laura Ingraham and tucker carlson. So hes boasting on twitter that the ratings for cnn, msnbv, morning joe went down msnbc. Joe scarborough says, mr. President , youre 34 in new hampshire. Does trump measure the success of everything he does by ratings . Absolutely. And i think his background speaks to that. He comes from the television world. He los Media Attention to, of course, thats absolutely true. But cnns ratings were up, and when were looking at motivations for pushing this narrative, its because they did see an uptick in ratings when they started to focus on russian collusion. Rachel maddows ratings were up bigtime, and she discover discovered it. The dramatic fashion every night. We dont want to be dull in our business. [laughter] howard i asked this question to donald trump jr. , is he going to keep talking about mueller and keep talking about it until election day . Who howard is the president of the United States going to keep making trump isnt talking about mueller, hes talking about us, the media, you know . I wish he would talk about mueller. If he had talked more about the russia collusion charge early on, we wouldnt have had all these suspicions. The fact is when you gather what facts youve got and then you start to draw some conclusions, when you start speculating excessively, youre absolutely right, there was too much of that mixed up with News Coverage, however howard let me returning prettier prizes, thats grandstanding. Pulitzer prizes. Theyre still true. Howard now, just breaking more this morning, lucy flores, she was the democratic nominee in nevada for lieutenant governor, has written a chilling piece in the new York Magazine about how joe biden who came to campaign for her, ill let her tell the story. Shes out there saying how uncomfortable the former Vice President made her. Here she is on cnn. I feel joe biden put his hands on my shoulders, get up very close to me from behind, lean in, smell my hair and then plant a slow kiss on the temperature top of my head. It was just on the top of my head. It was just shocking because you dont expect that kind of intimate behavior. You dont expect that kind of intimacy from someone so powerful. Howard emily, is the press starting to give joe biden president iallevel scrutiny . Yeah. I think hes polling at the top of the list, and i think its warranted. I think its potential that there are some allies of the other candidates in this race that are leaking this howard but in the case of lucy flores, she says she felt compelled to speak. Heres another quote from that interview, the reason why i felt compelled to finally Say Something was over the years this behavior was documented as it was, frankly, dismissed by the media and not taken seriously. Right. She absolutely has a good point. If joe biden, for instance and i dont want hike to play the what about game if he were a conservative, he would not have gotten a pass from the media for years and years because this is evidence of him behaving like this, photographic evidence going back years. Howard clarence, biden put out a statement this morning, not once, never, did i believe i acted inappropriately, but someone suggests i did, so i will listen respectfully, but it was never my intention. Would all this negative attention affect the his decision to run . It certainly already has, im sure. Remember, howie, we would not be talking about this in these terms if it hadnt been for al franken being forced to resign, and then there was a backlash against kristin gillibrand, why are you purpling our wonderful candidate . Purging our wonderful candidate . Biden knows this, he knew it for a while, so i dont think thatll stop him. Howard yeah. I think he had to figure out some of this would come out, but the media at least doing their jobs. All right, paneling stay put. Panel, stay put. How economists smeared ben shapiro as an altright guy. Bookers book now and ask their boss later. [do you want breakfast or no . ] [definitely breakfast. ] be a booker at booking. Com let me just tell you exactly what my message is. The Republican Party will soon be known as the party of health care. Howard President Trump drawing plenty of media criticism for moving yet again to abolish obamacare with journalists arguing and quoting unnamed republicans as saying that he has no Health Care Plan after three failed attempts to repeal and replace the program that he and his party ran against. I spoke earlier with ben shapiro, editorinchief of the daily wire and author of the new number one bestseller, the right side of history how reason and moral purpose made the west great. Ben shapiro, welcome. Thanks so much for having me. Howard the pundits are nearly unanimous in saying that President Trump, its bad politics for him to again bring up getting rid of obamacare. He was riding high after the Mueller Report are. After three failed attempts to get it repealed through the republican congress. Are the pundits wrong . No, i actually dont think they are. I think that the president suggesting theres a plan in the wings is, obviously, not the case. Ive spoken to legislators in the senate and the house, theres no plan that is forthcoming. The only thing that might be true is that President Trump is planning, essentially, for the Supreme Court to uphold his former statements on obamacare, and then he can blame the democrats in congress for blocking any sort of reform, make them own the status quo as well as the possibility of medicare for all. That could be a clever political strategy. Howard right. But he is, of course, backing a lawsuit that would get rid of obamacare, preexisting conditions and all, without any plan in place, as you just noted. Right. And that, again, may be his lawyers betting that the Supreme Court which still has the same constituency, john roberts in the swing vote position will vote the same way they did before, and trump can say, listen, i did the best that we i could, i even sided with a lawsuit to thats not a terrible argument against the case. Howard blame it on john roberts. You were apologized to by a british magazine, what happened . I think a lot of people who dont know what the altright is, ill attribute to arrogance rather than mag lis. A bunch of folks on the left seem to think everybody whos conservative is altright. It is based solely on race. And western civilization is just about white people. Oddly enough, folks on the left seem to think the same thing, but the altright believes what makes western civilization great is it is about white people. That is false and stupid. I was the number one recipient of the altrights hatred, so the economist was wrong on its face, and thats why they did the right thing, pulled down the head ryan and then called me headline and then called me a radical conservative. Are in any nonradical conservatives in the opinion of the economist . [laughter] i guess i can take that, altright was not a thing i was going to allow to stand. Howard and you not the apology. From your book you say we are angry at each other. The anger is palpable, where did it come from . My question is youre an aggressive player in the partisan wars. Do you, does cable news, do the media contribute to and fuel this anger . I mean, i do think that, obviously, Strong Political conversation is going to lead to polarization. But the question is you can have Strong Political conversations where you disagree and you discuss and still love the person youre arguing with at the end of the day if you feel you have the same shared goals, if you feel you have the same common base from which you are working. What seems to have happened is the sort of polarized battle were seeing on cable news, i think, is a reflection of a deeper underlying unease with the fact that we dont have all that much in common anymore. The book really is an attempt to reminded us we have a 3,000year developmental history in western civilization and that right, left and center, we all still should agree on freedom of speech, freedom of religion, a government that is not m powered to invade our lives. These are concepts that we should all agree on, if we cant agree on those, then the arguments were having right now actually carry an enormous amount of weight, and maybe we should be angry. Howard so you see yourself as sort of slamming other peoples policy ideas or views of ideology and civilization but not demonizing them. Is that the distinction here . Absolutely. I hope that and i dont always succeed, but i certainly hope im attacking peoples ideas and not them as human beings. Howard right. When you went to speak at berkeley, famously, protesters shouted speech is violence, which is an interesting twist of meaning. You also say that despite the fact that youre an orthodox jew, youre routinely castigated as a nazi. Where does that come from and just personally, how hurtful is that to you . Obviously, on a personal level it is deeply discomfiting. It is not a nice thing to be labeled a progenitor of the worst mass murder in histories against people who shared a religion with me. [laughter] thats ridiculouses and silly and evil, frankly. The general polarization, we live in an era where it is very convenient to tear down your political opposition by labeling them lack, by labeling them morally insufficient, that they have hack of character. And that is a sign not only of bad politics, but bad underlying motivation. If youre slandering somebodys motivations without knowing the person, the idea is they are innately bad because we disagree on political partyies that weve matters that weve disagreed on for years and year, but my policies suggest white superiority . Youre engaging in, effectively, character asaws a nation and a certain form of tribal warfare. Howard and theres way too much of that in on line sewer, i would agree with that. Ben shapiro, congratulations on the book. Thanks very much for joining us. Thanks for having me. Howard the dropping of charges against just citying smollett is indefensible, why the media are furious he didnt even apologize for his hoax. Try alkaseltzer pm gummies. 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