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Oval office the man he blasted as unfit to serve as commander in chief and who has vowed to undo much of his legacy. White house correspondent kevin corke live from the white house where that meeting seems to be taking a little bit longer than expected, and we may get some comments from them. Reporter yeah. Im looking at my watch, come on, guys, lets speed this along here. We have reporting to do here at the white house, sandra, youre right. Going longer than certainly was suggested by White House Press secretary josh earnest, probably 15, 20, maybe 30 minutes or so. My sources off the record told me it could go as far as an hour, but were now beyond the 12 00 hour, so who knows how long theyre going to sit in there and chop it up, as the kids like to say . I want to draw your attention to some of the pictures around the white house grounds, ive not seen a press gathering this large since president obamas first trip here to the white house. So quite a bit of excitement here on the white house grounds as mr. Trump, the president elect, does have that conversation. Theyll talk about policy, theyll talk a bit about the transition. I think more likely, though, this is a listening tour for president elect trump, a chance to really get down to some of the, pardon me, hard questions that he may have for the man whos been in this office for the past eight years. I want to share with the folks at home just a bit of sound. We had a chance to ask the White House Press secretary, josh earnest, if the president who as you pointed out previously referred to mr. Trump in a number of ways that could be described as far less than platerring still held those beliefs. The president had used forceful language in helping people understand exactly why he was so passionate in his support for secretary clinton. And those are authentic views that havent changed. Thats not just rhetoric. Those arent just slogans. Those represent the president s actual views and preferences. Reporter okay. So let me just make it simple for everybody at home whos trying to figure out whats he really saying . Okay, what josh earnest is saying the president really does believe what he had to say, but hes suggesting this is all part of the process, if you will, the political landscape. What is said during the campaign isnt exactly, perhaps, as he might describe his feelings for mr. Trump in a face to face meeting which they continue to have at least as best i can tell as i continue to take a look down the promenade here. And, of course, as soon as we hear from them, well let you know. And i should also point out, sandra, we have a bank of cameras, huge bank of cameras to my left, so if mr. Trump decides to the walk by and have a conversation with us, ill be there for you. Sandra thats why everybody should stay tuned. Kevin, thank you. Live from the white house, charlie hurt, president elect donald trump and president barack obama, what do you think the discussion is right now . I think probably like you said, i think donald trump is definitely trying to do his best to sort of prove to the president that hes not this monster that hes been made out to be. But the thing that josh earnest said is really disingenuous to. Its fine for a president to argue vociferously for a candidate in a president ial race, but he went after donald trump in such, in such personal ways, went after his character, went after him as a human being and his ability to he just said he was unfit. All of those things, weve never seen a President Campaign quite like that against a successor to the office x. Thats and that in and of itself, i think, was highly unpresident ial. And thats why i think this meeting right now is so interesting. Julie in fairness, this is somebody who delegitimized the president from day one saying he was not born in this country, was not gel able to serve constitutionally not eligible to serve constitutionally. This isnt a political food fight youve had between, for example, even Hillary Clinton and donald trump or you had between mitt romney and barack obama. This was somebody who went after the legitimacy of the president of the United States and his fitness not just fitness, excuse me, but legitimacy to serve kennedy yeah, but who was it at the dnc, im trying to remember exactly who that was who was talking about the political tone in this country and how it had fallen so deeply into the gutter julie yeah, or started by donald trump. Kennedy sanctimoniously said when they go low, we go high. How wonderful. Now, the president seems to have forgotten that at several points throughout the campaign because he did not use highminded julie why does everybody hold barack obama to a different standard than any other politician kennedy because she said when they go low, we go high julie hes the president elect. Anybody whos marching or doesnt accept this election is delegitimizing him, thats wrong. But that goes for both sides [inaudible conversations] for the office. Lisa for president obama, this is personal because this election was a rejection of his policies. Donald trump ran a campaign that was an indictment of obamacare, an indictment of his immigration policies, an indictment of the iran deal, an indictment of the failed economy. So this was a direct rejection of president obamas past eight years in office just like 2010 was and just like 2014 was. So it is personal for him. But if im donald trump, what donald trump needs to do is leave this meeting with the same tone as what he did with his acceptance speech. That was president ial, and thats the tone he needs to continue to set through the course of kennedy then they understand each err. I think thats a really important point, and i think they both understand each other, and they both realize that they are street fighters, and they can brawl, and it can get dirty. But then at the end of the day, hes leaving the job, the president , and i thought he was very gracious in the way that he addressed donald trump. And i think donald Trump Realizes that, yes, hes going to be president. Now he is going to shift, and i think they can both rise to that occasion. Sandra well, it appears that donald president barack obama is graciously handing off the baton as he did outside the white house yesterday with that speech. It was really interesting to get a look at the white house staffers behind the camera. [laughter] if you didnt see this, the emotions riding high. I mean, tears coming out from some of them. These are some of the images that we saw yesterday. This is so important right now, and this is why we have the camera sitting on the white house right now as this meeting does seem to be taking longer than expectations. There is a huge press corps sitting there waiting for these two. We may get comments for them. How important is this moment for the country as we do see these protests happening, charlie . Oh, i think its very important. To look at the pictures of the staffers, i remember traveling with thensenator obama in 2008, and all those people were on the plane traveling with him, and they had such visions of, you know, idyllic visions about what they were going to accomplish. And fast forward to, you know, eight years later, and there have been you know, hes had his successes, you know, politically, but largely its been a huge rejection of his presidency. And to look at the looks on their faces, its i mean, its, its tough, its tough medicine. Lisa but to speak from experience, thats tough though, to be in their position. And julie knows as well, working on campaigns, there is so much ebbs and flows because youve got a job for a few months, you dont have a job. Kennedy they had two terms. I know, i know, but [laughter] kennedy the add managers of George Herbert walker bush. They had their eight years as bush the younger did, they had their years, were they hoping for another eight years . [inaudible conversations] lisa even the campaign staff, its, im just saying i can have empathy for people even if i disagree with their political preferences and policies. It is, even for the people in the Campaign Kennedy then its time for selfreflection lisa i dont disagree with you, i understand the long faces. From Bernie Sanders sandra stop. Julie first and foremost, he did win more people did vote to continue his legacy than not, thats one. Two, i want to echo what youre saying. If you work in the white house, in d. C. , you give your life. I dont care if youre republican or democrat, you have no life. You spend 24 7 in the service of somebody, your principal. In their case its barack obama. In the case of the Trump Campaign and people who worked on his campaign, it was donald trump. And so, of course, when you lose your entire ray son dettra you eat crappy food at all hours of the night kennedy i understand, they all thought they were going to win. Even in every News Organization and every pollster thought she was going to win. I guess i just see the difference because i understand the frustration and sadness coming from her camp, but for him, ya had your time. Sandra also an idea of what this is like for donald trump showing up at the white house which will be his future home for him and his family, that moment when he walks in and he is escorted in with the for the one guy for which hell be downsizing to the white house. Yeah, no, its a big thing. But this is a guy thats been walking into the dens of his enemies his entire career, especially in the last 18 months, you know, whether its dealing with republicans, dealing with democrats. Everybody has dismissed him at every turn, and exactly what you were say, kennedy, a big thing about that sad picture is the fact that they were stunned. They could not believe, it was never they never thought it was a remote possibility that this big monster was going to win. And so suddenly theyre sitting there, and the impossible happened. And they dont they cant even, like, register it at this point. Kennedy has donald trump ever been to the white house . Im sure he has been. Kennedy think about that. Think about this moment. If your first time to the white house is when youve just been elected president storming the gate . Kennedy and you walk into the oval office and, yes, its hostile territory, but it also must impress upon you, holy cow, im going to be the inhabitant here very shortly, 72 days. You will be guarded around the clock by the finest marines there are, youre guarded by secret service [laughter] and, you know, its a heady place to be. Lisa its also incumbent on president obama, weve talked about the fact that donald trump needs to strike the right tones and be president ial and really set the tone for his presidency, which he did in the acceptance speech, but for president obama, itsal incumbent on also incumbent on him to respect the fact that donald trump won, to respect the wishes of the americans who elected him president of the United States. George w. Bush was incredibly respectful to president obama on his way out, after he left the white house. And lets just hope that president obama does the same, allows donald trump the opportunity, you know, to be president of the United States, to get some stuff done. And lets just hope that he offers the same respect to president trump. Julie well, look, i think and hope people on my side of the aisle are disappointed look, i am eating a lot of crow. I thought there was no way he was going to win, and i was wrong. But having said that, in the same sense you have to acknowledge that we do have one president at a time. And what i dont like about people delegitimizing this election on either side of the aisle, i think you have a lot of people who were saying she was going to steal this election with votes, no way, he won this election fair and square. He did. He won the Electoral College which means hes the president elect of the United States. And whats so to important is to understand that we do have one president at a time. We want him to succeed because that means the country succeeds n. Times when you can work with him, you should. When you vociferously disagree with him, you should. But we should all hope that he accomplishes what he said which is to make america prosper. I think america was always great, but if you want to make it greater, im right behind him. Everybody on my side of the aisle, its incumbent to do exactly what you said. I think barack obama respects how respectful george bush was to him. Im proven wrong. I thought he was going to be a horrible president. I truly hope im wrong kennedy and miraculous things can come from that. Look at the relationship of bill clinton and george w. Bush. I think a lot of americans hope regardless of the president s party that it is a very unique club and they can find a way of working together. Also this is a very young president. And, you know, we still, we have yet to see what kind of work hell do postpresidency. And how has the Clinton Foundation changed the way president s govern their own lives when they leave office . Will this president use that as a road map to enrich himself, or do you have to go in the diametrically opposite position and be a monk . One unifying thing that i think is very important that hasnt been talked a whole lot about is the number of people, voters, who voted for barack obama maybe once, maybe twice who also voted for donald trump. And both of those, both president obama and president elect trump, you know, owe it to those voters to, you know, keep that, you know, to carry out their julie but he also made a lot of commitments to his voters, right . He said he was going to build the wall but that. Julie no. You had people who specifically said i expect that wall to be built, and and i expect mexico to pay for it. I expect all Illegal Immigrants to, essentially, be deported, thats why i voted for him. I expect him to bomb the hell out of isis he didnt say hell, did he . Julie i think he did. He said worse than that. [laughter] hes a new yorker, his potty mouth is probably just as bad as mine. So, look, he made a lot of commitments to people and very tangible commitments. And hes got both houses of the legislature, hes about to have the supreme court. I think those voters who voted for him based on the fact he made those commitments to them expect that from him, and i await his plan as to how hes going to accomplish that because now he has it. Sandra you have to wonder whats going on. This was going to be a few minutes they were going to meet and discuss, and he was going to walk president elect trump into the white house, quite clearly taking longer than anticipated. Anybody who has met with donald trump, talked to him, hes a very charming guy. He is a very appealing guy. He, hes interested in people, he loves people, he engages in people, he dials in, he focuses. And, you know sandra are you suggest hes charming the president . Absolutely. It doesnt surprise me one bit. And i think its part of and maybe you could make the argument that because of the way he campaigned he invited a lot of this stuff. You know, clearly, it was unorthodox and impolitic. But, you know, people really havent given him any credit for being sort of, you know, a legitimate possibility for president , except for the actual people that mattered. And so, yeah, i think a lot of minds will change. Sandra and as these protests do happen in some parts of the country, i just got a note from someone who runs a large office down the street, young people came in so late and so tired because they were up protesting into the wee hours of the night. [laughter] julie what are they protesting . Sandra you just wonder, if there something that can be said when obama and trump walk out of that office in a few minutes, is there something that can be said to calm things down . Julie yes. You know what obama should say . Exactly what i said. The voters have spoken. Donald trump is the president elect, he will be our president , and he owes it to the country, and the country owes it to him for him to be successful. Kennedy and also say we respect your right to demonstrate. Julie no question. Kennedy its an important part of this country, as is the election process. And now as we honor both institutions, we have to get on with our lives. Julie we have to govern. Kennedy and i think Bernie Sanders actually said something that was very important, and he talked about the Common Ground that he and donald trump shared. And, you know, talking about servicing working famils, working class families in this country and making sure you put people back to work and get the economy going. And, you know, i would start with ending a lot of these regulations and barriers to entry for business so people can start businesses and and start making more money julie we have to get that. Lisa and if i was donald trump, i would pick three big ticket items, obamacare being one of them because republicans have made so many promises to repeal and replace obamacare, but pick three big policies he wants to get done. And and theres a lot of things he can do as far as be executive actions and rolling those back. But in regards to the protesters, i think that is the reason why donald trump won. Theyve seen these protests in cities after cities, the burning down of cities, the burning of the american flag. And they said that is antiamerican, that is not the country i love, and that is one of the reasons why donald trump won. Sandra we are going to keep our eyes on the white house, and we are watching for president elect trump and the president to walk out of there, possible comments from the big white house meeting between the president and the president elect. We are watching for that, and we will bring it to you live when it happens. Keep it right here, well be right back. 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Sandra fox news alert, right now the president and president elect meeting at the white house discussing the transfer of power. They could make some comments after, and we will bring those to you. Meantime, another high stakes meeting later today on capitol hill. Mr. Trump and vpelect mike pence will be having lunch with House Speaker paul ryan, discussing how they can hit the ground running in a trump administration. Ryan, of course, has had a rockily relationship with donald trump. Rockily relationship with donald trump. And Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell, who himself has had his differences with mr. Trump, says hes ready the seek unity. Hmm. Okay, so they seem to be coming around, charlie hurt. Yeah. I mean, and, you know, trump is a smart guy, he understands that there are these details that he doesnt need to know about and doesnt want to know about, and there are other people that are really good at it, people like Mitch Mcconnell and paul ryan are, and also, you know, paul ryan so trump annihilated, you know, all of his opponents on the right including people like paul ryan who had, as you said, kind of a testy relationship with him. He took, trump won wisconsin, a state that paul ryan couldnt pull when he was on the ticket. That is devastating. And so i think its so much easier for trump to be magnanimous having just completely destroyed these opponents. Julie but whats interesting what it says about the future of the republican party, because the paul ryans of the world, the Mitch Mcconnells of the world, free trade to some extent, much more globalist i hate that term, but yep. Julie than what you saw right now, youre right. I dont know how he did in janesville, wisconsin, but he won wisconsin. What does this say for paul ryans agenda that hes been very clear about trying to effectuate sandra who dictates it . Theres tension there, and i think thats terrific. The biggest problem weve had for the past two presidencies, theyll just do anything. And the same with george w. Bush and the republicans, theyll just do anything. Because theres no questioning. I love the fact that you have this tension now and that republicans on capitol hill are going to call donald trump on his stuff when he does something thats not conservative. And hes going to do julie but lets say, for example, im going to give you a specific, lets say this wall does get proposed to built, lets say mexico does not pay for it and we have to shell money out, hypothetically, you have a budget hawk and a balanced budget hawk like paul ryan in charge of the house, what does he do when a bill is presented to him saying heres billions of dollars in extra expenses that you have to pay for deportation or a wall that donald trump promised . There is no doubt there are going to be conservatives who are very disappointed in a lot of the negotiations donald trump does, but thats the way the system is set up. And hes been right about that the whole time, thats the way its supposed to work. Lisa i am fully confident that theyre going to Work Together, because there are enough issues that they agree upon, you look at obamacare, tax reform, you look at just some of these progrowth policies that donald trump put forward that republicans like paul ryan are going to agree upon. You also look at donald trump, donald trump is pragmatic in his approach. Ultimately, he wants to move the ball forward, get things done, and paul ryan is pragmatic as well. I think theyre going to sit down, realize that ultimately they have to Work Together, and theyre going to find the ways that they can Work Together. Kennedy they also have to find things, they have to find that important middle ground that also honors the people in the country who, you know, who are still hurting. I think that economic agenda has to be first and foremost. Lisa exactly. Kennedy excuse me. Thats also where you can find some bipartisanship and, you know, reaching across the aisle. Everyone wants to deliver jobs and economic success to their constituencies and find, you know, the best, swiftest ways to do that. Sandra i wonder what the future, if you could comment on this, lisa, is for paul ryan . He voted for trump and, remember, he said i cannot defend trump anymore after the videotape was released and that he would not back him. He said that hes now spoken to president elect trump twice since the other night. He said, quote he turned politics on its head. We will work hand in hand. Lisa well, julies not the only one who has had to eat crow this week. [laughter] a lot of republicans have as well, paul ryan, most certainly. Ive always thought this, and i dont understand why so many people they were talking about sort of the conflict whereas theyre, republicans futures were tied together this entire election. The better that donald trump did at the top of the ticket, the better that some of these senators running for reelection in tough states like wisconsin and pennsylvania and vice versa, because the better the teams and turnout operations that johnson had in wisconsin or toomey had in pennsylvania would also benefit donald trump as well. And just like their futures were tied in the election, their futures were tied for 2018 and 2020 as well. Theres a recognition that donald trump did, in fact, have a movement. We saw him he beat romneys numbers with africanamericans, with hispanics. He won millennials in wisconsin. [laughter] so, you know, that absolutely was a movement kennedy and wisconsin, by the way, a state where he lost in the primary. Now, as we wait to possibly here from president obama and president elect trump, repealing obamacare remains a top priority for mr. Trump and gop leaders. On the campaign trail, mr. Trump promised to do just that many times, but proponents of the law say any effort to repeal or replace it will be, quote, total war. Senate majority leader Mitch Mcconnell had this to say about it yesterday. Its a pretty high item on our agenda, as you know. And i would be shocked if we didnt move forward to keep our commitment to the american people. It was the single worst piece of legislation among many bad pieces of legislation passed in the first two years of the obama presidency. The sooner we can go in a different direction, the better. Kennedy but it is not quite as easy as just wiping it away, so lets talk about the republicans options for dismantling obamacare and how the democrats and outside groups could try to derail that. You know, charlie, this is something that you, obviously, cant do hastily. I think thats one of the problems they made with the aca. Democrats jammed it through congress, and the president was very eager to sign it. Julie and i, you and i have talked about this many times. Maybe they should have tackled immigration when they had the hat trick. The republicans do. What do they to now . Well, you know, everybodys been talking about how obamacares broken, and its not working. You know, actually the problem is obamacare does work. Its working. Its doing what its designed to do which is to take people who didnt have insurance and insure them, but make people who have jobs and work for a living pay for it. And that reality is what people are seeing now, and people really dont like it. And youre exactly right, the problem is that whatever you do, whatever republicans do with obamacare at this point, theyre going to theres going to be some people that get hurt. Kennedy yeah. And theyre going to get hurt in very personal ways, just like people have been hurt by the obamacare. And its a very tough thing. And i dont think anybodys going to be particularly happy with the outcome, because i think what we wind up with is something sort of, some weird mishmash of, thats like romneycare or Something Like that. Because politicians are going to be loathe to, you know, to just throw people out on the street. But the one thing that i think mr. Trump needs to keep in mind is the fact that hes going to be running into midterms in two years and then in four years, and if he wants to strengthen his hand, he also has to remember that conservatives came home for him. And hes going to still need them. And so he cant give away the store. Kennedy yeah. But its going to be a fight, its going to be nasty. Kennedy theres no easy solution to this. Weve talked about the bottom line and how much the aca has cost this country, how Insurance Companies it was supposed to be a bailout for them, and now theyre bailing out of the plan. Sandra so youre talking about 22 million americans that this affects, they estimate its about a fifth of our economy, that this would impact. Is and so the criticism of donald trump on the campaign trail was that he was make it out to be much more simple to just repeal obamacare. Its actually a very complex thing that i wonder if thats part of the discussion that theyre having behind closed doors right now. Lisa it is going to be complex. I wish it was easier, but obamacare took two years for the Democratic Party to get it done without a single republican vote. It would be in republicans best interests to try to get some buyin from the Democratic Party. The problem at least politically for democrats with obamacare was the fact that they owned it alone, and and that cost them majorities in 2010 and 2014 by historic margins. And they have 25 senate seats on the table in 2018n a Midterm Election where republicans have been kennedy i want to get julie in quickly because we have about 30 seconds left. Julie we talked about repealing and replacing obamacare for a very long time. I dont know what it means. I look forward to republicans telling us what theyre replacing it with. Kennedy good luck. [laughter] pottery barn rule, you break it, you own it. We continue to weigh possible comments from the big white house meeting going on right now between the president and the president elect. We will bring those to you as soon as they come in. Make sure you keep it right here, this is outnumbered. Outnumbered overtime coming up outnumbered overtime coming up after the show. Ot, t baby. Tell you all about that coming up. Dnt know was that i had dry, itchy eyes. I used artificial tears from the moment i woke up. To the moment i went to bed. So i finally decided to show my eyes some love,. Some eyelove. 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My friend, congratulations on being elected president of the United States of america. You are a great friend of israel, and im confident that the two of us working closely together will bring the Great Alliance between our two countries to even greater heights. Kennedy such great heights. And then theres mexico. President elect trump has saided the country to the south of our border will pay for the wall that he wants to build. Theyve said that they wont, but president Enrique Pena Nieto said he will work with our newlyelected leader. [speaking spanish] translator i spoke to donald trump to express to him my done congratulatelations. From this democratic process, a new chapter begins in relations between mexico and the United States which will involve a change, a challenge, but we must also say it, a great opportunity. Kennedy meantime, russian president Vladimir Putin says that he is willing to restore ties to america. He said in a statement it is not an easy path, but we are ready to do our part and do everything to return russian and American Relations to a stable path of development. Now, german chancellor Angela Merkel also congratulating the president elect with this reminder. [speaking german] translator germany and america are connected by values; democracy, freedom, respect for the law and for the dignity of human beings independently of origin, skin color, religion, gender, Sexual Orientation or political views. On the basis of these values, i am offering the future president of the United States of america, donald trump, close cooperation. Kennedy very interesting from the most powerful woman in western europe. It sounds like shes got a few conditions for her [laughter] admiration and congratulations. Yeah. Yeah, i think that, you know, for all of these people we talk theyre just stunned by this, and they dont they were convinced by the media that it wasnt going to happen. But, you know, Foreign Policy, so much of it is attitudinal and, you know, if and, of course, he also comes into office, he could pick anybody he wants. He could pick ambassador john bolton to be secretary of state and scare the wits out of the entire world. But you know what would happen . I think iran would stop buzzing our ships if he did that. Kennedy yeah. And, you know, what do you make of some of these congratulatory statements . Obviously, many of them are perfunctory, a lot of these people feel obligated to reach out and say something, many of them through gritted teeth. Julie oh, i think Vladimir Putin is taking trump at his word that he will not stand by nato. I think if im sitting in estonia or latvia or lithuania today, im terrified because the incoming as having the star wars taken away from them . Julie much morer terrifying. Really . Of course. You cant count on nato ships in the wallettics anymore. Baltics anymore. And what continues to happen with the russians is that they continue to get their bay. I mean their way. They have now conceded under the trump administration. Julie well, listen. Both, actually, ive been very critical of the president s attitudes towards the russians, but with respect to what donald trump has said about russia, hes the only leader who said, oh, wait, maybe the russians didnt go into yahoo crane. Ukraine. He said consistently that their taking crimea was not necessarily a bad thing, said he wasnt necessarily going to defend sandra we are getting a note from our white house producer about the conversation being had with president elect donald trump and president barack obama saying they had a wideranging conversation. It is taking longer than expected, obviously. But obama says that they talked about foreign and domestic policy with donald trump. Not much of a kennedy sitdown. Foreign and domestic. [laughter] sandra not a huge surprise there but worth reporting. Lisa. Lisa i have a feeling there was a lot of disagreement. [laughter] somehow no. But regarding the foreign leaders, ultimately, these countries are going to do what is in their own selfinterest and best interests, and that is going to have to be working with america. And to charlies point earlier, yeah, russia and iran have gotten away with a lot under this president and, indeed, in fact even paying the iranians off as well. So theyve had leeway to essentially do whatever they want without any sort of condemnation from president obama. But, yeah, ultimately theyre going to do whats in their selfinterests. Theyre going to have to work with the julie weve had a Pax Americana be since world war ii going all the way until today. I think i hope and i pray on this issue particularly, im not being sarcastic, i truly hope and pray that whatevers going on in the white house now, that donald trump is getting the lowdown from the current commander or in chief that what the russians are specifically capable of. I hope hes taking seriously, i hope he understands that despite the fact he hosted a Miss Universe contest in moscow, it doesnt mean the russians are good and have our interests at heart. Ive said mitt romney was right, the number one geopolitical threat to us is russia. Thats why iraq and iran have been empowered, syrias the mess that it is today, the world over. So if donald trump does not take seriously and ive said ive been critical of obama very much on his russian policy we have to take it seriously. We cannot give them a pass. We cannot forsake our friends in nato. We cannot forsake our western european allies to curry favor with the regime that is ideologically at war with us. Kennedy i saw you roll your eyes a little bit when charlie talked about the possibility of a Fox News Contributor and former u. S. Ambassador to the u. N. John bolton being secretary of state or having some role in national security, but, you know, ambassador bolton has been very tough in his talk julie he has. Kennedy about iran and russia specifically. So if donald trump surrounds himself with people who are much more on the hawkish side, does that temper your fearses . Julie i love john bolton on a personal level, hes one of the funniest people i know, but to me, john boltons a little too triggerhappy, and i think with trump talking about kicking, you know, certain body parts and bombing the hell and why cant we drop a Nuclear Weapon on these people, that terrifies me a little bit here. Sandra we have the shot still on the white house, and we know that president obama and donald trump are meeting behind closed doors in the white house having this discussion about the transition of power. Were just told that they are discussing domestic and Foreign Policy. As you can see, there is an enormous amount of press waiting for them to possibly make comments about that meeting and what was said. Obviously, this is a huge discussion that were having right now about foreign leaders weighing in on the donald Trump Presidency to be. What do you think . This is still going on right now. This is donald trump and president obama having a conversation right now. In the white house. Well, i think its interesting that its not described as a frank discussion which in diplomatic speak means that they must be having some sort of cordial, you know sandra exchange. Yeah. Theres actually talking going on. And i think thats great. And there is a lot. I mean sandra maybe hes getting a tour. [laughter] could be. Kennedy theres a lot of ground to cover here. [laughter] if you think about it, barack obama came in a relative neophyte. He certainly didnt have any executive experience. President elect trump has no political or government experience julie but obama had clearance. Kennedy which is fine. They both came into the job with very little background julie but obama, the difference is this obama did have clearance, right . As a senator, he obviously had security clearance. Weve never had a president before who has had neither governing experience, nor security experience of any kind ken South Carolina i think most people, especially those who voted for him, say thats great. Julie youre right. Kennedy fresh eyes. Julie i hope short of barack obama showing him his birth certificate [laughter] i hope what hes doing is telling him the facts of life that he probably couldnt have told anybody thats about to be the kennedy the roswell files, youre absolutely right julie we will finally know who killed kennedy. Lisa kennedys right, president obama came into the white house with virtually no experience. He never ran anything. He was, you know, an activist essentially throughout the majority of his life, so he came in with no experience. President obama president elect trump has a lot more experience as far as running things than president obama did. I do think Foreign Policys probably going to be his biggest learning curve, and that is when the hope comes in that he does utilize some of that business experience as far as delegating, as far as identifying the right people. And this is what he said before, he said this during his acceptance speech, one of his best qualities is identifying the untapped pebble in People Potential in people. Finding the right people, delegating to them, trusting those individuals and trusting their experiences. One of the most important things about a successful Foreign Policy and projecting strength is having your enemy or your opponents believe you will do anything. And thats a very good thing. And nobody believes president obama is going to do anything, and thats why everything is a disaster whether its in north africa or syria or iran. But there is and i get it, donald trump can be some of the things that he says can be very uncomfortable and unsettling, but thats not a bad thing. And i think its a very good thing for our enemies to think, oh, my gosh, this guy will do sandra all right, im going to jump in here because we are seconds away from hearing from president elect trump and president obama at the white house following their meeting there. Im going to toss to them in a second, as you can see, the press waiting for all words. What an important day, what an important meeting to hear from these two just really hours after he was elected. Lets listen. Had an excellent conversation with president elect trump. It was wideranging. We talked about some of the organizational issues in setting up a white house. We talked about Foreign Policy, we talked about domestic policy. And as i said last night, my number one priority in the coming two months is to try to facilitate a transition that insures our president elect is successful. And i had been very encouraged by the, i think, interest in president elect trumps wanting to work with my team around many of the issues that this great country faces. And i believe that it is important for all of us, regardless of party and regardless of political preferences, to now come together, Work Together to deal with the many challenges that we face. And in the meantime, michelle has had a chance to greet the incoming first lady, and we had an excellent conversation with her as well. And we want to make sure that they feel welcome as they prepare to make this transition. And most of all, i want to emphasize to you, mr. President elect, that we now are going to want to do everything we can to help you succeed, because if you succeed, then the country succeeds. Please. Well, thank you very much, president obama. This was a meeting that was going to last for maybe 10 or 15 minutes, and we were just going to get to know each other. We had never met each other. I have great respect. The meeting lasted for almost an hour and a half, and it couldnt have as far as im concerned, it could have gone on for a lot longer. We really, we discussed a lot of different situations, some wonderful and some difficulties. I very much look forward to dealing with the president in the future including counsel. Hes, he explained some of the difficulties, some of the highflying assets and some of the really great things that have been achieved. So, mr. President , it was a great honor being with you, and i look forward to being with you many, many more times in the future. Thank you, sir. [inaudible conversations] thank you, everybody were not, we are not going to be taking any questions. Thank you, guys. Thank you. [inaudible conversations] [laughter] come on, guys. Come on, guys, lets go sandra and that was president barack obama finishing up by joking with donald trump, giving him some advice. Thats what you do when they keep asking questions. [laughter] but president obama saying that he is there to facilitate a transition that assures the president elects success regardless of political preferences. President obama said this is a time to come together, and then you heard from donald trump. He said the meeting was an hour and a half, he wished it was longer. He said he looks forward to dealing with the president in the future, and it was a great honor to sit down with him. Is this what you were looking for, charlie hurt . Well, you know, as a more conservative person, its going to its not going to be a walk for conservatives. This is, you know, were going into uncharted waters. Donald trump is going to be, is going to negotiate, and its going to luckily, from my perspective, he has republicans hell be negotiating with, but he is going to want to get things done, and that can be kind of terrifying. Sandra what did you make of that exchange, lisa . Lisa i think its positive. This is what the country needs. Theres been so much division, and you especially look at the general election. So much hostility, so much anger, so much namecalling, so much divisiveness, and this is exactly what the country needs, i believe, is for the president to be respectful of donald trump and president elect donald trump to be respectful of the president. And i also think give kudos to hillary because i actually appreciated her concession speech, and i think she struck the right tones, and she was an adult about it. This is exactly what the country needs, is some healing. Sandra 15 minute meeting turned into 90 minutes, julie roginsky. Are you happy with what you just heard . Ewe jewell yeah. I think they both set the right tone. I hope that tone continues. Trump sounded a lot more president ial than i think weve heard, frankly, from either candidate during this election, so im hopeful the tone will continue. Charlie, what was interesting to me was it occurs to me that the most powerful people in washington right now besides, obviously, the president elect are people like john mccain, people like lindsey graham, because they can cut deals with Chuck Schumer on issues they dont necessarily agree with donald trump on and sway really the course of an election sorry, the course of legislation in ways that i think they might not have the freedom to do if they had had a mike pence, for example, as president or somebody whom they supported vociferously or somebody with whom they ideologically agreed. To me, john mccain, for example, just got a sixyear mandate. He really now has nothing to lose. Who knows . Sandra i want to bring kennedy in because that image up on the screen is really something. As we led off the show, president obama while on the campaign trail, labeled donald trump as someone who was unfit to be president , and donald trump promised to basically undo everything he has done while hes been in office, and there they sit with this transition of power. What did you make of the meeting . Kennedy no, its interesting. You realize the aura of the presidency is in itself transcendent. It is an office that very few people have held, and its a bond that the officeholders share, and i think theres a Mutual Respect there. They really havent had that much time to disagree since the election, which is fine, but its also, its really important because not only does it send a message to the world and to World Leaders that this is the United States of america, that there will be a smooth transition of power, that there is a Mutual Respect for the office and calming some of those fears and seeing that picture alone, i think, does a lot. It also sends a message to the protesters out there that, you know, this is going to be a new administration. And for half the country, you dont get the add martian that you want administration that you want, but it is still one country. Sandra they also talked about their lives, and fist Lady Michelle obama, they just said, was giving Melania Trump a walk around the white house and introducing her to the scene. Yeah. What does not surprise me about this is that, is to see donald trump behaving in this president ial way that ive never doubted that he was capable of. Hes got a lovely family, and, you know, i dont all of this, you know, people running around with their hair on fire, terrified that donald trump was going to destroy the presidency or destroy it was just ridiculous. Obviously. He is a, you know, he won. And hell be fine. Lisa well, and i think if youre donald trump, this must be a humbling imagine how humbling it must be to be president of the United States, just the magnitude of it all, the enormity of it all. And i think we saw that when he walked on the stage to give the acceptance speech. That is the most emotional we have ever seen donald trump, it looked almost as though he were going to cry. Having some of these conversations has to be a humbling experience with just the great amount of power that was just given to hum. Sandra and Something Else that donald trump, as he was finishing and closing his remarks, he said it was a great honor to sit down with the president , and he said i look forward to sitting down with him many, many more times in the future. What do you think he was saying there . I think he was saying that he intends to make this as, you know, as smooth as you can and do it, obviously, peacefully. And i think that they probably both realized that we may have trouble ahead with what weve seen the haas couple last night with the protests. But i think the Rolling Stones should get together [laughter] throw a free concert for all the protesters and just play you cant always get what you want. [laughter] kennedy so they can sit there and say who are these old guys . [laughter] republicans having of course. [laughter] republicans have been having to listen to that song for the last julie you know, you raise such a good point, and again as the liberal here, i have to say youre so right, you dont always get what you want, and these protesters should channel their frustration into Midterm Elections sandra wait, how does the lyric end . If you try sometimes, you might get what you need. [laughter] kennedy that was also one of the main themes in the princess and the frog. [laughter] great score by randy newman. I absolutely love it. And its very, very true. [laughter] and for all these college kids taking the day off to go cry in their little blank keys in their dorm rooms, suck it up [laughter] try being a libertarian. [laughter] whens the last time i was satisfied julie are you bummed about gary johnson . This must be a tough time for you. [laughter] kennedy come on, now. [laughter] he even set the kennedy what is, what is alend hoe, huh . Aleppo. He even brought the Marijuana Movement back. Kennedy no, he didnt. 20 of the country is now live anything a cloud of reefer smoke, and that is freedom, charlie. Julie thats how every millennials getting through the outcome lisa they need to have it at College Universities sandra oh, dont get us started. Thank, lisa. Well, its going to be a busy day for donald trump. Hes going to be on his way to capitol hill in a few moments. Youre looking at a video of him just meeting with the president. They did make some comments, and it was talking about the transition of power. They were both honored to meet with each other, shaking hands. You see the picture there. But such a huge moment, and i feel like going to julie on this you didnt predict this julie no. I was so wrong. Thanks for pointing that that out. [laughter] let me reiterate again how wrong i was. I had to go buy josh a really expensive bottle of scotch yet kennedy i had to pay Gavin Mcginnis 100 tonight. Julie i did too. [laughter] kennedy gavins going to be rich, and he doesnt have to eat the 100 bill julie anyway, what was your question . Sandra watching the the video as we discuss this, because we are going to look for donald trump to leave the white house. But i guess my question is what do you make of this moment . And im talking about them meeting today and meeting at the white house and discussing that transition. Is this a turning point for those who just have not been happy in the last day or so . Julie no, because theyre not going to be happy with his policies once he starts enacting them. But i do want to say this is the best example of why this is the greatest country in the world. Where else in the world well, probably in western europe, so i shouldnt say were the only country, but this is a shining beacon. Where else do you have two people in two parties that went after each other in the most ideal, horrible terms, but nobodys delegitimizing the outcome of this election. You have an about to be former president , incoming president sitting down from different Political Parties to talk about the transition of power and a peaceful transition of power. Kennedy, you nailed it when you said that earlier. This is what makes this country great. For the all the people on my side of the aisle who are devastated, as i am, about the outcome of this election, channel your energy into having a different outcome four years from now, but do not delegitimize the man who just got elected sandra i want to get this in because, lets see, who is this coming from . One of our producers at the white house saying donald trump ended those comments because the microphones went down, ended those comments with the president saying very good man at the end when the press was shouting questions. Important to get that in there. And now we know that the president elect, donald trump, is heading to capitol hill. Hell be having lunch with Speaker Paul Ryan kennedy little late for that. 12 30 lunch. [laughter] i hope the catfish hasnt gotten cold. Lisa theyre going to be starving. Sandra what a moment though. Charlie hurt, last words to you. I think that meeting set the tone. I think people are going to be a lot more satisfied with all this than they thought. Sandra thank you very much, charlie hurt, for being here. Thank you for having me. Sandra were back tomorrow at noon eastern. What a day happening now starts right now. And now partners in transition. A much longer meeting than expected the meeting wrapping up at 12 30 and mr. Trump telling reporters it lasted longer than expected. They had a lot to talk about. They discussed foreign and domestic policy and the president elect locks forward to more meetings. Mr. Trump arrived out of sight this morning and he and mike pence were scheduled to have lunch at