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Lets do it. David breaking news included. Melissa the shutdown now in its third week. President Trump Holding the line in his push for over 5,000 in border wall funding. Democrats are meeting steadfast in their opposition. Vice president of mike pence leading talks over the weekend as negotiations drag on. President trump yesterday warning that he could declare a National Emergency to get border wall funding if democrats dont budge. Watch. We have a crisis at the border of drugs, of human beings being traffic all over the world. Theyre coming through. We have an absolute crisis. The criminals and gang members coming through. It is National Security. Its a National Emergency. Melissa the president also now pushing a steel barrier, not concrete. In an apparent concession to democrats. Listen to this. They dont like concrete, so we will give them steel. Steel is fine, its actually more expensive than concrete but it will look beautiful and its very strong. Its actually stronger. Melissa its beautiful. Democrats like senator jeff berkley sang the material used is not the issue. It doesnt matter at all. Putting up a 30foot wall of whatever material its made of, it doesnt make a difference. We know from the experts we know the costeffective ways to provide Border Security. Lets spend the citizens money in a smart fashion, not with some fourth century basically pointless strategy. Melissa in the meantime, House Minority whip Steve Schooley says democrats need to be willing to compromise. The president is showing he is willing to sit down and talk and try and reach an agreement. Our teams have been meeting for the weekend to try and find some common ground. If they really want to work with us to get the Government Back open again, they have also get to recognize that Border Security is at the heart of thi this. Melissa moments ago, Sarah Sanders treating that President Trump will travel to the southern border on thursday to meet with those on the front lines of National Security and the humanitarian crisis. More details will be announced soon. David, this has gone to be very petty place. It seems like the president has yielded a bunch. He is now saying that steel fence which is what we have been a lot of places david the money has come up a little bit. Melissa not from the 25 billion. David 5. 7 billion instead of that. Hes not going to be make a den daca like he seemed to be eight months ago. You are right, it is totally silly. People will look back and say. 06 of the budget was being discussed. A border wall that everybody on the border, all those Border Patrol agents that we saw last week, where the president says it does help. I would rather believe them van nancy pelosi, who compares it to a beaded curtain. Which is kind of ridiculous. It is a silly debate. On the other hand, there are serious issues that are being discussed right now. When you think of the lives of the Border Patrol i just went through a list of the agents who lost their lives in the line of duty. There is a very long list of very brief people who stood the line, and those are the people who are now saying a wall whatever you want to call it as you said, steel, whatever it is. A physical barrier that prevents people from making the trip from central america, mexico, to our border. That makes a difference. I believe those people on the line. Harris a couple of things i wonder how different this conversation would be going down right now, may be without a shut down, had mexico been able to pay for any portion of this wall through a nafta agreement or whatever. Heres the issue if that were the case, it would not be a pingpong ball with democrats. While they dont, capri, typically when on this issue, certainly the optics of this president going down to the border to assess a humanitarian crisis which, by the way, puts it in that bubble where he can say by executive fiat, im going to fix this. Thats how we got daca. We can go right back down that road again. Its not a winner for democrats. 25 billion is what melissa had suggested on the couch last week. That is the resources into a funnel, and however you want to disperse them according to the experts coming out. Democrats and republicans missed that deal. Capri they did, in 2017. Part of that is because a lot of republicans in the United States senate basically said we see this as basically giving into an amnesty program. It failed because her republicans didnt vote for it. That aside, democrats have some challenges here. As President Trump has pointed out, time and time again, everyone from Chuck Schumer Taylor Clinton to barack obama has previously supported some kind of barrier and wall previo. One thing we need to take a quick look at, which i notice when trump talked about democrats and steel versus concrete i come from steel country, as i like to remind folks. This may actually be a covert bargaining chip for democrats, to say we want this to be made in america. We want a prevailing wage. We want them to build a wall. There is probably not enough members from that part of the country to carry the day. Melissa thats a great question. Kennedy, if you drill down on some of those details you are saying there would be 234 miles of steel barrier. It works out to, someone gave i think it was on npr, they were saying is 24 million a mile. But if youre doing that, if its a feeder into steel country, you have the lending masts that have been chopped up and made into fence. People are cutting into those. That needs to be fixed. I dont know how you say this, that doesnt you arent going to put the same thing there. What do you think . Kennedy i would like to see some cad drawings right now. [laughter] david me, too. Kennedy its strangely specific. Both sides are forcing this absurd destruction discussion. Its uncomfortable for both parties. Democrats like to talk about immigration in a way that makes them sound very kind and humanitarian, but they know that a lot of their voters will say one thing but vote in another way entirely. It tends to be a very personal nimby issue, as we talked about on the couch. They have to figure out how to seal the holes in the upper part of an immigration policy. Which is, you know, overstayed visas. And the way that narco terrorists get drugs into the country, means that are completely illegitimate, like ports of entry. When republicans can figure that out, democrats can get back to talking about him immigration. We are not that far off but they dont want to come together. The closer they get to being simpatico, the more you hear about things like construction materials. Capri in the meantime, everify is on the rocks due to the shutdown, apparently. Harris there are some issues with everify, too. Kennedy the steel, and an american [laughter] makes it even more difficult. Harris if this benefits, it seems to me, the people on the fringes of both political parties. David it does, but compromises on the other side of that. Its a people who harris they arent interested in compromise. David at this point they are not, but ive got to tell you capri has hit upon something. I will be surprised if you get phone calls later in the day from democrats and republicans. One thing you suggested capri we will take the jobs come on man my neck of the woods is ready. David one thing her idea plays into is one thing that we thought trump and democrats could compromise on, infrastructure. If this could be put in the realm of infrastructure melissa thats a great idea. David as opposed to the realm of Border Security harris why is it that we can come up with ideas here among the five of us, yet all of those 500 plus in the melissa let me tell you the answer, because they are busy tweeting stuff like this. This is senator chris van hollen, democrat from maryland. He says send it democrats should block consideration of any bills unrelated to opening the government until senator Mitch Mcconnell and republicans allowed to vote on the bipartisan bills the house passed joe from the government. Mitch, dont delay. Lets vote in other words, david, they are playing games answering molotov cocktails or spitballs. Wads of gum. David doesnt all this verify the public disdain for congress . The latest Approval Rating is under 10 . Oh, its 18 . They are doing better than they had been. Its probably going to go down to Single Digits again. I know that their salaries are not the issue in terms of the budget deficit and everything, but for salaries alone, we should demand more of these people. Because they are not interested in resolving it. They are just interested in scoring political points. Harris i would say, about the process of paying for it it does matter. People did vote based on the fact that it wasnt going to take american tax dollars to do this, although there is fundraising beck is going on. Crowd funding for the wall. Clearly people are serious about this. If you get the number so small, like Vice President pence a few weeks ago suggested 2. 5 billion instead. If you get it so small that you cant do anything except for restore some of those forest areas rather than building fence line or flats or whatever, have you accomplished anything . Capri my question, and my biggest concern i dont knowf youve done a remodel on your house, but when you run out of money, you cant live in a house half builds. You cant live without a roof. Im going to shut down the government every time the president needs 5 billion more dollars for another stage of this . Harris its not just the president. Chuck schumer shut down the government a year ago. Over sticky issues. Daca. Its cap located. Melissa we didnt solve it, but, you know former Vice President joe bidens apparently nearing a decision on whether you were one for president 2020. What he is reportedly saying about his potential democratic rivals, and what that suggests about his intention. Plus, the freshman democrat who made a profanitylaced call for the president s impeachment not backing down despite cards from democrats and republicans alike. What she is saying now, and whether democrats have a risk in the party as the white house hits back. If they want to use impeachment as their political maneuver, they can go and try. Let me tell you something, they will lose. When cravings hit, hit back. 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Members of congress have a foreign duty to preserve our constitution, leaving a lawless president in office for political points would be aband the top House Democrats he defended. Majority leaders called impeachment talk a distraction, and says that he and nancy pelosi are in full agreement on it. Watch. We will have to stay with them Mueller Report says. Nancy and i have both said that. We will him that we on the floor at the house of representatives. What we want to do is concentrate on our harris the white house apparently not concerned. Democrats want to keep their impeachment talk, where we know there is no pollution. We have been transparent and cooperative in the process. But that is a losing strategy for them. The American People want the democrats, their president , the republicans to Work Together to solve problems for our nation. Thats what the president has focused on every day. Harris there are a couple lanes we can go down. Lets stick with the impeachment lane for us, talk language later. On what grounds would democrats plan to impeach this president . We dont have the results of the Mueller Investigation yet. Where is tlaib going . Capri youre looking at me like harris you are the resident democrat leadership in the state of ohio capri we have to remember that this is nothing new. Brad sherman, even in the last congress, he put out articles of impeachment. There is all kinds of theory here, but i think that because nancy pelosi and steny hoyer have the experience, they recognize that its necessary not only from a pragmatic standpoint but a political standpoint as well to wait for the results of the Mueller Investigation to identify whether or not there is something tangible there to go down this road. Impeachment is incredibly serious. We unfortunately have gone to a point, not only in my party but in the media and across the country, throwing around impeachment as if its some kind of game. Its not. It is serious business. Frankly, the everything people need to remember is that impeachment does not guarantee removal of the president either. Everybody needs to harris a political answer to whats going on. Which is why i think, david, they dont want to necessarily wait for evidence because it may work against our cost potentially. We dont know. We dont know what Robert Mueller has. David President Trump gets a lot of flak for getting things wrong, but the impeach crowd in the Democratic Party get a fundamental thing wrong you dont convict somebody because you disagree with their politics. Its that simple. You have to wait for the process to play itself out. I think that a slick Speaker Pelosi is doing, thats what steny hoyer is doing. I hate to use the old phrase, but the grownups in the party the people who are in there long enough to understand the process i dont think its enough just to do that. I think they really need to gather together. They probably will, its early on in this congress. To gather together these younger folks, these newbies, and say hey, look at, folks you have to realize we have a system here. Melissa s such as the newbies. Here adam schiff talking about it, when you say he reveals that they want to remove him because they dont like him as president. Thats not our system works. You dont just get to pull somebody up because you dont like them. Folks are going to be really disappointed let down. I would hearken everybody back to chasing both of the clintons for so long with someone investigation, and getting people who hated them their hopes up. And then dashed. Harris it hurts republicans put glue. We heard what you called some of the grownups in the room. Kennedy, thats not necessarily what representative tlaib is talking about. Shes not talking about that she just doesnt like it. She called him a bully. Technically, i guess you can impeach over anything. Kennedy i think this therea pretty clear threshold the constitution. Harris there should be. Kennedy in that oped she was talking about the framers and their vision. David she said he was lawless. Kennedy that he has an unequal view of the law, and the protection therein. Then again, she is talking about acting before she has gotten all the information, which is irresponsible as a lawmaker. She is not just an operative. Or a Community Organizer or someone else who is talking to people within her community. She is talking she is someone who can affect change and affect peoples lives. Shes out of the one of those avocado toast democrats. Capri i hit avocado toast [laughter] kennedy what she is trying to do this harris im allergic to avocado. Melissa its terrible. Kennedy its possible without doing any work. Capri thats where things like that clause, people look to that as look, the trump hotel is there. Maybe people from a government n government. Kennedy impeachment is incredibly serious. Its a difference between setting your dog to training versus euthanizing it. For some behavioral problems. David and it can backfire. As we saw with president clinto president clinton. Kennedy they remember how it did backfire. Be harris before move on i want to come back to you and democrats. At the end of the day, it comes down to what they want to a compass for American People. If pushing this president into a political corner through impeachment is their idea, is steny hoyer right . Is it a complete destruction, does it serve any purpose . Capri it doesnt. These democrats were elected because of things like the concern over health care, for example. At the end of the day we have to remember, in 2020, if the House Democrats or impeachment process becomes a foil of President Trump, it will backfire in Middle America and you still need those Electoral College votes to get there. So we have to be very careful. Its a distraction. Kennedy there was a bill to get rid of the Electoral College. In the meantime, a federal judge has extended the federal grand jury that Robert Mueller post risk team has been using up to an additional six months. The chief federal judge in washington, d. C. , granting the extension, signaling the probe will continue for several more months. The new House Intel Committee chair, adam schiff, says he wants to work with mueller to determine if any witnesses who testify before the panel have committed perjury. Watch. We hope, as one of our first acts, to make the transcripts of our witnesses fully available to special counsel for any purpose, including the bringing of perjury charges if necessary against any of the witnesses. There is no reason to protect these witnesses. There is every reason to validate Congress Interest in not having people come before it and lied. Kennedy what is schiff going for here . What is his ultimate goal . David i think his ultimate goal is to give mueller evidence that he thinks proves that the president did something wrong, but they could use to impeach. Andy mccarthy made a broader point about whats going on here over the weekend, with our friend neil cavuto. He said its the way this Mueller Investigation was set up thats wrong. Most other, in fact, all others have been set up to validate a crime. This was set up to investigate something that was not a crime. There was not a specific crime. Its a counterintelligence investigation, and those things can go on forever. Thats whats happening. They are layering investigation on investigation, because there is not a specific crime they are aiming toward. There is this counterintelligence investigation which is so broad that it could never end. Kennedy do think thats why democrats are saying lets not wait for the mueller account of the entire investigation. Instead, lets act. Because the president is essentially untoward. And now schiff is trying to aid mueller, but canty get that testimony . Melissa first of all, congressman they came on the last hour and said they are willing to give everything over, that was always available. It seems to me as more of a bizarre talking point. Yes, you can have whatever we have. You can always have whatever we have. Thats kind of where it was. He said they did. They have and they are always happy to turn over. Eddie mccarthys point is about because originally they were looking for collusion which come as we said, wasnt a crime. Regardless, if thats what youre looking at. Then they had to move it onto Something Else because that wasnt there. Its sort of an investigation and search of a crime, which could go on forever. As long as they cant fight a crime, they can keep looking for one i keep fanning out. Thats what makes it endless. Maybe democrats are something that so they want to jump in. I think the ones that are saying lets wait and see what the investigation finds no, its never going to end. It can keep going forever. Kennedy the bar is pretty low in terms of what people can be charged with, and that can be pinned to the tale of whoever the president is at the time. If the bar is lowered, does not mean that mueller is well within his purview to go after some of the people on the democratic side, including the dnc and the law firm that was paying dirty, filthy russians . Capri i have always said this the law needs to be applied consistently regardless of party. If there are potential wrongdoings with the dnc or kennedy you think mueller is looking into that even though we havent heard . Capri i have no idea. You never know, maybe that is the case. The Mueller Investigation seems to be pretty tight as far as leaks are concerned. We usually dont know until things come out. Maybe they are looking at that. I hope, again, if there are concerns, that they need to be equitably looked at. I think we also need to remember, too what adam schiff is saying, i think, is that if there are concerns about other people who testified in front of the intelligence committee, this is about who has perjured themselves potentially in front of the committee. Which is a crime. That doesnt mean the president of the United States committed a crime, it means individual xyz you perjured themselves but then the question is, why did they lie . Thats what they are trying to get. They are trying to bootstrap to who live, why did they lie, and that they covering up solving the present did . David you also think of the Trump Organization before he can present, how far back milliken go is undetermined. We dont know how far back. A couple of these people, like Michael Cohen and everything. Youre going to say in the whole history of the Trump Organization that they havent dealt with other that is fair game, i guess. He believes for his investigation to go into it. Kennedy isnt the goal to have a longer list on those ads in 2020, for whomever the democratic nominee is . Along with the people who have been indicted . Isnt that what schiff is trying to do, links and that list and the guilt by association . Harris you are asking me to look at the political realm. I want to look at the actual evidentiary realm. If you dont know what mueller has my goodness, we can probably say that 20 times a show, here but one thing you hit on, capri, that caught my ear as those three lanes you talked about for those investigations going. Im still pressing to find out, would they ever consider letting this president sit down with mueller . And is that what mueller is waiting for . I was reading about legal extensions just over the weekend, which would take this far beyond march. Now we are well into 2019 and into june. Politically speaking, adam schiff can look forward to that or not. 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Melissa former Vice President joe biden is reportedly in the final stages of deciding whether to run for president. The New York Times reports that mr. Biden has told allies that he sees himself as the democrats best hope of defeating President Trump in 2020, and is skeptical about anyone elses chances. The times writes that anonymous democrats spoke to mr. Biden and said he told them if you could persuade me there is somebody better who could win, i am happy not to do it. But i dont see the candidate who could clearly do that. It has to be done could kobe do it has to be done to win. David asman, last year i watched him come out from a different studio. He was giving a speech and it sounded like he was going to change his mind in the middle. We could tell he wasnt running. Then he switched to does she sound like he was going to say he was. I think he does david thats whats very engaging about him. You never know what hes going to say next. I dont think he knows what hes going to say next and his gaps are just wonderful. They give us a field day. There would be so much this is my favorite. He said into thousand 12 i never had an interest being an american because thats a real job you have to produce per thats why i was able to be a senator for 36 years. [laughter] melissa thats true david capri and i were talking over the break that there are a lot of republicans who could vote for this guide. Harris why you do say that . David he has appealed to the great middle. This is a guy who voted strong on criminal justice, he voted for the iraq war in 2002. David hes an old school democrat. One that allowed people in the middle of the country still understand, that he can connect with. He does face a little bit of an uphill battle, because he has run for president in number of times since 1988. Theres no question that he is and could of the experience. I think is really good at connecting with people. I think hes authentic, which is something that Haley Clinton obviously missed the mark on but a great stretch. I think its going to be hard for him, because it will be a crowded field and i think in the absence of superdelegates, which have been eliminated out of the democratic national, the established democrat is not goi. Its going to be hard for them. Kennedy i have some breaking news on the anonymous democrats. Melissa i have no doubt. When you heard david describing them, and you heard the thinks capri said, he is very trumpian. When you talk about somebody who can appeal to the middle. The same kind of clout, the gasps. Kennedy the debate is very entertaining, if nothing else. Two people who like to change on the fly. Theyre not worried about offending people. I want to put the idea about his age to bed a little bit. If someone expresses energy and creativity and enthusiasm, i dont care what the number is. If someone really has the tenacity to protect the country in the way that is necessary, especially from democrats who tend to be strangely hawkish out sometimes and very inconsistent on foreign policy, joe biden has been accused of that, but you would much rather see somebody like that who actually has experience. I think of beto orourke, being woken up in the middle of the night with an emergency in regards to north korea. Or syria, or turkey. What the hell is he going to do and say . I think there are people like kim jong un who are just waiting so excitedly like beto orourke, because they know it would be more than another person to push around. Harris one thing that has been talked about is maybe by thenbeto. Capri i think shared brown beto orourke. David i like bidencafaro. [laughter] harris she would never be on the bottom of that ticket he could not be elected against ted cruz. Capri thats right. Just because he came close and a red state doesnt mean it will carry the day. 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Harris white house National Security advisor john bolton there, he was in jerusalem yesterday laying out conditions for the troop withdrawal from syria. President trump has recently announced that, including the defeat of the remnants of isis. Turkey assuring the safety of kurdish fighters who are u. S. Allies but whom the turks see as links to terrorists in their country. This is a u. S. Official telling fox news that bolton is intricate to talk syria with officials there. The pullout has drawn criticism from some lawmakers encouraging republican Mac Thornberry of the House Armed Services committee. Watch. Yes, i think it was a mistake. It worried our allies. It encouraged our enemies. I think the administration now is trying to backtrack from a blanket withdrawal, and trying to mitigate the sum of the adverse consequences. Harris wow. The New York Times reporting that bolton has been working behind the scenes to so that withdrawal. President trump has pushed back in the street. The feeling New York Times has knowingly written a very inaccurate story on my intentions in syria. No different from my initial statements, we are leaving at a proper pace while at the same time consuming to fight isis and doing all else that is prudent and necessary. I want to delve into that a little bit. The president said we had defeated isis there. I have two questions. One, two british soldiers died just over the weekend, killed by isis. They arent defeated, obviously. Then you have bolton saying that when we defeat them these are going to be the conditions of us moving out. Thats one of them. Clearly, either the president was wrong about that or what . A david im glad that john bolton is there, first of all. He clearly has differing views than the president does. Harris what are the facts . Have we defeated them or not . David we have not completely defeated them. The one that matters. Should we be leaving . David it does. But we have deprived them of their home bases which, as general kelley and other people a lot smarter on these issues then we will tell you, its key to defeating an organization like isis. I should also mention that the general would criticize the president about stress early remarks, and say that we do need to keep special forces there. I know that look, the United States has a nasty habit. We have seen it over decades. Supporting a group that fights for us, and just as we think that group has succeeded, they are surrounded by their enemies and destroyed. And we pull out. Capri are you talking about the tele band and afghanistan . Kennedy and north vietnam, exactly. David i dont want to see repeated. No matter what we think about john bolton, the kurds right now are thinking god that hes life. Kennedy and theres a difference between John Bolton Mike pompeo. I think you are seeing Good Cop Bad Cop in terms of our former policy and National Security. In the way these to deliver the president s message. I also think that john bolton has gotten pretty good at convincing the president of his worldview. There are some libertyminded people who might take issue with that, but the point is that john bolton is very clear on how he sees the lines in the world. He doesnt want to see somebody like president air to affecting our policy by any measure. Harris i want to ask you about what Mac Thornberry said about the backtrack at this point. Is that whats going on . Melissa i dont see it that way as much as expressing an opinion, wanting to follow policy. Maybe folks follow up with him afterwards. Harris but he didnt say its based on opinion. Melissa is not that they are defeated or not to defeated, is this idea they have to say present and ready to intervene if the problem comes back. If you stay present in an area to make sure the outcome that has been achieved through so many lives continues to stay in place. Harris why do we seem to think that the Islamic State savages that have ravaged 14 countries plus would not come back to syria . Who would think that . They are scorpions. David not only that, but there is significant information as some cai guys have told me that in fact turkey was involved in buying isis oil. Remember when they had oilfield oilfields . Arity 1 his son was in the oil business. There are rumors. Capri protecting them when they are saying the kurds are terrorists. Harris and they got our journalist, because shoji, when he was on their soil. These are questions that i have because i honestly think that, at this point, there is an opportunity with the door opening considering other options. Remember, week or so ago, we talked about people leaving administration because they were upset. Capri turkey is a nato member nation. They dont belong there. David the president is open to discussion. Thats clear. John bolton would not be harris it might be an opportunity. 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[spokesman] custom ink has hundreds of products for your business and free shipping. Upload your logo or start your design today melissa more outnumbered and just a moment, but we are going to catch up with harris and see whats coming up on outnumbered overtime in a few minutes. Harris heres what im working on in the next hour. The partial Government Shutdown has entered its new week with no end in sight, as we know. Where it is the negotiation stand . Assure the president make a goodfaith effort on his threat to declare a state of emergency at the border to get his wall built . Will the standoff rally his base, or could it backfire . A republican of the House Financial Services committee will be on deck with me. Plus, two new Democratic Committee chair is about to ramp up investigations of President Trump and his allies. Is it just the beginning . Judge Andrew Napolitano on more, and we had some breaking to velvets from his attorney. The president s, really giuliana, about people work in the investigation with the mueller probe. Well talk about that now. Top of their work, melissa. Melissa that was a good tease, thanks, harris. Kennedy love it. Lets take a look at the dow. Big board, check it out. Nice numbers, up 188 right now. Just over 23. 6. Meanwhile, the u. S. And china making a new round of trade talks today and beijing. Their first facetoface meeting since President Trump and chinese president xi jinping agreed to a 90 day truce in their trade war of the summit last month in argentina pray the president sounded confident outside the white house yesterday. Watch. The china talks are going very well. I spoke to president xi recently. I really believe they want to make a deal, the tariffs have absolutely hurt china very badly. I think it gives them a great incentive to negotiation. Kennedy let me ask you that, david asman. Does it give them an incentive . We heard apple talk about softening sales and we know the economy has been going south and china. What does that do for the president s position . David it strengthens it enormously pray there is article after article about how every, by any measure, chinas economy slowing down. It may be negative. The Chinese Statistics of the kind you would expect from a communist government. They are completely manipulated. You cant trust them. What you can trust, when their Companies Say they are people that are not buying what they used to buy, people are storing their cash. They are its a great worry about president xi, made a big political power grab. There are a lot of people who are looking at him and saying look, unless you can fix the economy, we will give you free reign to take as much power for your whole life as he thought he might be able to take. If the economy is not doing well. He has a political as well as economic incentive for getting a deal. Melissa people are saying there is a real fundamental shift happening here. David, im sure youve heard this, with Company Stock about their china plus one options. It has already been already, its got more expensive. And the tradeoff wasnt as good as it was before. Now, after all this, would people have companies being forced to make other plans, the question is do they go back . There are plenty of places where there is a lot of cheap labor. In the long run, the rest of the world recovers. But i wonder if china is seeing how much damage can be permanen permanent. Kennedy they cant bring down the Global Economy though. They are downturned right now. Capri it such a huge volume, you are dealing with billions of people. They are Huge Consumer as well is a huge producer. If the chinese economy goes down, it could bring others with it. I think you bring up a very good point, though, that if its not advantageous for multinational corporations to invest and make products there, to create jobs in china, thats going to have a detrimental impact. David something quick about whats happening the markets a lot of people are afraid, they asked me if they should sell the stocks. Dont do it dont do it now. Theres nothing on the horizon now that is any worse than anything we havent already encountered. We managed our way through. Im thinking into this innate in 2009, as terrible as it was, we manage through. People kept their money in the market and they are happy they did. Kennedy youve got a couple months left on the stride were, then he dated to say. Will they figure out . Theres a meeting in switzerland, the president is going into beaks. Enough Chinese People will be there. Kennedy there you go chew on that, deb. Giving everyone a boost. More outnumbered in just a moment. Stay put. Alright, i brought in ensure max protein. 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We will be hearing about impingement for the next two years. What you think the president fix of that . David i think its bring it on. We have seen from this president , like no other president in my lifetime, he appreciates attacks and turns them around on his enemies quickly. He seems to be fine with these attacks. Melissa to fire up his base, to work on other things. David and to use that as a subterfuge for getting things done. Melissa we are back at noon eastern tomorrow. Heres harris. Harris fox news alert, well into the Government Shutdown at this point. Day 17 pray the white house and sing the president will head to the southern border later this week, and that he has made it ct its a National Emergency to build the border wall. Lets go to outnumbered overtime now. Im harris faulkner. The partial Government Shutdown heading into its third week. The republicans and democrats fighting over Border Security. Admits region officials and staffers met over the weekend but failed to make progress. The white house announced that president will go to the southern border on thursday to meet with those in the front lines of what they say is a national secured a crisis. Meanwhile, the president s warning he did take matters into