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Some of the injuries are serious. Chief of Department Terence monahan found himself in the middle of all this. Watch. An individual, campbell, takes a mop handle. He gets on top of the lieutenant and starts just punching the heck out of him. Im talking haymakers, rights and lefts, into his face, breaking his orbital bone. I was able to reach over the fence and grab the men pull it back. Thats when he turns around on me and started throwing punches at me. Harris that violence came after bill de blasio signed into law a reform package which includes a ban on police choke holds. This outnumbered. Im harris faulkner. Here is melissa francis. Host of kennedy on fox business, kennedy. Syndicated radio host and fox news contributor, Leslie Marshall. In the center seat on average all are virtual couch, pete hegseth we try to find those moments i can take us for their Dominic Dominic forward but right now where we are is particularly tough. Pete speaking of events that are meant to take us forward, i recall that the nypd chief, terence monahan, was one of the officers that kneeled with protesters weeks ago. What did that get him . Who did that bring together to make ultimately he is attacked like anyone else. Hes wearing white because hes a highranking officer, but like anyone else in blue, attacked simply for the badge they wear and what they represent. This isnt going to stop. It started in minneapolis on mae third precinct. It emboldened rioters and illegal activity across the country. Youve got kids in government schools being taught that american Dominic America is a racist nation founded in 1619 and they can do anything they want to topple the country of america. People have the most immediate symbol of that because of the authority being wheeled to maintain rule of law and justice. They are emboldened because as a major candidate and joe biden he was unwilling to take the mob on and is not willing to have the backs of the police. They believe, should they have an advantage in november, that a new administration would unleash this type of behavior and allow it even further in the years to come. There is an oil right now of inevitability and sort of a blanket of security they feel they have, because Law Enforcement officers hands are tied, politics is messy right now, and joe biden would open the floodgates for even more. Harris for a response to that, Leslie Marshall . Leslie i disagree. Joe biden has been adamant that he is not in favor of defunding the police, and anybody who thinks that if you let joe biden or any democrat into the white house, that you have every democrat in the house and the senate that is going to agree to this type of violence is delusional. That is not what the democrats want, thats not what people on the left want. Quite frankly, thats not what the overwhelming majority of protesters want in new york or nationwide. What we saw happen on that bridge and what weve seen happen in other parts of the country are inexcusable. The violence against another individual, including Police Officers, is inexcusable. With the protesters were fighting for in new york and elsewhere is Racial Justice and to weed out bad Police Officers. Police officers that arent following the rule of law which is why the mary new york signed the legislation banning the choke hold and the stranglehold. Heres the problem with that, i want to point this out. Here in los angeles, we have had, since the 80s, a ban on choke hold. In new york its been since november of 93. It hasnt been effective because there has been lax enforcement. If that goes forward, the legislation doesnt matter. Harris i just want to followup with you real quickly, leslie, because you seem to have a beat on with the protesters are fighting for. Thats been a big question. Because they are not unified group. The organizational black lives matter does not necessarily speak to everybody in the streets in terms of one voice, one protester, one america. You have come across this information how, and are you certain thats what they want . Leslie first of all, here in los angeles, in santa monica, at the very beginning i was there among protesters. Secondly, my radio show, which is on weekdays, there are people that are calling in throughout the country as to what they protest. On other leaders of organizations. Black lives matter is an example, who ive interviewed on my show. The majority people, if you talk to them and look at the polling in this country harris a majority. Leslie they are on the same page. It is this minority of individuals that have infiltrated these groups and that are seeking to be violent dance, it seems, almost everyone. Especially the police. Quite frankly, they are making this mission and this cry for Racial Justice not front page news but the middle of the page. What happens on the front page . The violence we see. Thats complete contrary to what the protesters and americans wanted in the first place. Harris kennedy, before i come to you, i want to follow the watch. The nypd commissioner on the police who were attacked on the Brooklyn Bridge. Lets take a listen to that and well come back out. It was outrageous. Attacking chief terry monahan, a fourstar chief in uniform, is not only an attack on the police, its an attack on all of us. It just shows you what these antifa and black lives Matter Movement people are all about. Its not about peaceful protests. In fact, what they were doing, they were trying to interfere with a peaceful protest. The dome xp when they seems to be a different slice and we know this because theyre americans. Not every bay talks and thinks the same. Leslie has talked to people on the radio show, she was amid the protesters. Ill be months ago, now. A couple of months ago. Things are changing rapidly. Listening to the street and wanting to know how you address their concerns is difficult right now. Kennedy yes, its incredibly difficult. Actually, the impetus of the protest came from a good place. There are a lot of people with good intentions from various groups who realize that new york city is devolving into a very violent, unruly hell ho hole. You have different groups, proLaw Enforcement, veterans for social justice, and various faith organizations really trying to come together peacefully, and they had a message and a list of things they want to work on collectively. Then you have people who are just violent. I dont consider a guy with a bat beating the crap out of a cop someone who necessarily has a political philosophy. I think that if someone just taking advantage of chaos and taking out his anger in an unacceptable way. In a civil society, violence is never the answer. There are people who are upset because they feel Like Police Officers can be violent with no recourse, and there are other people who are trying to take advantage of that and hurt indiscriminately. What they are ultimately doing is hurting a Peaceful Movement and making sure that there is no reform in the future. Harris meanwhile, federal officers in portland, oregon, once again used tear gas to Disperse Protesters who are trying to set up camp across the street from the federal courthouse. Some demonstrators put up tents in a park near the courthouse and have barricaded streets to create their own autonomous area, like the c. H. O. P. Zone police dismantled in seattle. The president plans to make a News Conference about the response of the chaos he is seeing in democrat led cities. Watch. We have other cities that are out of control. They are like war zones. If the city isnt going to straighten it out, if local politicians or, in this case i dont say this for political reasons, they are all democrats. They are liberal, left wing democrats. Harris you know, melissa, we have seen this before in new york. The occupation within the borders of the united states. They call themselves occupy wall street a few years ago and it spread from there. They were all over, including right out on the plaza at fox news. Now we dont even talk about them anymore. If the people protesting her looking and saying, this is how we force change, i dont know that it works if you just look at the history. Melissa i dont know. Im eager to see what the president says, and what he is going to do about it. From my point of view, its either that or we need mayors like bill de blasio to immediately resign and leave office. This is what he was treating yesterday. We see these pictures on the screen of whats going on in portland, but you also look at the pictures that we saw in new york city. My kids cant even bear to look at the television, to see the blood all over those Police Officers. This is what he was tweeting. A new era of Public Safety in new york city is here. Isnt that bone chilling . This is our new era of Public Safety. Police getting beaten on the Brooklyn Bridge. He says, its time to fulfill our commitment to progress and continue moving forward. This is moving forward . Are you kidding me . He has to go. If he does not step down, i look forward to seeing what the president has to say next week that is going to help those of us living in these cities that are in a free fall. Harris you know, pete, when you look at the politics of all of this, youve already had a democratic governor in andrew cuomo call for or at least say he would like to see the displacement, and i dont even know if thats a legal term or what he can do. Governor huckabee and i talked about this yesterday. State statutes are different. But cuomo looking at, how do you get de blasio out of there . It wasnt even where we are now. This is weeks ago, having more to do with the pandemic and a little bit about what we are seeing now. If this is truly going to morph and turn and become political, those other Democratic Leaders across the country have got to be looking at new york and saying, oh, no, we have to do something so we dont go there, too. Or is it maybe only a couple of cities . Its more than a couple of cities. The National Democratic party has been catering to the far left fringes for a long time. Look at the platform of joe biden. I take great issue with what Leslie Marshall said about police. This is an antipolice movement. Ive been in riots, too. I was on the other side of the right shield in washington, d. C. To hear the vile things protesters, protesters, were saying to black soldiers, black police, dehumanizing things, these are about hatred of other people because they wear a badge that represents law and order in this country. You want to have a discussion about policing . You can have it. Its a whole nother thing to call them protesters. Look at this zone in portland. Its illegal to block traffic. Its illegal to burn things. Its illegal to assault officers. And why these officers not able to respond appropriately to maintain law and order . Because democrats are in charge who dont have their back. Who will throw them under the bus if they take an action to defend themselves. This is not about protesting a few idiosyncrasies of law. This is, do you support the police or not . And democrats are not there. They dont have their back and its in cities across the country. Harris you called leslie by name, well give her the last word before we move on. Leslie . Leslie im confused, in portland, as to why the people would want to have an occupation zone, because if they look at what happened in seattle on capitol hill, that was disbanded. They were requesting at the beginning, like kennedy referred to earlier, i agreed with everything she said 100 . Look, the problem here seems to be, according to the mayor of portland, who does not have the authority to say to federal officers that have come into his city, now you need to leave, there they legally and within their right to protect their property and the buildings. Part of the problem seems to be when they come outside of their jurisdiction, if you will, and theres a lot of anger over the weekend. When a peaceful Protester Holding a speaker was hit in the face by one of those federal officers and suffered a skull fracture. That seems to have ignited some of this. All of these occupation zones, harris, i would agree. A really good point. A lot of people say occupy wall street, when did that happen, what was it about, and what came of it . I dont think occupying these areas is very successful. We saw that in seattle, like i said. Perplexed why they want to try for it in portland. Harris as melissa mentioned, itll be interesting to see what the president plans to do. Hell roll it out in that big News Conference he previewed yesterday. Well move onto this, a big shakeup at the top of the Trump Campaign. Just about 110 days ago until election day. Next, how this may shape the 2020 race as it nears a critical stretch. Veterans, ratesd low mortgage have just dropped even lower. Using their va benefits, veterans who refi at newday can now save 3000 dollars a year with the va streamline refi. At newday theres no income verification, no appraisal, and not a single dollar out of pocket. One call can save you 3000 a year. Pya1ea we see you. Doing your part by looking out. For all of us. 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Fox has learned some in the campaign were shocked by the news, even though speculation about his future have been swirling for weeks. New Campaign Manager was announced, the Trump Campaign National Field director in 2016. He also worked on the 2008 campaigns with Rudy Giuliani and john mccain, and president bushs 2004 reelection campaign. The Trump Campaign downplaying the change and its timing, and the recent pullback that shows joe biden with a sizable lead over the president. The only thing that shifted was donald trump simply asked bill to steer the ship, and brad to man the guns. All the pollsters who got things wrong in 2016 are using the same methodology. They know these are weighted toward democrats. Melissa kennedy, thats a nice bend, but we all knew whatever happened at that rally, whether its because they force people to go home and they had to change the date, or it was the tiktok thing, whatever it was, somebodys head was going to roll as a result of that. What are your thoughts . Kennedy my daughters are convinced its the tiktok thing. Theyre also really mad at china for coronavirus and the fact they cant see their friends. Having said that, nothing here surprised me. I wouldnt be surprised if the president won in a landslide. I also wouldnt be surprised if joe biden won by 15 points. I think hogan gidley is right about that. Theyre using the same methodology. The poles were completely wrong, they have had four use to change things. If you remember four years ago, the president was in very deep yogurt one Paul Manafort was at the helm. He brought in Kellyanne Conway and steve bannon thing sort of turned around. Its also interesting he is going for a more traditional establishment person in stepien who was going to lead the campaign. It also tells you that the unorthodox approach, and the solely digital, they feel that that isnt enough and they have to do something. Thats always good when you can respond, but we will see, the pudding is quite some time for being set. Thats where the proof will be. Thats what they say, melissa. Melissa yes, they do say that a lot. Leslie, i am familiar with the polls. I also know i personally have been polled twice recently. I am very popular when it comes to polling. [laughter] because im not affiliated with a party, i am married, i have three children, i think i am a woman of a certain age, so i am sort of the vote people are looking for. I have a blast when they call me, and none of the information. Sometimes im 70 voted for de blasio but is thinking about trump, sometimes it just depends. How i toyed with these folks. How good you feel about the polling . Leslie i feel better about it now than in 2016. Although i have good memories of toy 16. Its interesting, parscale when he came on said this campaign would be the death star, talking about star wars. I had to look that up because im not a big star wars fan, sorry. But the death star didnt turn out too well. When you look at a campaign, the Campaign Managers, leadership is changing. Its because your campaign is flailing. Poll numbers, like you mentioned, they are awful, stagnant. And we know they werent accurate in 2016. For donald trump, who has never run a traditional campaign, in 2016, as mentioned, three Campaign Managers and one still as president. This might be as big a deal and a sense for the Trump Campaign. What is a big deal is for any candidate, trump included, its not the Campaign Manager that is the problem. For donald trump, this time around, more pointedly to answer your question, i feel the poll numbers are more accurate because its a different time. Its not about the economy, stupid. Its now about covid and racial injustice, and thats whats on the ballot in november. Melissa yeah. Pete, i got texts and calls from blm telling me to come out and join them for protests, as well. So, i am so popular. Pete you everywhere melissa yeah, seriously. Thats the problem with voting and using your correct phone number. Then the city of new york sells it to everyone. With me your thoughts on whats going on right now in this race, and the read we are getting on it. Pete four months in politics is a lifetime. For months in 2020, to stick with the star wars analogy, is light years. So much could happen. The debates are still to come. Lets be honest, theres only one campaign simplify the message, point out how far left joe biden has gone, and get to those debates. Remember the debates from 2016 . The allegations that came out, that he brought the Clinton Accusers . There in the front row. Its all donald trump. Hes got a great hand to play with his record. Before china effectively shut it down. Hes going to make that case. I dont think anybody could predict right now where well be say in october. Melissa harris, i cannot wait for the debates. I mean, are you as excited about that as i am . Harris oh, of course we are going to pop our corn and watch together, even if we have to socially distance to do it, melissa. Melissa you betcha. Harris think it comes down any kind of changes right now, i baselined everything to how you win in november. The president won independents. Feel free to correct me when i dont get this number right, but when i last checked it was seven points. This is about those people the president isnt polling a strong with right now. Regardless of how you feel about polling, they were key last time around. I argue they will be important this time around. The president cant just get this done with republicans. He cant. The numbers are not in his favor to do that against joe biden at this point. Its four months out, but those things have kind of existed irrespective of the date on the calendar as much. Playing against him right now is the response to covid when you talk with independence. How do you do that, shake that up . You talk with people who are more mainstream. Kennedy pointed out a really good point about this new Campaign Manager. Hes a lot more establishmenttype. Lets see what happens. Im ready for the popcorn. Melissa dr. Anthony fauci speaking out about his much discussed relationship with President Trump after his Top White House advisor slammed dr. Fauci in an oped. He made a statement representing himself. He shouldnt be doing that. I have a very Good Relationship with anthony. With less of the sugar you dont. [grunting noise] ill take that. Woohoo 30 grams of protein and 1 gram of sugar. Ensure max protein. With nutrients to support immune health. Oh, oh, announcer ® . 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Dr. Faucis comments are in an interview with in style magazine, and they follow the president s trade advisor, Peter Navarro, writing a usa today oped criticizing fauci. There are also reports the white house put together a memo listing faucis socalled missteps throughout the pandemic. In a separate interview, the atlantic magazine asked fauci about those criticisms. Watch. I cannot figure out in my wild dreams why they would want to do that, but, i mean, i think they figured out now that was not a prudent thing to do, because it is only reflecting negatively on them. I cant explain Peter Navarro. He is in a bye himself harris the white house is now distancing himself from his oped, and chief of staff mark meadows is fully engaged in the matter. Pete, when you look at this, is this palace intrigue or is it Something Else . And it comes really at a bad time because now people are struggling watching numbers burst in areas even outside of hot spots. Coronavirus is a focus, it continues to be in our front windshield. Its not behind us. Pete dr. Fauci said Peter Navarro is in a world of his own, and thats just not true. Theres plenty of room for criticism of the way in which dr. Fauci has gone about executing his role. And the advice he has given. Read the Peter Navarro oped in usa today, he points out he was against the decision to close china, he was more skeptical about the virus early on, flipflopped on the issue of masks, and now he thinks the mortality rate isnt what matters. When you are going back and forth like that, it is hard to provide the kind of guidance to governors that they need. What we know so much more today, how to shelter those who are most vulnerable. And inside that context, the encouragement to the people who can to go out and open the schools and the businesses and do so responsibly. You dont want to feel like there is a political agenda behind everything, but you can certainly disagree with dr. Fauci. I salute Peter Navarro for having the courage to do it publicly. He has a different point of view, the white house as they are to it out. Harris you know, kennedy, a shakeup at the top of your Coronavirus Task force is not like a shakeup at the top of your campaign. We are not doing any polling with americans i know about that specifically ask how they feel about the difference between those two things. But they are quite different and its a tender moment because there are people who are still in harms way, by this disease that is not going away anytime soon, it would appear. Kennedy and there is still a lot about the disease that we just dont know, and that is what is so scary. Harris amen. Kennedy that is what is scary for parents and older americans. We dont know if its mutating, if its easier to catch now but somehow less deadly. Time is a really critical element here. I would rather see dr. Found focusing on that, focusing on the data and what happens under the microscope, is raised up of the white house. I think that is sort of adding fuel to the fire. The fewer people we can have talking about themselves and the more people we can have actually studying the silence, the better well be in the short term in the longterm. There is a big difference between the two. In the short term, opinions are changing. In the long term, this could have dire ramifications for the economy, and it would be damn shameful to look back and say, we only needed to protect a vulnerable section of society, yet somehow we did so much longterm economic damage we may not be able to recover from that for years. Harris melissa . Melissa i find myself, as a mother, a huge critic of dr. Fauci for a simple reason. He has put our children last. When you look at the businesses that have gone back to work, they have found ways to make it safe for people to do this, that, and the everything, but not go back to school . Has he not made our teachers essential workers . How has he not looked at and talked about the fact that children give this disease to adults at a very small rate, but there is a way to keep home those teachers who are vulnerable. Our teaching population is younger. But if you are vulnerable, stay home. If you are kids with underlying conditions, stay home. But the fact that i feel like he has put our children last makes me very, very critical of him, especially because he is expanding the gap between rich and poor for decades to come by keeping poor kids home who dont have the resources to keep up on their education. There is a disparity and damage that is going on between these kids as they are kept home, and he deserves a lot of the blame for the fact that he hasnt made teachers essential workers and he has put our children last. Harris leslie, with the few seconds we have left, i want to get you in the conversation. Leslie sorry, i just dont agree with that. One of the frustrations that i hear from my husband and others in the Health Care Community is how everybody wants to mock them when this is a brandnew virus. They are learning not just day by day, but minutebyminute. We are seeing that throughout the world. Their responsibility as Health Care Professionals is for the health of the individuals in our nation. Not the economy, not any specific job melissa im also talking about health and im not mocking anybody. Leslie as im saying, it just has to do with the health. The problem that they have, or a lot of the decisions were lack of decisions and lack of leadership or lack of following that leadership are leading to, as we see in texas, arizona, here in california, and florida, i see youths that dont have enough beds in hospitals. We are seeing the Health Care Workers overburdened, quite frankly, because a lot of people who mock all of them run to them, the e. R. , and the guy see you when theyre sick. What they want is for us as a society to get together. Thing but Peter Navarro or this administration is we need, as people this should not be political, left or right, to look to her are leaders so covid can be in our review mere. I dont see that when you are mocking somebody on the Covid Task Force such as dr. Peter navarrodid with dr. Fauci. Harris i feel like we have more on this topic but we cant do it today. Its not going away and we will revisit. Among nationwide protests and calls to defund the police, President Trump has scored the endorsement of a key police group. Why is it key politically . Is it because the group endorsed joe biden for vp in 2008 and 2012 . How the Biden Campaign is responding to this switch by them as a trump ally says this is just the beginning. Theres only one vote you need, and that is for this president , who has consistently, since hes been in office, been a super prologue and order president. Place that you laughed about well the names have all changed since you hung around but those dreams have remained and theyve turned around whod have thought theyd lead ya back here where we need ya welcome back, america. It sure is good to see you. Melissa the Biden Campaign is now responding after a major police group, the National Association of police organizations, endorsed President Trump. It cites what it calls his steadfast and very public support for Law Enforcement. That same group endorsed former president obama and then Vice President biden in both the 2808 and 2012 election. Here is Biden Campaign cochair, congressman cedric richmond. When he came out for police reform, Genuine Police reform, to make our streets safe and make Community Safe dell my policing better, it was a risk. But he wasnt going to let politics get in front of his core beliefs. He is a statesman in that respect, that he cares about the next generation. Melissa the Police Commissioner says its a big win for the president. I think its enormous. I think its only the beginning. You have to realize, shannon, these 800900000 local, state, and federal Police Officers and Law Enforcement officers in this country. If they are watching the news, if they are watching whats going on in a daily basis around the country, whether its atlanta, new york city, baltimore, portland, seattle. AntiLaw Enforcement. Melissa kennedy, whats fascinating about this is this is one of the things underestimated about President Trump last time arou around. He puts together this coalition it isnt traditionally republican. If you watch his event yesterday in atlanta, georgia, where he was talking about infrastructure, the person he invited on the stage with him was not that if ups. He brought up a ups driver. He says i drive a big rig, we are going down this interstate, the interstate, trying to deliver packages to people. I really appreciate the idea that this president wants to make the road bigger. He put himself on the stage as a working mans president , which would be another sort of democratic coalition. The Biden Campaign is playing this off like its not a big deal. To me, its emblematic of this is kind of his strategy. Your thoughts . Kennedy as far as the union vote in 2016, the membership voted for President Trump, Union Leadership voted for Hillary Clinton because sh they knew she would protect the union establishment. Joe bidens all over the map in terms of how he feels about Law Enforcement in this country. I think he could do a better job of articulating it. On one hand he wants to say that he is not for defining the police, but on the other hand he is giving over the democratic platform to bernie sanders. This is one of those issues, document cultures, early on you are secretly sort of intuitively much more interested in a safe environment and a safe society. People will cast a vote based on the law order issue while still having a black lives matter banner in their front yard. They want to seem like it they are part of a movement, on the right side, but on the inside, when they call 911 they want to make sure someone is there to protect the family. Melissa the Biden Campaign try to spin this like h refusedo stand up and make a speech with them at their convention, i believe it was. It would be politically costly but he wanted a stand on principle rather than doing what he thinks it would be politically smart. What do you think of that . Pete politically smart would be defending and backing the police. Find me one guy that wears the badge that is an enthusiastic supporter of the modern Democrat Party that has captured joe biden. They dont exist. At some point, unions have to listen to their members. The guys doing the dirty work on the ground are keeping our communities safe overwhelmingly recognize that donald trump supports them and has their back. This is both important, because it is realignment. These unions, traditionally in big cities captured by democrat mayors, they recognize that their membership now support this president. Its a big shift but its also obvious. Could they really endorsed the modern Democratic Party . Of the ever again if they keep going down the trail of where the activists are trying to take them . This is huge. The present was certainly touted, on the debate stage, and dried into contrast. Melissa one thing im looking forward, coming up on outnumbered overtime, harris is going to talk more about all of this with the president of that policing group. Stay tuned for that. Also, we are awaiting the White House Press briefing by kayleigh mcenany, set to begin at the top of the hour. We will bring it to you once it starts. But first, one major u. S. City becomes the first place to okay a plan to remove police from doing traffic stops. An moiety Ny Police Say thats a bad idea. Thats next. Cic unique. Thats why i like liberty mutual. They get that no two people are alike and customize your Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need. Almost done. What do you think . I dont see it. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. 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I guess you could just speed anywhere you want. The city will instead use unarmed civilian workers as part of a board over all of Law Enforcement. The head of a housing Intrinsic Group who pitch the idea said police should only handle violent crime. But Police Unions in nearby San Francisco and san jose as well as los angeles blasting the plan in a joint statement, saying, we do not believe that the public wants lax enforcement of those incidents by nonsworn individuals. Traffic stops are some of the most dangerous actions Police Officers take. What happens when the felon with an illegal gun gets pulled over by the Parking Police . Nothing good, we are sure of that. Kennedy, i will start with you. I was joking about that you can speed anywhere you want, thats another one of those things. If they vote on and they decide to do it, i dont think its going to turn out well. If they want to try it itll be fascinating to watch. Kennedy its berkeley. If you want to live there, this is what youre getting. I hope theyre not putting unarmed civilians in harms way when they make them do the stops. That is true, they are some of the most dangerous stops Police Officers make. Having said that, ive never been able to talk my way out of a traffic ticket. If they have people who are at melissa really . Kennedy im all flatted. Very good at speeding, though. If they have people who are a little bit more rational that you can deal with and negotiate with and maybe get out of tickets, im all for that. I do not like red light cams. Its not the worst thing the world, i just hope people dont get hurt. Melissa leslie . Leslie kennedy, ive talked my way out of the few. Ill give you the pointers later. Look, i know why they did this. 8 of the Berkeley Community is africanamerican. 53 of those traffic stops are africanamerican. I have a problem with this, though. Clearly, if somebody is armed and somebody is not, that can be problematic. If somebodys driving under the influence, that can be problematic. I dont think this is a good idea, but we are going to have to wait and see what happens. If it ends up being a good idea, then cities with left or right leadership in the future might adopt it. Im a bit fearful for the safety of those civilians. Melissa i mean, from a serious point of view, pete, you dont want to see people get hurt. That does feel like this is where that might go. Pete its absolute lunacy. Just like the ivy league today is where the worst and most extreme ideas get laundered and poisoned into our society, berkeley is the type of city council that would launder an idea like this as if its going to help anybody, and its only going to put people in more dangerous situations. The unarmed people felons never drive fast because they are ,people stealing cars never drie fast. They have good intentions. Youre going to let criminals go free. And yet they are told the police are bad and cant do their job. They are unbelievable. Melissa thanks, guys. More outnumbered in just a moment. The White House Press briefing set to start moments from now. We will take you there once it does. As i said, more outnumbered in just a second. Well be right back. Now is the time for a new bath from bath fitter. Every bath fitter bath is installed quickly, safely, and beautifully, with a lifetime warranty. Go from old to new. From worn to wow. The beautiful bath youve always wanted, done right, installed by one expert technician, all in one day. Weve been creating moments like these for 35 years, and were here to help you get started. Book your free virtual or inhome Design Consultation today. [narrator] this is steve. He used to have gum problems. Now, he uses therabreath healthy gums oral rinse with clinicallyproven ingredients and his gum problems have vanished. crowd applauding therabreath, its a better mouthwash. At walmart, target and other fine stores. Melissa thank you to everyone out there for watching us today, and thank you to everyone. Pete site pete hegseth , joining us on the virtual couch. Well be back here tomorrow the same time. Estimate 4 00 p. M. Eastern on fox business. Now, heres harris. Harris we begin with the fox news alert, we are awaiting a White House Briefing again after police were targeted in new york city. You are watching outnumbered overtime now, im harris faulkner. Stunning new video shows protesters brutally attacking nypd officers. These are images that are fresh, that are closer up. Police on the Brooklyn Bridge were trying to keep doing demonstrations apart to prevent violence, but then four Police Officers were hurt, including the citys top uniformed officer, and those top in the department where those white shirts. You see them they are being attacked. Todays dramatic New York Post cover shows a bleeding officer with the headline, blue blood. Now the chief of department, who was among those attacked, terence monahan, withma