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Francisco. Adam schiff deliver results for california, not rather steve garvey. You need lower taxes. Katie porter, i want my kids to be able to afford to live in california. And barbara its time representation matters. California debate this is inside california politics. Senate debate. Good evening. You are looking live at the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco. This site up debate night in california. Im Nikki Laurenzo with fox 40 in sacramento and im Frank Buckley from ktla in los angeles. We are your hosts of inside california politics. The ballots are out. The march 5th primary is just 3 weeks away. You are watching this debate on air and online on one of our 6 nexstar media stations from San Francisco to los angeles and our partner stations all across the state. You can follow along tonights debate using the hashtag ca send debate there. You will find Additional Information supporting tonights questions. Lets go over the rules. Each candidate will get 60 seconds to answer a question. If theres a followup or rebuttal candidate will get 30 seconds. And 15 seconds for clarification if needed. We will be reminding the candidates of those times throughout the night when their time is up. The sound of a bell will play. The candidates will answer the questions in an order determined by our Emerson College poll. And right now we want to welcome our candidates who are here in the studio with us. Good evening to all of you. I get the first question. So lets begin the biggest news in the past 2 weeks has been the crisis at the border. Republicans after demanding a border bill pushing for the measure killed. Now that immigration is back to square one. Should President Biden bypass congress and take executive action to stem the tide of migration . Mister schiff, we begin with you. You have 60 seconds. I think first of all, i want to acknowledge that people come in this country, youre seeking a better theyre trying to provide for themselves or their family. Theyre often fleeing violence. And we didnt have a policy of the border that is consistent with our values as a nation. I also think we need order at the and the president is taking action should take action to try to deal with the crisis. I think we need to surge to have more Immigration Judges to process claims more quickly so that people dont have to wait years to have an asylum claim processed. I think we need to make sure that we have personnel at the ports of entry that can handle the huge number of people that appearing at ports of entry. But i dont agree with draconian solutions. I dont agree with mister who is promoting Donald Trumps border that doesnt work. Its ineffective. You can cut through that wall. But more than that, this isnt the right answer. We need a comprehensive Immigration Reform. Im gonna go to the senate and do away with the filibuster fight to do with the filibuster. So you get a comprehensive approach. Mister schiff to clarify. Do you believe that executive actions are in order 15 seconds . I do. I think the president is taking executive actions but there are limits to what the president can do without congress providing the authority. And we havent done it. And thats on a u. S. In congress. And i think democrats because republicans are not going help us with this. We need to do away with the filibuster. We need to get this done ourselves. Mister schiff, thank you very much, mister porter. Same question. You have 60 seconds. Good evening, california. I think that we need to invest in creating a lawful, orderly, humane immigration system and decade after decade, politicians in washington havent done that. And that is recreating the chaos and the challenges that were facing with our border communities. I have supported and will continue to support sending Additional Resources to help our border communities, including technology to make it easier to detect fentanyl or other goods coming into this country. Look, im ive only ever known a california in which immigrants were part in which we value their iety contributions. President biden needs to continue to work on immigration and to take action to address this crisis. But most of all, we need different leaders in washington who will get this worked and to clarify, are you saying that President Biden should or shouldnt bypass congress to take executive action to stem this current tide of migrants . 15 seconds. President ial power over immigration is one of the most. Its one of the areas where the executive actually has the most Legal Authority. To act without congress. So what i would say as President Biden should continue using the Legal Authority he has to address this issue while we elect leaders who will shake up congress and get Immigration Reform passed porter, thank you very much. Ms lee, same question. You you have 60 seconds. Well, thank you very much for hosting us tonight. I want thank you nexstar for making sure the public voters i have a chance to evaluate all of us as candidates. I believe that the president should take executive order comprehensive Immigration Reform is necessary. We will not have Border Security until we have comprehensive Immigration Reform. Theres still some policies in place which donald trump had put into place when he was president. Those need to go. And so i believe that our immigration system should be orderly. It should be humane and it should provide for due process. Currently, we need to make sure that we invest in cities and counties that are immigrants given the it. Abilities to send immigrants to other states. And what theyre doing is dividing residents from immigrants. And so we need to invest in making sure that immigrants have a safe place to stay. Can is leave. Thank you very much, mister garvey. Same question. You have 60 seconds and i agree. We do need new leadership. In california. And ill answer your question on day one. The president open the floodgates. And created a crisis in the United States. He should be the one to step up. In closed the border. He should be the one that stop. The infiltration. The cartels. Lets stop. Trucks rampant. Drugs are coming into this country from china. But lets stop human trafficking. We do have a system in place a system that works for his work for 100 years. Pathway to coming to United States legally. What weve done. And we continue to whether its the streets of our towns, our border. Have let Illegal Migrants into this country. It has to. Mister garvey. Thank you very much. Candidates want to stay at the border with a followup. Experts say billions of gallons of water from mexico tainted with sewage, raw sewage have entered the u. S. In just the past few weeks are border report dot com reporter sal rivera has the next question for you. Behind me, a smugglers gulch winning range that turns into a raging river. This is one of the areas where a lot of raw sewage from mexico enters the Tijuana River valley on the u. S. Side of the border. My question to you candidates what are you prepared to do about this situation . Mister schiff will begin with you have 30 seconds. There are 2 problems here. One is that you have waste coming from south of our border. But theres another problem, which is theres a sewage plant in the united statet in california that is broken. That is also not doing its job. We need to fix this problem and both sides of the border we need to which probably going to cost about 300 million, which ive been urging President Biden along with the california delegation to provide to remediate this problem and we need to take strong action because it is endangering the public. People are getting ill when a shutdown. And we need to bring urgency to address this issue. Mister schiff, thank you for that. Miss porter. You have 30 seconds. This is a crisis of oversight. We have failed to do the work to make sure that this Sewage Treatment facility on the u. S. Side as well as the Sewage Treatment facilities on the mexico side are functioning as they are supposed to be. There are years of deferred maintenance. Thats the reason we have where needed to put Additional Resources there. Ive met with made the mayor of Imperial Beach and other leaders both on the ground to see the problem for myself as well as met with him in washington. We can solve this problem if we put the resources in place have ability to go with it as porter. Thank you very much. Ms lee. Same question. You have 30 seconds. It is very important that we ensure the Environmental Protection agency with its in our Environmental Justice funds. That in the pa invest in the cleanup, first of all, and also, i understand that in the Imperial Valley and i have visited also met with the mayor and that thought that you want to in what is taking place. Its a huge problem because you have lowincome people. You have people of color, you have latino. You have mexicans on the mexican side. All are being affected by this. And so we need to thank you very much. And mister garvey, you have 30s. I think im the only one on this stage whos actually been down to the border. And i have been down recently. You cant go just want years ago. The poor people of san diego in Southern California are the ones that are at the brunt of this dumping of wastes. Thats coming across. Do you see signs that say you cant walk on the beach . You cant swim on the beach. So we have to take great actions in terms of protecting our people by speaking to where it came from and how were going to go back south. To that. Moving on now to the economy. A recent nexstar Emerson College poll found that 28 of californians believe the economy is the top issue in the upcoming election ranking higher than any other issue. According to forbes, the cost of living in california is 50 higher than the national average. And as a senator voters deserve to know what you would do about it. Miss porter, were going to begin with you. You said wealth inequality is hurting millions of californians calling it a malfunction of capitalism. So we are wondering tonight at what income level as wealth inequality begin. And youve laid out a plan for people below that. But what can people who arent who are above that level expect from you have 60 seconds. The issue with wealth inequality, theres no magic line. Its the gap. That is the problem. We have a society in which billionaires get tax breaks from career politicians who take their corporate pac checks and which every day families continue to struggle. Look making this issue is personal for me. My own children are questioning whether theyre going to be able to live in california when they graduate from high school because of the high cost of living. Thats why for least a 10 point plan to address the housing costs, which is available my web site. Katie porter dot com and i focused on signing bills into law that actually reduce costs. For instance, my bill to bring down pharmaceutical prices. So just a quick clarification area. 15 seconds for this. We were looking for a specific number. The issue with it, wealth inequality is about the gap. The problem is that the workers who are creating the the value who are hard at work are not receiving enough to live while washington insiders continue to give huge tax breaks to the wealthy, we have to close that gap and make sure that the california and america could still be a place of opportunity for the middle classes. Lee, thank you. Miss porter, thank you. Ms lee, you have the next question. Both of our democratic opponents are calling for a minimum wage between 25 20 25 an hour. Youre calling for a 50 an hour. Federal minimum wage. Thats 7 times the Current National minimum wage of 7. 25. An hour. Can you explain how that would be economically sustainable for Small Businesses . Youve 60 seconds. First, let me say i owned and ran a Small Business 11 years. I created hundreds of jobs. Benefits, retirement benefits. Also health care benefits. I know what worker productivity means. And that means that you have to make sure that your employees are taken care of and have a living wage in the bay area. Believe it was the united way came out with the report very recently 107 27,000 for a family of 4. Is just barely enough to get by another survey. Very recently, 104,000 for a family of one barely enough to get by low income because of the affordability crisis. And so just do the math. Just do the math. Of course, we have minimum wages that we need to raise to a living wage. You talk about 20 25, fine. But i have got to be focused on what california needs and what we calculate this wages. Lee, thank you. Mister garvey. You said a primary focus. For you would be reducing inflation. And one way you would do that would be cutting regulations for new housing specifically which regulations would you cut . You have 60 seconds. Well, regulations. Just stifle opportunity to grow. The housing industry and one of the ways to do this is to that just cut back inflation by simply getting a free market. Capitalism. It starts to address the needs of all the people and getting people stimulated again. Its supply and demand. We have to get materials to to those who are willing to build the housing. We have to be able to say, too, hardworking americans. I cant afford that. If Interest Rates are down, if Mortgage Loans are down so collectively with a robust economy, youll see all these things start to happen to start a trick. A quick followup for you, mister garvey. We specifically asked which regulations you would cut you 15 seconds. Well, the regulation on and housing in which we the cost of housing continue to rise to one simple recent. And lets take young adults. Young adults cannot afford to have the single most important equity in their lives. And thats it. And thats a home. So i go back constantly to the idea of all gates cutting down inflation. Mister thank you. And one more follow for you. 15 seconds. We know your rival stand on minimum wage. Where do you stand . Again, minimum minimum wage is where it is and should be. If you look at what California Center fast food franchises right now, increasing the minimum wage to 20 and whats going to happen . Thats going to increase costs for hardworking californians to go to to go to a franchise instead of going to be a 59 your times up, mister ship. You support enforcing antitrust laws for Grocery Store mergers. How would that help people at the Grocery Store and as a member of congress, why havent you called on the Biden Administration to do more 60 seconds . I have called on them to do more. In fact, i press the ftc when the chairman testified in committee to crack down on these mergers of grocery chains because what happens is these big grocery giants they they are effectively become a monopoly. The drive up prices. When i was the north of the state, i had a conversation with the woman who was in the mid 30s. She told me she did everything that she was supposed to do. They said get a good college education. So she got a good college education. She got a lot of student debt along with it. She said her rent keeps rising between her rent and her college payments she barely can afford or Health Insurance. She said shes terrified. She has nothing set aside for the future. No ability to said i site she is speaking for millions of people at that age and at every age we have to make the economy work for people again. And that means we have to build a lot more housing to bring down has housing cost. We have to guess enforce our antitrust laws to stop these mergers driving up prices. We need to stop things that are gouging mischief. Your times up. Thank you, frank. Turning now to the topic of homelessness. The latest numbers from the Department Housing and urban development indicate that as many as 180,000 people are experiencing homelessness right now in california. Thats after more than 20 billion dollars has been spent in this state to try to address the issue. Ms lee, the first question goes to you. You are homeless at one point yourself, youve been a lifelong advocate on this issue. Have you introduced any legislation that has been signed into law that was written to directly impact and health. The Homeless People i know what it because i have faced many, many obstacles in my life and i have site i have put forth legislation actually had legislation signed into law to bring flammable to expand the Homelessness Agency task force. I fought to expand section 8 housing. I have actually made sure right it hasnt passed in the senate. I fight to pass my deposit that, you know, one of the issues around homelessness is that people in california dont have the resources for first and last months rent and for security deposit. So why cant hood invest in a Revolving Fund to help people with their security deposits . We also need and the vix shun protection policy. An know, space is limited in shelters. Should people who are experiencing homelessness be allowed to live in tents, orrin rvs or on beaches or in parks while they wait for a permanent solution. You have 60 seconds, 30 billion dollars has been thrown at the homes. Its been wasted. When i go back to washington as your lee elected senator, the first thing i will do is make sure theres an to find out where that money went. I was recently on a tour san diego downtown. In los angeles. And in sacramento. Its its a crisis of humanity. And im so sorry that you went through that. But on that tour. I talked to the home. Some of been there 5 years in 7 years in 8 years. What we need to do and it seems to be more of a local issue because local it takes into account the citizens of that area, too. What has to be done. And and i believe this this seriously. As we the people. Have to tell washington. To get their act together and make sure this money goes diego, mister dream center in los angeles. These are mister garvey situations that should be followed. Let me remind you that the question was, should people who are experiencing homelessness be allowed to live intense or rvs or on beaches or in parks while they wait for a permanent solution 15 seconds. I dont think i think its a new name. 2 or 3 fires week in downtown los angeles. There are 2, 3, tests each week. Lets get back to humanity. They need to be taken off the streets. They need to be cared for. But its the drugs. And the mental illness. Thats the truest regard because they thank you. Thank you, Mister Schiff, since you first entered office in 2001, the population of Los Angeles County has stayed roughly the same. The district were where youre located, but the Homeless Population has grown some 10 times. Its 10 times higher on your campaign website. You say one of your biggest achievements is housing. Can you explain that given the numbers . You have 60 seconds. Im very proud that i brought millions back to california to to provide housing, to provide support services, Mental Health treatment for those who are homeless. So, yes, im very proud of what ive done now. Certainly is going to take more than one member of congresss effort to address homelessness. But let me just put this in perspective. If i can. My father turns 96 this he lives in boca raton, florida affectionally refer to as boca at when he was a starting out as a traveling salesman. When i was a kid, he was in the clothing this month to business here to 18,000 a year on the strength of that single income. Our family was able to afford home at 18,000 for the annual income of someone whos so close. We see how far weve moved from that point today. And mister garvey, you can say the minimum wage is fine where it is. What you want to know why People Living on the street. Its because were paying them poverty, wages, try to find a house anywhere in california. When youre earning minimum wage, we have to raise peoples for house in Services Homeless and we can do this. Weve demonstrated with homeless vets or shift your approach that works. Thank you very much. Mister garvey. Your name was invoked will give you 15 seconds to respond. Well, these are 3 career politicians. Who failed the people . Theyre the ones that can 60 years of experience. They could have stopped this issue. You keep talking about it should be higher. Why havent you done something about it . And stopping it has to go career. To show this. Thank you very much. Miss porter. Youve blamed career politicians in washington for californias housing crisis. Youve been in washington for more than 5 years, but it wasnt until last week that you introduced a 10 point plan to, quote, solve the housing crisis in california. What do you say to critics who might wonder why you waited until now to introduce this comprehensive plan for housing. You have 60 seconds. My background is as a consumer advocate, thats been my lifes work. I got involved in Public Service in california helping people who have been cheated by predatory lenders and then were being cheawed by foreclosure and by foreclosures on the way out. So thats my background is in housing. What i went to congress, i served on the Financial Services committee. We have several important hearings about housing cost, but frankly, washington isnt listening to californians. Theyre not focused on our biggest problems. They are focused on doing favors for their wall street donors and catering to them. So i think this is a problem of making sure that californias biggest challenges, including the cost of housing become washingtons biggest challenge. And thats what my 10 point plan doesnt really harnesses the power of the federal government to unleash that capital that we need to build more housing at a price point where workers can afford it. But again, the question is, why did you wait until just last week to introduce that comprehensive plan . Youve been in congress for more than 5 years. You have. 15 seconds. I have worked on housing issues since the day i was elected and have talked a lot about this about the challenges that my own family faces. You heard me earlier tonight talking about my kids worried theyre not going to be able to live in california. So this is an issue that ive worked on for many, many years before got in the congress and in my 5 years there, continue to lean in on this issue. Ms porter, thank you very much, nic. Were moving on now to the topic of donald trump. And we begin with you, mister garvey. You voted for donald trump twice, but it declined to answer if you would vote for him again. Have you spoken with him since entered the race and would you accept his endorsement if he offered it . You have 30 seconds. Question seems to pop up frequently. I did vote for him twice. I believe the greatest single currency we have as americans is the right to vote. I think its personal. I make that decision when the time comes. And i hope this puts too 2 the constant badgering. And the use of the former president s name as attack against me to try to paint me into a corner and thats what career path. They tried. Thank you, hear the question was, have you spoken to him and would you accept his endorsement . You 15 seconds. I havent spoken to. Would you accept his endorsement . These are personal choices. I only i answered it to guide my wife, family and to the people of california. And i hope you respect that. I have personal choices. Mister thank you. So this next question is for the rest of you. Mister schiff, would you vote to certify the election if donald trump each joe biden in november, you have 30 seconds. Of course they would vote to certify the election if someone wins the presidency, that should be the end of the matter. But he shouldnt be on the at because the constitution is quite clear. If you take an oath to defend the constitution as he did and then you violate that oath by engaging in insurrection. You should be disqualified. And i hope the Supreme Court will decide that question and not try to put that question. Let me just say this. Also to mister garvey the greatest threat that we trump. Mister schiff, your time is up is important me. Reporter. Look my name will get ok, well give you 15 seconds. No, sir, the greatest single threat to democracy. Is deconstruction of the constitution. Packing the court. Doing away with the filibuster. These are things that deconstruct democracy and and on the donald trump packed the Supreme Court, which is why millions of americans lost their right to reproductive freedom. Why the Supreme Court is striking down air quality water, quality regulations. Why it is you said Voting Rights were the most fundamental thing there this is mister ship fixated on one person and one person only. Mister darby, thank miss porter. Same question to you. Would you certify the election if donald trump went to 30 seconds . This kind of back and forth between democrats and republicans is what people are fed up with because theyre not focusing on the question that you asked, which is one that deserves to be answered. Yes, if donald trump fairly won the election, i would vote to certify the results. I have an obligation to do that and to uphold the constitution. Donald trump engaged insurrection and in my view, should not be on the ballot. But if that is what the courts decide and he won the election, i think that would be a grave grave harm and a service to our country. Its a democracy. But i would vote to certify hume is porter. Thank you. Ms lee. Same question. You 30 seconds. If donald trump won the i would vote to certify him. But donald trump is a threat to our national security. Hes hes a threat to our democracy, though he attempted to dismantle our democracy. I was sitting on the floor of the house on january 6. Im the lead plaintiff in the lawsuit indicating and saying very clearly the donald trump is not above the law. He is not immune from the crimes that he has committed. And we have got to fight to make sure and as president. Ms. Lee, thank you, mister garvey. One more quick followup for you. Will you certify the election if biden were to win in november . 15 seconds. Yes. Mister darby, thank you. Frank, over to all right. Turning now to a new topic, retail theft and a Violent Crime are real issues that california voters are dealing with right now. Mister schiff, this first question is for you have progressive reforms like doing away with bail for nonViolent Crimes or reducing certain felonies to misdemeanors, have those progressive reforms gone too far . You have 60 seconds. Theres no question that we have a crime problem in california, particularly the smashandgrab robberies. Ive been focused on trying to keep communities safe since i was a prosecutor back when Mister Garber is playing baseball, i was prosecuting cases in the u. S. Attorneys office in los angeles. And i think to take action against the smashandgrab robberies. We need to invest more in communitybased policing. We need to have the kind of joint task force is that the governors approved. I you know, fortune to bring back millions to my district to set up a regional dna crime lab that could help identify the perpetrators and bring them to justice. I also brought back millions to resolve a the rape kit backlog in los angeles, which would which was atrocious. So weve used all of these tools, i think, to go after those that are committing smash grab robberies. But i think what were seeing is not a result of the ballot proposition. The data just doesnt show that. So i wouldnt go so far as to say that this is a result of the ballot approach and the data doesnt support that conclusion. All right. Mister schiff, thank you. Miss porter. Same question. Have these progressive reforms gone too far . You have 60 seconds. Every californian should be able to feel safe in their communities. And weve all seen the news reports and its concerning as a parent and as a californian to worry that were not going to be say former shopping when were in parking our car. Were going to church. So i think its really, really important that the federal surge resources as appropriate to help with where the worst of these crimes are coming from, which is organized. Criminal enterprise is transnational crime. Thats where were seeing a lot of the fentanyl and these organized high value retail thefts. I dont think we should return to the socalled tough on crime policies of the 1990s. They resulted in terrible Racial Discrimination setback communities of color for generations. I think what we need is a lawful criminal system that really goes toward data driven and responsible programs that can prevent violence and and prosecute criminals when they break the law to do that is going to require federal resources to help our you very much. Mislead the city of oakland in your district has taken center stage in the crime conversation. Employees from Companies Like kaiser have been urged not to eat lunch outdoors because its not safe. The state is stepping in with a new surge of chp officers to crack down on crime. Do you believe that progressive reforms have gone too far . 60 seconds. Enhanced sentences dont reduce crime. Everyone wants Public Safety Everyone Wants their children safe. Everyone wants their Community Safe and im very pleased that the city of oakland and the state of california and the county, all of us have come together to try to make sure that we and hans Public Safety and reduce crime. Its important that the federal government and i always have said and continue to fight to bring federal resources in because its a partnership that must be enhanced. If were going to reduce crime. But let me just say a couple of things in terms of the underlying causes of crime. Weve got to get these ak 40 sevens ghost guns and assault weapons off the streets of california off the streets of oakland. We need National Gun Control measures. We have to reinstitute the assault weapon ban and we have to address many more underlying conditions in terms of violence, interrupters finding young peoples organism, young violence prevention organizations to prevent crimes before believe progressive reforms have gone too far. That now. Now, ok, thank you very much. Mister garvey want to ask you a a different question on crime that put you at odds with many of your fellow republicans. You said you are for an assault weapons ban. Are you committing now to vote . Yes, on such a ban. If you are elected to the u. S. Senate and it comes to a vote in the u. S. Senate, you haveu 60 seconds. Well, i reiterate the last time that i did not say that. How what i do say is california has spoken in terms of assault weapons. I do believe constitution, believe in the second amendment. I think its been tried and tested. I think what is important background checks to continue to be diligent in terms of making sure that guns are in the hands of people that are qualified, capable. But getting back to youre talking about crime in the streets. Its rampant. Its never been more crime in the streets of california. And today. Opponents here, career politicians. Its been on their watch. Theyre responsible. There are a das youre doing fabulous chops in california. But there are others tonight. I did a right to ride along recently. And i said, whats the problem . The office of the problem is were doing our jobs, putting our life on the line. And we take the criminal and and the 30 minutes i want to say, let me finish if i would place. And we look up and we want part of agreed to the rules. I do want to ask you to clarify, you said that people of california have spoken. On assault weapons ban. Are you now saying youre not in favor of assault weapons ban . Yeah. 15 as the next senator of california. I pledge to uphold the voice of the people. And i spoke about the second amendment, the constitution. I reiterate. All right, mister garvey, thank you very much, nic. Our next topic has to do with age limits in our most recent inside california politics poll, we asked voters their feelings on setting an age limit for federal office. 71 of those surveyed say yes, they support age limits. And that was before this past weeks findings from the special counsel focused on the nations attention of on the age of the president. Even more sport or 60 seconds to you. Do you think joe biden who is 81 and donald trump who is 77 are too old to be running for a second term. You 60 seconds. President biden and his administration biden, harris administration, have delivered for californians. We know we hear this when talking to people about the fact that insulin, for example, is now 35 that we fund invested in bringing back manufacturing jobs here to the United States and that were investing in clean energy to help us compete with china. When im evaluating President Biden. What im looking for is the results. What hes delivered to help my family. And im pleased with what hes done so far. I do think generally that age limits our conversation for all elected officials that we ought to be have it. Youre absolutely right. Californians are wondering about this. And i think thats a conversation. We ought to be open to. I think we need a mix of people who had years of experience and people like me really been in congress for 5 years. But i think we have to have that conversation. My colleague, representative schiff voted against age limits for members of congress in the very same week that he voted for age limits for Supreme Court justices. I think thats the kind of question where we are on this issue is porter. Thank you, mister shift. She invoked her name will give you 15 seconds for rebuttal. Well, as represent puerto should know, Supreme Court justices have life tenure on the court. You cant vote them off the bench. So theyre quite different than elected officials that are always held accountable. So theres a very strong difference in particularly when we have stacked the Supreme Court as Mitch Mcconnell and donald trump did with the reactionary justices, there should be some mechanism to rotate the members of that court off the bench. So i favor term limits on the Supreme Court as well. Mister schiff, thank you, nic, because those are term limits, not age limits, term limits. And theres a big difference. Mister miss porter, 15 seconds. As Mister Schiff well knows. That is is true that we have gerrymandering and elections that are better dig deeply blue districts in which there really arent competitive elections. In fact, hes hoping that the senate race turns into one with his ads that hes running right now. So the reality is we dont always have opportunity to make those important thing here. Times of miss le same question to you and ill repeat it. Do you think joe biden who is 81 in donald trump, who is 77 . Are too old to be running for a second term. You 60 seconds. President biden has delivered and continues to deliver for the american people. When you look at what was taking place in our country when President Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris won the election, people are dying each and every day from covid, especially in black and brown communities. They came in and they turn this around with democrats in congress right away. And when you look at our economy, we have a long way to go. Yes, but look at the jobs that have been created. Look at what has taken place in the terms of equity in terms of our labor unions in terms of the right to organize in terms wages and benefits weve created and the Biden Administration has created millions of jobs through the infrastructure bill through the Inflation Reduction Act experience matters. I have to say and regard to term limits age limits, this is a democracy. People have a right to vote for who they want to vote. 4. This is not were not talking about an appointed position. Were talking about any lab is really in a democracy. Everyone has a right to vote. Your times mister garvey. Same question to you 6. Absolutely. Its time that we we let the prople of california and in this country make that decision. Weve taken too many opportunities away from them. And when youre talking about this administration and this president. Were saddened when we look at him say hes in now. But lets not forget. That this country is worse off today. It was 3 years ago. Categorically. So the people speak again, they will speak. March 5th they will speak in november. Lets get the power back to the people and especially in the state of california, mister garvey. I want to clarify, though, the question was, do you think joe biden who is 81 and donald trump, who is 77 . Are too old to be running for a second term. You 15 seconds. I think its capability. We all in our own minds and with their own eyes and ears have to make that determination. Mister, every thank you, mister ship. Same question. You get 60 seconds. I think joe biden sent a remarkable job. He has taken the most aggressive action that weve seen in generations to attack climate change. He after 4 years of trumps talking about infrastructure week with no infrastructure, weve got a bipartisan infrastructure bill done. The chips and science act is going to bring back a highpaying Good Technology jobs to america. What hes done has been extraordinary. Now, some people are unfit for office at any age. And i put donald trump in that category. But look, i someone who knows how to get things done. Someone with the experience and knows how to get things done. You cant walk down the halls of Congress Without tripping over 5 people that are going to say they are going to shake up washington. Well, they dont end up getting anything actually accomplished. Im proud of the record i have of delivering for california delivering mass transit delivering early earthquake warning system, a passing legislation to build a light rail and to bring up today. Textbooks schools. I took on Insurance Companies and passed a california patient bill of rights, as i mentioned before, it brought millions back to the state to build housing. Senator feinstein brought the state and thats what im going Mister Schiff, thank you, frank. Moving on now to israel recently, a spokesperson for President Biden said that any peaceful only begin with the elimination of hamas. Ms lee, you have 60 seconds. Do you agree . I early on. The what was taking place as it relates the attack to the attacks on october, 7th against israel, a terrorist attack, which we all condemn. I condemn israel deserves to live in security and in peace. I also have called for a permanent ceasefire. I know only through a diplomatic and political settlement and discussions and and resolve. Will one israel be say right now currently killing 25 to 30,000, civilians is counterproductive to israels security. I also know that the longer this war takes place, the broader it spreading. And as i said, right after 9 to 11 it when i voted against that authorization, that was overly broad, that this could spiral out of control. And in fact, now the United States is embroiled in what could be a that offer as permanent ceasefire. To clarify, do you agree with the notion that any peace will only begin with the elimination of hamas . You 15 seconds. I say any peace only only work. First of all, if there is a twostate solution, which netanyahu has said would not be, agreement. He would not agree to a twostate solution and that is really a very important of security and peace in the region for the israelis and palestinians. Thank you very much for that miss porter. Same question. You have 60 seconds. The people of deserve better leadership. Then they got under hamas, which diverted resources for its terrorist activities. The heartbreaking scenes that have been created by this war. Our only deepening what has long been a serious humanitarian crisis in gaza with regard to food, water and medicine. So i think the people of gaza absolutely need different leadership. I think that any peace should come with the release of the hostages as well as a commitment by the United States and israel to help rebuild gaza and position. It to flourish in the future. And to the question that only any peaceful only begin with the elimination of hamas, you say what you 15 seconds. I would say that hamas cannot come to the people of gaza will not thrive and will not be a durable peace so long as there is the risk of terrorism and the ongoing weaponization people being used as human shields in gaza. So i think we should be pushing for a bilateral durable ceasefire and they think the way to get there to have a secure israel and to have the people of gaza flourish to have different leadership for the people of gaza. Thank you, miss porter, mister garvey. Your rivals on this stage, all support some version of a twostate solution. Youve called that naive. So how does this and are you suggesting that israel will have to occupy gaza once this military conflict . And you have 60 seconds, i stand for israel yesterday today and tomorrow. I believe the devastation on october 7th. Internal. For anyone to. Think they could tell israel. That they cant determine their destiny and their sovereignty. Doesnt understand the people of israel. Israel will determine. Your question whether hamas will survive and to think there could be a 2 state state solution. Is nigh because one of those states will always try to annihilate israel. So to clarify, youre saying israel will decide. And does that mean that israel, if it decides to occupy gaza that thats ok with you . Your 15 seconds. I think thats a very ambiguous question. Its and so much that even if you were to think that this was a possibility. At least be another generation before that could happen. Okay. Mister garvey, thank you for that. Mister schiff, youve repeatedly refused to call for a full ceasefire. Last week President Biden said that israels actions have been over the top and the killing must stop. Is the president wrong . Yes, 60 seconds. Well, first of all, what happened on october 7th with the deliver it israelis with the butchery with the torture. With the rape of his early women. Was. Designed by this terrorist group. Hamas provoke exactly the reaction that it got. It could care less about civilians in gaza. If it had any care for its own people, it wouldnt spent all those millions and hundreds of millions of dollars building tunnels that would have provided for the people of gaza. They wanted this kind of response. Israel has a right to defend itself. Hamas is threatening to attack them over and over and over again. No nation could endure that at the same the president s right to continue pressing israel to try to avoid civilian casualties, to try to minimize the loss of civilian life. The president is right to try to bring about a humanitarian pause so we can get. Hostage out. But at the end of the day, there isnt going to be the twostate solution. I want to see if terrorist organization like hamas is continuing to governorship in gaza. Thank you. Is the president wrong when he says israels actions have been over the top and the killing must stop the a 15 i certainly agree with the president that we have to do everything to reduce civilian casualties. I dont know that i express it the way the president has. But i think he is right to try to bring about this negotiated deal. Where will have an extended pause so we can get the hostages out in more aid right, Mister Schiff, thank you very much, according to our government, the u. S. Is being attacked consistently by proxy forces funded by iran. Those attacks have already killed 3 u. S. Soldiers. The question is for all of you, ms li, youre going to get the first one. Do you think the u. S. Should directly attack iran in response . You have 30 seconds. The United States should not attack iran. If we. Are going to lead. Efforts to achieve global peace and security. We have got to deescalate. We have to got to find pathways to nonviolence. And we must insist that these that the war that is taking place now, which has unfortunately been brought the United States and from past so that we can begin a diplomatic and political solution. Ms lee, thank you, mister garvey. Same question to you. Do you think the u. S. Should directly attack iran in response to have 30 seconds . I do not. We have the brightest military minds in the world. And i know theyre working constantly to determine the best path for us. To continue to be the single greatest. Democracy to turn. But we have to be more reactive. We have to be quicker and reactive 18090 attacks americans. And finally, casualties. We must respond. We must respond quickly. Mister darby, thank you. Mister schiff, same question. You 30 seconds during the trump administration, i had a meeting with President Trump along with several my colleagues to discuss what our response should be when the iranians down one of our drones to put it mildly, it was up in the same room with him. But nevertheless, my advice to him would be the same advice to the president , which is our to be proportionate. It to be taken in concert with our allies. I dont think attacking within iran would be proportionate. But i do favor a very strong response that goes after these iranian backed militias that sends a powerful message that any attack on american troops will be met with with blistering force. And i think thats what the president has done. Mister schiff, thank you. Miss porters. Same question to you. 30 seconds. I think we have to be clear eyed about iran as an enemy of the United States. And we have to have clarification and leadership from President Biden about what his iran policy is. A knife past and amendment through the house of representatives to do exactly that. I think we have to be careful about getting drawn into another protracted long war with no clear goal on foreign soil. But i do think we need to support the people of iran as they push back on this oppressive regime and recognize and take very seriously the threat that iran poses to the United States. Miss porter, thank you, frank. All right. Lets talk about money. The white house has requested 75 billion dollars for the wars in ukraine israel. This next question is for all of you. Should there be a cap on how much the u. S. Spends on ukraine and israel. Ms lee will start with you. Yes, 30 seconds. There should be accountability. U. S. Taxpayers deserve to know that their tax dollars are going for a purpose, which ensures that theres accountability and transparency. It is very important. Also to make sure that all of our International Laws are complied with in terms of the rules of engagement with regard to countries that are engaged in warfare and the ukrainian people deserve our support. Putin, of course, is trying to my dismantled democracy in ukraine. Eastern europe is not disconnected to what donald trump has tried top tried to do in terms of toppling our democracy here in america. And so i dont believe that we can say there should be a cap, but there should be accountability. Ms lee, thank you very much. Mister garvey. Same question. Should there be a cap on how much funding the u. S. Cents to ukraine and israel . No rights. Believe the miss lee, we have to be diligent. We have to have accountability. But again, we carry the torch for democracy around the world. We support our allies. We stand with we stand there for their needs. Humanitarian loss along with with men and boys and a generation of future tells us that we will stay past in the needs of our allies. So to be clear, accountability, but no caps. 15 seconds. Okay, ok . Thank you very much. Mister schiff. Same question. 30 seconds. What vladimir putin, ted invading Russia Threatens not only democracy in the sovereignty of ukraine but threatens all of u. S. Start to the markets around the world. I wouldnt put any kind of artificial cap. There should be accountability, but i wouldnt put a cap. What i will tell you this. What speaker johnson is doing any Just Announced hes going to hold up this package is deeply irresponsible. This is where todays gop is. Theyre going to abandon an ally at war with her at the surrey. Theyre going to up to the kremlin dictator. I cant believe that after donald trump sidled up to putin in helsinki and took the side over on agencies that that mystery still voted for second time. Thats im coming from, right . Mister schiff, thank you. Miss porter. Same question. Should there be a cap on how much funding the u. S. Cents to ukraine and israel . 30 seconds. The United States needs to stand up for freedom for democracy and for human rights and lead to do that around the world. Our own democracy is only going to be safe if were fighting for those values around the world. So i support to ukraine and aid to israel. I to taiwan. I think it is important that we are requiring that to given and complied with with all foreign and International Laws. Look, i drive a minivan with the license plate oversight. I really, really care about making sure how we spend our tax dollars. And this is not to line the pockets of defense contractors and to help politicians who take corporate pac money, which i never have. This is about making sure that were protecting our allies abroad as porter. Thank you very, very much. We have a little time left. And so we want to to a different sort of question from the policy to the personal and wed like you to answer if you can, with the oneword answers. Were going to start with ms lee and then well work our way down the line. Miss lee. Whats your Favorite Movie . The color mister garvey. Same question. The natural mister ship, the big lebowski. That question really tied the whole evening to miss porter starwars. All right. Lets go to what was the last book you read this league . Mister garvey. The case for civility. Mister schiff. Last great book was grant by ranchera and a miss porter. Now, last decade, it was the late comers. All right. Thank you very much. It is now time for our closing statement. See, will each have 30 seconds. We begin with you. Let thank you giving us chance to be with you this evening just say to the first of all, i i know what it takes. 2 make life better for everyone in california. I face many, many obstacles in my life. Some weve talked about tonight and being unsheltered. But also i was on public assistance raising 2 small kids as a single mom i needed i had to bring children class with me because i could not afford child care. And childcare is a big issue for me. And so i hope california voters know that. I think you like to me that we have someone who fight for them. Ms lee, thank you, kate. Is a porter. You have 30 seconds for your closing statement. My kids asked be all the time. Mom, why doesnt congress expense . Well, the truth is congress does fix a lot of things. They fix it so that billionaires get more tax breaks while the rest of us struggle to make ends meet, they fix it so that big oil can continue to poison our communities, especially communities of color. They fix it. So big pharma to continue to price gouge us. Im running to do it differently but never taking corporate pac money. And then the only elected official in the state. You can say that fight for californians, not special interests. Miss porter, thank you very much. Mister garvey of 30 seconds. You the people of california and i have been on a 50 year journey. You know me. You know, my heart and soul. And now i may have the greatest honor of my life and thats to represent you. To go every day. To the senate to go up to bat. For your quality of life for your future, for your children. And you know that. California deserves you and i. You as the wind beneath my wings. I thank god for you. I thank you. All right your vote. Thank you very much. Mister schiff. Your closing statement, 30 seconds. Senator feinstein was a giant in the state and she was a giant because she was able to take on the big fights and get things done. California deserves another senator who knows how to take on those big fights. I took on a corrupt president investigated in my a pitch to him and when he engaged in insurrection, i held him accountable in the january 6 committee. But im taking on other bullies as well. I prosecuted Oil Companies and corrupt defense contractors. I thought the Health Insurance industry to pass patients bill of rights. I brought millions back to california for housing, mister. Some people talk a good game but cant get anything done going to deliver years helpful. Alright, thank you very much. And that does it for us for tonight. 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