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that information that you get at the site can be very important. what hard drives did you pull out? we learned a lot about al qaeda and its operations from getting into bin laden's compound and taking out computers, taking out information. that's another reason why, in addition to the civilian casualty case, that you do sometimes special forces raids around really, really important terrorist leaders, because you don't just take them out. you get to learn a lot about what the current state of isis is. >> courtney, i would like your thoughts on that point, about how valuable the intelligence was, but it goes without saying that this was a promise that president biden made after u.s. troops left afghanistan, that the war against isis would continue, it would be sort of rooted in intelligence and special forces, and it seems like this is an important marker for him as well, that that strategy is indeed working. >> yeah, i mean, and ben is absolutely right about the site exploitation, and we know that they were able to gather up some

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