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watching. >> yes. dave, really quickly though again, from what you say the constitution of the state of virginia gives precedence in these matters to the local school boards, right? if that's the case, this should be -- i mean, game, set, match for the local school boards when it is ultimately decided on its merits, correct? >> you would think so, joe. but in florida we have something similar in our state constitution and it didn't stop the state appellate court from ruling for governor desantis. you see the ideology of judges get in the way sometimes. they're supposed to be above politics, but sometimes you have judges who are conservative, they're appointed by republicans and they rule the way of the conservative governor. >> state attorney for palm beach county, dave aronberg. sometimes we see photos of

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