Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220121 02:16:00

for ms. trump to talk about what she knows, given hoy much she features in other people's testimony. there's so much going on in this today. we're going to get expert help concerning the revelations. this is from the letter. as january 6th approached, president trump attempted to persuade vice president pence to participate in his plan to not count the legitimate electors for the electoral college vote. one of the discussions occurred on the phone on the morning of january 6th. you, meaning ivanka trump, you were present in the oval office and observed one side of the telephone conversation. general kellogg was present during that call and has testified to the january 6th investigation about that discussion as follows. question, and there's the transkrimt from kellogg's testimony, question, it's been reported that the president said to the vice president you don't have the courage to make a hard

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