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Walked in their boots and left that life behind. All across the country, i help extremists disengage before they destroy the lives of others. But sometimes im too late. Tonight a shocking series of discoveries. The fbi found bombmaking materials and radioactive elements they believe could be tied to a neonazi group. Race war down i never say, go out and kill anybody. I said, if you must do it, for gods sake do it right. To pull people out of hate in time tell me whats going on, whats happening . You have to first understand how they got pulled in. I dont know what this is. And that can be dangerous. I dont know if its a trap. I dont really know what im walking into. Simply pure, unadulterated destruction. May 19th, 2017, in tampa, florida, a story about a bizarre series of crimes unfolded on the nightly news. When tampa Police Arrived, Devin Arthurs was holding an employee and two customers at gunpoint. Police responded to the hostage crisis and took 18yearold Devin Arthurs into custody. There he confessed to a far worse crime. A double homicide. Arthurs admitted he killed his two roommates, 22yearold Jeremy Himmelman, and 18yearold andrew wanstuck, who he describes as neonazis. When Police Arrived at arthurs apartment, what they found was no ordinary crime scene. Inside were neonazi decorations, hoards of white supremacist literature, and a framed photograph of Oklahoma City bomber, timothy mcveigh. They also found the bodies of jeremy himmel man and an new onuschuck, both shot at close range with a semiautomatic weapon. Police had no idea theyd just stumbled on the headquarters of a newly created new owe Nazi Hate Group called atomwaffen. Its a terrorist organization, a neonazi organization. Whats it called . Atomwaffen division. Arthurs told investigators he had a fallingout with his roommates who he identified as neonazis. I want to blow up refugee ships, they wanted to target blacks. These people, they were not just innocent people. They werent just like roommates is what i mean. Inside the apartment, the bomb squad also discovered explosive components, including homemade fuses and even radioactive material. Arthurs claimed it belonged to a fourth roommate named brandon russell, a member of the Florida National guard and the founder of Atomwaffen Division. Brandons the leader of the organization. I was the Senior Leader at one point. I thought id heard the name of just about every hate group in america. But id never heard of atomwaffen. What i find about them online is deeply disturbing. Powerful propaganda that highlights their shadowy paramilitary organization. Even their name is extreme. Atomwaffen is german for atomic weapons. And from what i can tell, membership is growing. If im going to prevent more kids from falling prey to atomwaffen, i need to find out how theyre getting radicalized and recruited in the first place. The grieving family of andrew onuschuck, one of the victims in the tampa killing, offers to help. Walt, chris, and daughter emily, who live in an honor, middleclass neighborhood outside of boston, are in a uniquely tragic position. They lost a loved one twice. First to an extremist ideology, then to an extremist bullet. From the outside, like my brother was a neonazi. And people would message me on facebook, your brother deserved to die. And its hard to get other people to understand that he was in a neonazi group but he was still a good kid. People are like, youre delusional, youre trying to cope. No. Those two things can coexist. I want to understand, you know, who was andrew as a kid . What was the trajectory . Can you tell me a little bit about that . He was a little loveable, redlipped kid, always drooling, and so, so cuddly. He was compassionate and he had lots of empathy. Happy birthday 15 years later, andrew was a conflicted and lost teenager. How can you have these feelings about yous and africanamericans and nationalism and on the other side be this loving, compassionate, and passionate person . Between 2012 and 2016, there was a 600 increase in followers of White Nationalist movements on twitter. Most americans probably dont imagine one of them could be a suburban kid from massachusetts. But theyd be wrong. Happy birthday to you andrew was a contradiction. Handsome, physically fit, and outdoorsy. But also socially awkward, selfserious, obsessed with military history. All of which isolated him from kids his own age. I remember when he was a kid, the kids were really making tun of him one day in the culdesac here. I remember him just stomping off and there was a stove up here, and he was on the stove, sitting there with his arms around his knees. And that picture, you know, kind of sticks with you. In 2010, when andrew was 11, walt, a Lieutenant Commander in the United States navy, deployed to iraq for a year. And things took a turn to the worse on the home front. Andrew became angry and combative towards his mother and sister. He spent nights ca s camping aln the woods behind their house. And hours isolated in his bedroom. The onuschucks asked me to take a look around andrews room to see if i could find clues to his descent they might have missed. I discover new numerous warning signs of national socialism. The ideology of the nazi party. And hate paraphernalia thats only visible to an experienced eye. So this book in particular, a lot of sim bottle here. First thing i notice is the 1488. It stands for the 14 words, which is the white supremacist mantra of, we must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children. The 88 there is for the eighth letter of the alphabet, double h is while hitler. I would not know any of that. Your son comes downstairs, and i dont know what this is. You know what i mean . So this is a nordic rune, thats the tree of life. If i look, i have one thats tattooed on me. Thats covered up on me but i have a couple there. Theres nordic runes. The band is a norwegian black metal band. The singer went to prison for burning churches. He is very much a national socialist, as is the scene surrounding this band. So heres thats whats called a wolfs hook or a wolfs angle. Its an old Nazi National socialist symbol for world war ii. Everything that ive seen here is a sign that most parents would never know to look for. I had no clue about that. For the first two years i was involved in the movement, 14 and 15 years old, my parents had no idea. And then one day i was bold enough to come home with a shaved head and with a tattoo. My parents said, what . What is this . Too late. I see so many kids who had a bright future, who were smart, had the support of a family, and most people think, these are not the kids that get recruited, that go down that path. Yeah, its not what you think of. They think of broken homes, alcohol, addiction, abuse. And that certainly happens, but i can tell you, this is the bulk of what i see. And these days my inbox is flooded with cries for help from people just like the onuschucks who fear they are losing their loved ones to white power extremism. Tonight one message stands out. Christian, i was recently a very publicly outed as a prominent leader of a White Nationalist terrorist cell. This isnt a normal skinhead group. It is a cult on steroids with lots of guns. I have two options now. Taking my wife and destroying my family or get out. I dont know how to do the latter. You are my last option. The email was written by an active member of Atomwaffen Division, the same group andrew onuschuck belonged to. 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Every available unit in the city needs to get here now. Ive never worked with any of their members. But now one of them has reached out. I have a rare chance to learn how this frightening organization, linked to the murders of five people in the last two years, including andrew onus chuck, is radicalizing recruits. I see this as really an opportunity to help people who might turn into active shooters or who might be planning a terrorist attack. So this is a critical stage. And hopefully it will stop people from getting killed. Any time somebody tells you that they were part of a group that murdered people, that was preparing for a race war, i take that seriously. I dont know if its a trap, i dont know if this guys genuine. I dont really know what im walking into. The man who has asked for my help is a leader in atom waffens ranks. Hee has concerns about his identity, so i agree to obscure his face, name, identity. Ill call him richard. You reached out to me. Whats going on, whats happening . Well i got caught up with what is basically becoming a White Nationalist terrorist group. How does one become a leader of a cell in atom waffen . A leader just means youre basically the first one in a specific area. You dont tell people to do any particular one then or another. Its just a collection of lone wolves with annoy istic views. How big an organization is this in . I dont think they have more than 40 to 50 people. 40 to 50 terrorists can cause a lot of damage. Sure. I was watching one of the atomwaffen propaganda videos which to me looked exactly like an isis video. What are people learning how to fire awe took weapons doing that for if theyre not prepared for an armed race war . That is what theyre preparing for. Their end game is simply pure, unadulterated destruction. It is a death cult. Are we going to see the day where theyre walking into a school or to a mall or to a government building and opening fire on everybody . If they are, theyre not going to tell anyone about it until it happens. Given what richard tells me, you might wonder why anyone would join a group as extreme as atomwaffen. Andrew oneschuks family tells me he was a lonely kid who had difficulty finding a group of friends or a community he could truly call his own. He didnt pick up on social skews. He couldnt engage in normal conversations. Like he could kind of play the game with adults, but with peers he couldnt. There are a lot of kids who are struggling who dont tell us what theyre going through because they dont want to be seen as broken or odd or strange. Further isolated. Yeah, because its further isolating. What they dont understand is when they gravitate towards these isolationist movements, theyre becoming more isolated. Uhhuh. As andrew got older he would spend hours all alone, researching conspiracy theories on the internet. You know, sandy hook was a setup. Right. The holocaust didnt happen. Yeah, or men didnt land on the moon. Or the vaccines. Are you serious . Do you really believe that andrew . It was so frustrating. Andrew did believe it. And he began advocating his farright ideologies. His family grew increasingly concerned, spending thousands of dollars on private schools, outdoor leadership programs, and psychologi psychologists. Desperately trying to help their son. Andrew had every resource available. They sacrificed everything. I think every time we talk its like what can we do for andrew . Andrew oneschuk was young and idealistic, but socially isolated and confused. Ripe for the picking for hate recruiters on the lookout for new blood. But i still need to find out how andrew found atom waffen division. Or if they found him. And here we have another burst pipe in denmark. If you look close. Jamie, are there any interesting photos from your trip . Ouch, okay. Huh, boring, boring, you dont need to see that. Oh, here we go. 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They find that idea ol because it fills some void in them. 18yearold Andrew Oneschuk was murdered by a member of the White Supremacist Group he joined, trying to fill that void. The same way i once did. I was physically recruited in an alleyway in chicago. While andrews path to radicalization happened right here at home. Inside his bedroom was a portal into a dangerous world of false facts, deceptive prop band did, and hate. Few people understand that the internet itself has the power to radicalize young people, and the crux of this problem lies with platforms like google, reddit, youtube. What has made them so dangerous is their search algorithms. If you watch one or two videos, curation technology will continue feeding you similar content not based on factual accuracy, but on popularity. With no reliable guide to help discern whats true and whats not. A persons world view can become poisoned. Thats what happened to me. Richard tells me its what happened to him too. It started with online activities. You know, just floating around on right boards. Theres like a step process where you go from the altright and start to get a little bit more extreme. You get your fullfledged national socialists. Like andrew, richard tells me hes never had many friends. He went online in search of a brotherhood he could call his own. They unequivocally accept you for who you are and tell you, you are the master race. You are the top dog. And you fall for it. You really do. I know exactly how that feels. Because it happened to me 30 years ago. It was easy for them to put their hooks into me because i was looking for acceptance. And i was willing to do really awful things to just maintain that level of acceptance. Dat sire to fight for a cause and community is a powerful intox cant for Vulnerable People. As a teenager Andrew Oneschuk found an obscure one half a world away. He became obsessed with a Paramilitary Group in ukraine called the azof battalion and watched videos of their exploits online. He saw them as Freedom Fighters battling prorussian separatists. In reality, azof battalion is also an infamous neonazi militia. Its founding members said the groups mission is to lead the white races of the world in a crusade against semiteled subhumans. And the group has learned to exploit the internet as an International Recruitment tool. Good evening and good morning to our listeners in the u. S. You are listening to when he was just 16, ukrainian supporters of azof battalion found andrew online and invited him to speak as an expert on their podcast. After andrew died, a journalist gave this recording to the oneschuks. Today we have a light discussion with andrew. Hes an american nationalist who will discuss with me the current overall situation and about the rightwing movement in the usa. Hello, good morning. What is the current state of the nationalist movement in the United States . If you know about the fbi, which is the internal Security Police for the United States, theyve been doing a lot of work turning different nationalist organizations against each other. But do they have any support from the people that allow them to get into the politics of the u. S. . There was a change a little bit with donald trump. Hes the most farright politician that weve had in this country in a very long time. And many people have come out in support of him. So this is pretty standard recruitment right here. Theyre empowering him by putting him on these platforms. Andrew and i both wanted something that we could believe in. I joined the military because i wanted a cause, because i wanted a purpose. Andrew kind of now dfloundered e was like, thats not cool enough, i need to do something edgier. I think he was intercepted. An adult took that 16yearold kid and manipulated him. Twisted him. Absolutely. Thats what the influencers do is they find Vulnerable People and they promise them paradise. Yeah. Azofs interest in a teenager from boston may seem far fetched. But for years ive seen evidence of russian and ukrainian White Nationalists recruiting vulnerable americans drawn to their slick propaganda. Its a frightening pattern thats confirmed by multiple sources. Including atomwaffen member richard. These groups are approaching people to go over to the ukraine and train with the azof battalion. Its not just atomwaffen, its a lot of White Nationalist groups. Jews will not replace us at least one member of the an american hate group charged with inciting violence in charlottesville trained in ukraine with azof battalion. This should scare the hell out of everyone. It means white power extremists are heading overseas for paramilitary training. To bring that experience home. To kick start an american race war. This is not just a problem for the United States. The new zealand gunman who recently murdered 50 muslims wore an azof battalion patch during the attack. This is the same group that tried to recruit 16yearoldn drew oneschuk. He arranged for a hostel in kiev. He bought a fake passport. And he bought a oneway ticket on lufthansa. Sleeping bags, everything, ready to go. Cake in the Conference Room showing em youre ready. To be your own boss. Thats the beauty of your smile. Crests three dimensional whitening. Removes stains,. Whitens inbetween teeth. And protects from future stains. Crest. Healthy, beautiful smiles for life. Heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea. Ausea, vo try new pepto liquicaps for fast relief and ultracoating. flight attendants nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea. vo get powerful relief with new pepto bismol liquicaps. Would shakespeare have chosen just some pens . Methinks a tul pen would serve mlady well. Thanks. And a unicorn notebook get everything on your list. 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Its when Vulnerable People are so desperate to find a sense of identity or purpose that they jump from one extreme group to another. Ideology isnt as important as the desire to belong. In andrew ononeschuks sophomor year of high school, he decided to run away from home and join the neonazi azof battalion in ukraine. Walts up there talking to him and he comes down to the bedroom. Hes crying. And i said, what is going on . And he said, chris, youre not even going to believe this, he bought a oneway ticket on luft hans that, he had a fake passport, he bought a fake passport from ireland, 500 it cost him, because he thought his u. S. Passport may fail. He arranged for a hostel in kiev. He arranged for a limousine to come to the house and pick him up. He flushed the money into his account and out the same day. I never saw it. Hes so smart. Paypal. So he had 250 in cash. And plate carrier. Kevlar plates. Sleeping bag, everything, ready to go. So sad. I mean, i know what a go bag looks like. After the oneschuks discovered andrews plan, they intervened and talked him out of it. But he remained isolated and disconnected, except for online. In august of 2016, i started to hear about this kid jeremy. And i was like, hm. This is kind of nice. You know, andrews fanning out and being social. It was just a sigh of relief. And youre hopeful. Because the last thing you want is to see your kid sitting there with no friends. Before he died he talked to chris. He said, mom, how do you make friends . Did he say that . We went out for dinner together and hes like, mom, tell me i had no idea it was that bad. Yeah. So when you look at it, some of the things that were probably warning signs, alarm bells, we may have disregarded because youre like, oh, okay, you know. Hes branching out, hes doing this. Andrew and Jeremy Himmelman developed a strong bond, and the oneschuks tell me he was a goodhearted kid. What they didnt know is that the boys had actually met on a neonazi website and were now diving deeper into white nationalism. Around this time, racist atomwaffen recruitment posters began popping up on various college campuses. In chicago, florida, virginia, and boston. Boston University Police posted a video of one of the suspects asking for the publics help. The oneschuks knew immediately it was their son. Andrew had finally found a community and a cause to fight for. The Atomwaffen Division. That is something that he had hanging in his room . This was hanging above this futon. And that was when i knew. I was like, this is real. I was like, how do you think this looks from the outside world . Like when i think of evil, this is what its synonymous with. Youre not going to get a job, youre not going to have a future. If this is what you choose, this is it, its all over. And he was just didnt care. But emily, who is now preparing to serve in the u. S. Military, was growing more concerned. I was in my rotc unit. We had an fbi agent come and talk about homegrown violent extremists, hvs. And my best friends sitting next to me and we look at each other, oh my god, this is my brother. I went up to the agent afterwards and i was like, hey, i dont know what to do, i think this lines up with who my brother is. Hes like, well, theres not really anything we can do. Heres my card if you need something. And i was like a response like this just begs the question, are violent White Supremacist Groups like atomwaffen even on the governments radar . Weve got thousands of analysts focused on the threat from radical islam. But whos looking at the threat within . Darrell johnson is a former Homeland Security intelligence expert who drafted a 2009 report cautioning the rise of farright extremism and how it could lead to bloodshed on americas streets. Since 2008 we had a combination of first africanamerican president , which became a recruitment tool for them. But whats really kept this movement going is the fact that there are extremist messages that i once saw on stormfront and other neonazi sites has now been mainstreamed. When you have the person in charge of the country talking about these scenes and making them seem normal but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. It emboldens those on the fringes. I just cannot, cannot understand why were having such a hard time calling it terrorism. The narrative for terrorism is, middle eastern. Brown. Arab people. So when you say that we have people within our own country who are white and they get radicalized, people dismiss it as the act of a kradsed gunman or a hate crime. In 2018, 50 more americans were killed by extremists who all took inspiration from the same farright websites and the same hatefilled source material. And yet the 2019 rand report confirmed that under the trump administration, funding for Homeland Security programs to counter domestic extremism was cut by around 70 . All city units are being sent to an active shooter. Suspects talking about all these jews need to die. All this leaves a wideopen Playing Field for white power influencers like atomwaffens ideological godfather, james mason. A longtime figure in the White Power Movement who debated his apocalyptic world view on radio programs like this one from 1991. Advocating murder and terrorism, youre advocating the violent overthrow of the government. Im telling you whats on the way, bob. Wouldnt do me any good to advocate anything. Its going to happen on its own. No one, no one can stop it. No one. In the apartment where Andrew Oneschuk was murdered, tampa police found atomwaffen fliers that quoted james mason, proof to me of his influence on that group. There was contact with james mason. 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And the White Power Movement is no different. There have always been puppet masters pulling the strings and fueling hatred. When it comes to atomwaffens influences, one name comes up again and again. James mason. A man whose photos blanket their website. Mason was recruited into the American Nazi Party at 14 years old. In 1980, he began publishing newsletters which were ultimately collected into what became a kind of playbook for white supremacists. Siege, by james mason. Siege calls for the use of violence to jump start a race war. Ideas that atomwaffen has adopted as their own. White revolution is the only solution i tracked mason down and found him living in denver, not far from the state capitol. And somewhat to my surprise, he agrees to meet me. Mr. Mason. Christian, how are you . Im good, how are you . Good. Come on in. I read masons writings when i first joined the movement. I never imagined id be seated across from him one day, on opposite sides of a deadly conflict. Atomwaffen is a group that is inspired by your writings. They yeah. How do you feel that the writings that you wrote, even in the 80s that i remember reading yeah. Are out there today still inspiring people to kill other people . Well, now wait a minute. I never said go out and kill anybody. I said, if you if you or anybody else must do this, for gods sake do it right. I found on the that atomwaffen members make pilgrimages to masons apartment to snap fanboy selfies with their hero. And theyre using the internet to make masons vile ideas relevant to a new generation of racists. But i know from experience that no one is radicalized purely by ideology. Everyone has a back story. I was hating school. I was turning very, very much inward. I was alienated. I was angry. You put those two together, and look out. Now my dad had a private arsenal. For each piece he had 1,000 rounds. And i said to myself, well if something doesnt change within a few short days, im going into that office and settle accounts. Youre talking about being a School Shooter . Yes. I was going to be the first. I was going to be the first, yeah. What stopped you . I called party headquarters. Hes talking about the American Nazi Party. They invited mason to join, and that diverted his path from School Shooter and launched his career as a prop bandist. When you discourage one of your follow theres came to you right now, in private, and said, im thinking about doing this . Would you discourage them ive had it happen. Young people. And i said, dont do it, dont do it, youre valuable, we need you. I had sam woodward here. And if he had run that past me id have said, dont do it. In january of 2018, atomwaffen Samuel Woodward stabbed to death a 19yearold Jewish College student named blaze bernstein. Id have said, dont do it. Dont do it, why . Because youre worth far more. What about the persons life who was lost . Im not im not too concerned about that. Im not too concerned. Knowing that there are people like that that are reading your book, that are living out word for word if youre if youve got to do it, make it worthwhile. So somebody like james alex fields, who drove his car into a group of people and murdered a woman, you wouldnt condemn oh, absolutely not, that had to be done. There should have been more. I think somebody should have opened up on that crowd of communists down there and just laid waste to them. He should have accounted for 50 or more. Now hes doing life. For one. One confused, lost and confused white girl who got turned against her own people. Well, i know heather hires mother. She was victimized by the communists no, she was victimized by a nazi. That nazi drove his car and murdered her. James. Youve been doing this for 50 years. 53. 53 years. Are you tired . No. Ive never been more invigorated. Most people dont survive. Theyll either burn out or theyll go to jail or theyll be killed. But i survived. I survived. James mason has survived, by living like a coward. Staying in the background while inspiring others to bloody their hands and commit violence. I cant stop him from spreading more propaganda. What i can do is hold him accountable and try to prevent more atomwaffen recruits like richard from falling prey to it. We dried one shirt without bounce, and an identical shirt using bounce. The bounce shirt has fewer wrinkles, less static, and more softness and freshness. Bounce out wrinkles, bounce out static. And here we have another burst pipe in denmark. If you look close. Jamie, are there any interesting photos from your trip . Ouch, okay. Huh, boring, boring, you dont need to see that. Oh, here we go. Can you believe my client steig had never heard of a home and auto bundle or that renters could bundle . Wait, youre a lawyer . Only licensed in stockholm. What is happening . 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First he tried to join azofs battalion but then found atomwaffen online. But putting up hate posters didnt make him a warrior and thats what he really wanted. In autumn of 2016 andrews search for the right fit took another drastic turn. He flew to paris and enlisted in the French Foreign legion. The French Foreign legion is builtup as this true mans military. Andrews fellow legionnaires didnt understand why he joined. Youre a u. S. Kid. Why dont you join the u. S. Military . Something about what these professional soldiers said had an impact so andrew faked an injury and returned home. Andrew was a different person when he came back from the legion. There are lessons he learned there that he had to go through it. So he comes back and andrew is apologizing. He said im really sorry for what ive put you guys through. And he said i didnt realize that my beliefs would bring me all these negative things. And then he said if you hear me saying something or doing something thats sending me down the wrong road, please tell me because id like to fix it. I dont know where the people that youve dealt with, if theres like this epiphany or this point where its the tipping point, but atomwaffen had taken a back seat at that point and he was looking at where do i go now . Andrew decided to follow in the footsteps of his father and sister and enlist in the United States navy. But before signing on he made a fateful choice to accept a summer job in florida with his good friend jeremy himalman. Andthality meant sharing an apartment with the old atomwaffen crew. Brandon russell and devin arthers. Andrew and jeremys text thread tells me they had mixed feelings about the trip. Once andrew arrived in tampa tensions began to rise between the roommates. We had talked to andrew on wednesday and he said im ready to get out of here. Devon arthers has converted to islam and hes spouting off all this stuff. Isis stuff. He was listening to jihadist videos. Andrew was frustrated. Hed only been down there for a week and a half. Andrew told his parents devon and branden tore down an American Flag he had hung on the wall and were using it as a doormat. So why dont you get out of there now . He said, no, i signed up for this job for two weeks. It was a temp job. Temp job. Devon came in and surprised them and shot both of them. It was like two days, you know, a difference in a life was two days. Two years ago on may 19, 2017, andrew was murdered. After spending a year in a psychiatric facility his alleged killer, devon arthers is in jail awaiting trial and brandon russell, the leader of atomwaffen is serving a 5year prison sentence convicted on charges of Unlawful Possession of explosives. Recently facebook announced a zerotolerance policy for white nationalism. Google which owns youtube and twitter are also taking steps to limit hateful content. But for andrew its too late. Because of what happened andrew onus chuck will always be Different Things to different people. For some hes a nazi who deserved to die but for others hes remembered as a happy little boy, a brother who planned to serve his country and a hardworking son who will never finish the tree house he was building with his father. When i think about andrew losing his life at 18 years old, it reminds me i didnt leave the White Power Movement until i was 22. Andrew onus chuck will never have the opportunity that i did to become a better man. But the hope is i can get to others and break the hate before it turns deadly. Thats my goal with richard. Are you denouncing what you were part of . Yeah, i denounce it fully. Im not going to sugar coat it. I dont know that anybody including myself is going to believe you unless youre willing to put in the hard work. Of course not. For richard, the hard work will begin when i set him up with a therapist and family counselor. Hell need to confront some deeply held beliefs and make amends for the harm hes caused to his family and the community. Are you concerned about your wellbeing now that youve decided to break from it . Im more concerned for my family than anything else. Atomwaffen had so much hatred that they just want to direct it anywhere they can. You know, going into this i was skeptical and i still have concerns about whether hes genuine or not. But i could hear in his voice, you know, that he was afraid. Hes walking away from people who not only want to violently murder their enemies but are also willing to murder their own. Im willing to help you. Part of what i do is i dont judge. I just help. Thank you. Since i started working with richard, ive received emails from two more atomwaffen members who want out. I plan on helping them, too. I think you need to sit down and talk to somebody about that because because the more we push these people away, the closer they come to crossing a line. 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