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Propped up on to the bed. Even law enforcement, they thought what do we have on our hands here. Theres growing danger because police are looking in the wrong place. I lived to tell, and nobody believed me. This monster is walking free while theyre wasting their time on me. Can the killer be caught before he kills again . It makes you realize how fragile your life is. And that anybody can take it. Welcome to dateline. A killer was on the loose in a Texas College town leaving students and their parents terrified. With the shocking discovery of jamie harts body, investigators were desperately trying to piece together clues. Was the young woman connected to her killer, or did police have an active predator on their hands . Heres Andrea Canning with the face of evil. Looking back now, this woman almost didnt make it. I said, if you keep doing this, youre going to kill me. And he just said, do you think i actually care about that . Is that when you feel like youre looking in the face of evil . I knew then completely until that in a moment that he intended on killing me. Little did she know that in this college town she wasnt the only one. He said that he would go to jail for in order before hed ever go to jail for rape. What issing there through your mind . I wish that i had told all the people that i loved that i loved them. But was their private horror connected to a very public mystery . Everyones saying, what is going on in this community . It had people asking whats going to happen next. More women connected by tragedy and by questions. Could a killer have been stopped sooner . I was so angry that two people had to die in order for someone to believe me. The story begins in a small texas town, but its not just any town. This is College Station, home to texas a m. And in 1999, home to 21yearold student jamie hart. I was immediately struck with her beauty. Chuck cruz was her boyfriend at the time. He says jamie was the light of his life. He remembers when he first laid eyes on her. I could barely speak when i saw her, she was so pretty. It was like when the color came on in the wizard of oz. I had been living in a dark world, and she showed me a world full of color. And she was a loyal friend. Funny, outspoken. She would tell you exactly what was on her mind at all times. It was early one morning in may, jamies roommates couldnt find her. They called chuck. I got a call asking if i knew where she was. I said, no, she didnt come over here last night. I dont know where she is. I hadnt talked to her the night before. And i went to work. Reporter that same morning, detective elliott of the brazos Sheriffs Office was summoned. There was a girl in her 20s, she was nude and had extensive road rash on her entire body and was deceased. Reporter a jogger spotted the victim in a ditch on the side of the road. I arrived. There was probably half a dozen officers here. They had taped off the area, blocked traffic. At that point we started conducting a search of the area. We figured that she had been sexually assaulted and dumped here. Less than a mile away, deputies discovered what was presumed to be the womans clothing strewn across the entrance to an oil field. Another nine miles from there, an abandon wanted vehicle. Its engine still running. There was blood on the car, and that raised suspicion. We sent a team over to process the car. Reporter and inside the car, a drivers license that belonged to jamie hart. When detectives showed up at chucks workplace that afternoon, he says his heart sank. When they told me that she had been found dead, it felt like id been hit by a truck. Reporter wow. So your sense of dread was right reporter coming true . Realized. Fully realized. Reporter did fear spread throughout the campus . Oh yes. It was frontpage news. Reporter Kristin Lancaster was a 19yearold freshman. My brother actually worked with jamie at the time. Ill never forget him coming home devastated. Reporter a killer in a college town is terrifying. Very much so, yes. This is something that happens in chicago. Its something that happens in houston. Its not something that happens in Brian College station in aggie land. Reporter kelly brown is editor of the eagle, the local newspaper. I think people were hoping this was a drifter that kept on going because of the location of her body. Reporter sheriffs deputies can vapsed the crime scene can vansed the crime scene, searched the car and talked to eyewitnesses. Talked to several hundred people, and no one seen anything. Reporter turns out there were no fingerprints inside the car. But during an autopsy, the medical examiner did recover dna from jamies body which likely came from her rapist and killer. Did you put the dna into a data base . We put it in cocodis. Reporter any hits . None. Reporter no fingerprints or dna matches of. The investigation wasnt off to a good start. Thats when we started contacting people at her place of employment, friends, roommates. Reporter did she have any enemies . Everybody seemed to love her. Reporter detective elliott began to retrace jamies steps on the night of the murder. She was taking time off from her sti study at texas a m and was worked the night of the murder. We contacted everybody that she delivered piazzas to, and nothing out of the ordinary. Reporter after work she headed to a friends. She said they were watching movies and left around 4 30 in the morning. We got the call at 7 15 a. M. Between 4 30 a. M. And 7 00. Reporter the male friend, a college student, was the last known person to see jamie alive. The detective paid him a visit. He was upset obviously. They were friends and had been for some time. Reporter the friends grief seemed genuine, but something was peculiar. When investigators asked for a dna sample he said no. Reporter no . Of course we wanted to know why. Was he the killer, or was he not . Reporter the detective was determined to answer that question, so he put the young man under surveillance, followed him to a local restaurant. And are you hidden somewhere . Im back in a corner, yeah. Reporter he watched the student have a few drinks, and when he left, the detectives snagged the dirty beer mugs and sent them out for dna testing. The results would take weeks, leaving a town full of young people on edge. Dads and moms were telling their collegeaged kids, be alert everywhere you go. Go with people when you go out. Dont be alone. And thats a frightening order to give anybody. Reporter frightening but sound advice because in this case, connecting the dots wouldnt be so easy. Detectives have a second possible suspect in their sights jamess boyfriend is invited to sit down for a polygraph test. Coming up failed the test. Reporter thats a bad sign for you, right . Bad sign for him. 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So i got some stuff together and drove down as soon as i could, and i spent most of the next week with them, mourning with the family, and then acting as a pallbearer for her funeral. Back in College Station, detective kenny elliot was working the case. Any time you have a killer out on the run, its frustrating. You want to catch the person responsible. One possible suspect, that male friend jamie visited the night of her murder. He had refused to give police a dna sample for testing. Thats kind of odd, if he had nothing to hide. A lot of people will not give up dna. Too much tv. But the detective had snagged a sample from a beer mug, and when the dna finally came back, he was not a match. You felt confident that you could rule him out based on the dna not matching . Yes. But even before the dna test cleared jamies friend, the detective was already looking for other suspects, and his attention quickly landed on someone very close to the victim, her boyfriend. The questions that they asked focused on where was i the night before, what had i been doing. Looking at you as a possible suspect . It didnt really occur to me that that was what they were doing. I just thought they were asking for information. Chuck told the detective that before jamie was killed, he hadnt seen her for two days. On the night of the murder, he said he was at home. I was playing Computer Games like a good nerd. Did you have anyone there to corroborate your alibi . I think my roommates were there, but they were both asleep. I had nobody right there sitting there with me. So the boyfriends alibi wasnt solid. And as they spoke, the detective was looking carefully for signs he might be hiding something. He was cooperative. Apprehensive. He said everything was fine in their relationship. The detective asked chuck for dna, and he said yes. And when they asked him for a polygraph, he agreed to that, too. But heres the thing with that last part, the polygraph. Failed the test. Thats a bad sign for you, right . Its a bad sign for him, yes. Didnt tell you that hes guilty, but it he was a very strong person of interest. And whats more, the detective had been speaking with jamies friends who said the relationship wasnt fine. In fact, the couple had a fight and were on the verge of a breakup. All of which just led to more questions. Basically, went over every aspect of the relationship. Just questioned him on his whereabouts. Tried to get him to confess. And if a failed polygraph wasnt suspicious enough, then listen to what the detective says chuck told him next. He said he had done some bad things, and wouldnt tell us what. Did you look him in the eyes and say is one of those bad things killing jamie hart . I did. He denied it. At that point in time, i really thought he could be our killer. And the more you started to think he was the killer, how does he react to that . He was very nervous. He just acted like he was guilty. Chuck was free to go. But as authorities waited for his dna to be processed, the detective developed a theory of the crime that made sense to him. He was in love with her, he didnt want to lose her, and they were having some issues in their relationship. So the boyfriend, a likely suspect, was in the cross hairs, but when the dna results came back the dna was not a match. So were you able to rule out chuck cruz then once you got that dna check . I didnt rule him out completely, no. That was enough for you with the friend who she was with the night before. You ruled him out after you got the dna, correct . I did. The other guy wasnt her boyfriend. He hadnt flunked polygraphs. He wasnt in a bad relationship with her. Chuck was. But they didnt arrest chuck. Months went by. And the detective kept investigating him. Authorities seized his computer, searched his car. All the while, chuck was saying they were looking at the wrong guy. Theres a lot of people that wont confess to a murder for obvious reasons. At that point, he was a person of a strong person of interest, but i still didnt know if he was my killer, so we continued the search. The investigation dragged on. Life for the students on campus began to go back to normal. Parties every weekend. But when police were called to the scene of one house party, it wasnt because of noise or underage drinking. Another woman was in a fight for her life. Coming up a student at a party ends up a prisoner in a strangers apartment. Hey, who are you . Oh, hey jeff, im a car thief. What . im here to steal your car because, well, thats my job. What . What . . What . laughing what . . What . what . [crash] what . haha, it happens. And if youve got cutrate Car Insurance, paying for this could feel like getting robbed twice. So get allstate. And be better protected from mayhem. Like me. .  a Business Owner always goes beyond what people expect. 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A loaf of bread. The grocery sacker had put a cantaloupe on a loaf of bread. And she was upset that the sacker had squished the bread. And i told her it wasnt that big of a deal. And we had picked our sides. And we argued about something as stupid as a loaf of bread. And now he says he could hardly grieve with police breathing down his neck. Whats it like waking up every morning and knowing that youre under a cloud of suspicion . Incredibly depressing. He left College Station and moved home to be near his family in dallas who spent money to hire a defense attorney. The biggest thing that was going through my mind the whole time was that i didnt do it. They dont know who did it. And the guy who did it is out Walking Around and likely to prey on more victims. This monster is walking free while theyre wasting their time on me. Kelly brown of the eagle newspaper was writing front page stories about the unsolved crime in the college town. And it really shook the community, because this is an area that isnt used to seeing this type of crime. And kelly was hearing talk that the police had a suspect. But there was no arrest, and thats what kept everybody saying well, then, okay, was it the boyfriend . Was it, you know, someone thats still out there . Is he going to strike again . It was scary, of course, and students like Kristen Lancaster followed the investigation. Did people change their behavior patterns because of this crime . To a certain degree, but i think it was shortlived. I mean, people went back to their classes and their business. You start rationalizing, maybe you know, she trusted the wrong person. She trusted the wrong person. This doesnt happen to you. Exactly, yeah. And then, it was late october, half a year since the murder of jamie hart. Kristen didnt know it yet, but she was about to become part of a chain of events that only deepened the mystery. I think maybe i went to classes that day. Im not exactly sure. I know that the evening time rolled around. I think, was it a friday . A friend invited kristen to a party. She said well, you know, im having a little gettogether at my house. Why dont you come by . Kristen drove over to the apartment complex in bryan, texas. Thats the town next to College Station. The door is open. Theres a few people inside. Theres some music playing and people having some drinks. She struck up a conversation with her friends upstairs neighbor. He was 24, hadnt been to college, but mixed in easily with the students. Was he kind of a likable guy . He seemed very likable. Yeah. He was very approachable. Seemed very nice. In fact, he had no problem sharing intimate details with kristen about his personal life. He had been married, and somehow the conversation, you know, goes into him telling me how he had found god. I made a lot of mistakes. I wasnt a great husband. You guys got into quite the personal conversation for having just met. Oh, yeah. Well, i mean, i was young, and i think that was normal, and he was drunk. Not long after the party started, it abruptly ended. Kristens friend, hosting the party, got into a fight with her boyfriend. There was alcohol involved. It was a worry that it would get out of hand. Everyone left, but not kristen. She was concerned about her friend and stuck around talking to the upstairs neighbor. So you were feeling protective . Yeah. He actually said to me, he said, youre worried about your friend . I said, yes, i am. He said, you can go to my apartment and you can be close to your friend to call. She and the neighbor walked up the staircase to his apartment. Its directly above her apartment. And he opens the door, and i was barely a step into the door, and he just sort of pushes me and slams the door shut. He locks the door. And immediately grabs a remote that was right there, and turns the stereo up to this deafening volume. Just deafening. Kristen reached for the door to leave. And he pushes me back. Thats when he starts making some demands. All of a sudden, its very serious and aggressive. And i was almost at the point where i thought he was joking. But he was serious. Demanded she undress. I kept arguing, im not going to do that. Im not going to do that. He says youre going to do it. Thats when he runs over and he grabs me by the throat. Hes choking me and choking me. And the second he lets up, i scream, as loud as i can. Immediately he grabs me and starts choking me again. And this time, he picks me up almost by the throat and sort of like pulls me back into the bedroom thats in the back. Youre a prisoner in this apartment now. Yes. And he puts me on the mattress. And this is the first time i black out. I wondered if for a second this was it. I could die . Yeah. Hes like did his hand is still on my threat and he started shaking me. Kristen couldnt fight him off physically, so she tried to talk her way out of a Sexual Assault. I said, you dont want to do this. And he stops. And he looks at me and he says why dont i want to do this . And i say, well, because i have hiv. And you can tell hes thinking about it for a second. And he says to me, well, guess what, so do i. The lie didnt work. She tried something else. I was like, well, what about finding god and trying to work on yourself . I actually was able to stall him for quite some time. I must have gotten off the bed and we were standing talking. And i remember thats when i started to stomp my foot. And i was sort of, like, trying to make it look like i was making a point and stomping my foot. And then he grew angry again. He threw her back on the bed. His grip on her neck tighter as he sexually assaulted her. Hes squeezing so hard at this point in time that it felt like the bones in my throat were cracking. I said, if you keep doing this, youre going to kill me. 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Months after one woman was raped and killed in a Texas College town, a second woman was under attack in a nearby community. Kristen lancaster was certain the map meant to kill her. What seemed like an end turned out to be the beginning of a fierce fight for the truth. Back with the face of evil. Heres Andrea Canning. 19yearold Kristen Lancaster was preparing to die. When youre possibly in the last moments of your life, when you think that someone is going to kill you, what is going through your mind . I had a moment where i thought about, i wish i told all the people that i loved that i loved them. She was in a strangers apartment being sexually assaulted, drifting in and out of consciousness. I black out. But then i start to come to again. And its you know the scenes in the movies where the bombs explode and everythings really fuzzy. You cant hear. Like everythings like coming through this fog. Suddenly, the man stood up and left the room. Ordered her to remain quiet. And i scream as loud as i can, call the police, call the police. Turns out, the bryan police were at the door. So my friend had heard me screaming and stomping and had called the police. This is like a miracle. It was, yeah. In the nick of time, the police show up. That only happens on tv. I know. Believe me, i know. They ran in. I was curled in a fetal position on the floor. Just shaking uncontrollably. And i remember them asking me what happened. And i just the words were just coming out so fast. The cops took the man away in handcuffs and kristen slept on her friends couch that night. The friend called police to see what would happen next. She found out they didnt book him for Sexual Assault charges. In fact, kristens attacker, the man she said almost killed her, had been released. That must have been a tough pill to swallow. It was terrifying. I thought he was going to come and find me and kill me. Down at the police station, different version of events. Eric buskey is the current bryan police chief. He wasnt with the department back then, but says the suspect told investigators that he and kristen had a fight over drugs. She got angry when he substituted aspirin for cocaine, and she went off in a rage when that occurred. I think he told them some story about how it had been the drug deal that had gone bad, and so i was crying rape. After the attack, Police Charged him with unlawful restraint, a misdemeanor. The next day, kristen and her dad went to the Bryan Police Department to find out why her attacker wasnt charged with something more serious. I was furious. Because i had thought in this moment that i survived, i survived. This is it. This guy is going down. She met with a detective who asked her questions. Lots of them. I had bruises all up and down my throat. I couldnt swallow. And then at one point in time, the detective asked me to place my hands on my own throat. Which even then, like, psychologically that was even traumatizing. Why would he want you to do that . Because he looks at me and says, well, those could have been selfinflicted. What did you say to the detective whos coming up with these theories . I was hysterically crying and telling him, this man tried to kill me. You know . And he would just say, well thats not what he says. Of course thats not what he says. Kristen says that despite her bruises, police treated it like a he said she said story. How angry were you getting . I was furious. I just couldnt believe, like nobody believed me. Chief buske maintains the detective was just doing a thorough investigation. Everything ive read indicated that detectives did believe her. Sometimes when youre conducting an investigation, your job is to get to the truth as a detective, and youre going to have to ask some hard questions. They interviewed her attacker again and, a few months later, did charge him with Sexual Assault. The unlawful restraint was still in place, and we booked him on first degree Sexual Assault. The case went to a grand jury, but it decided not to indict him. So the Sexual Assault charges were dropped because they felt that there was insufficient evidence. That must have been tough to hear that. It was very tough to hear that. And it was at a point in time that when i found that out, i just i didnt feel like i had any recourse. She did talk about the case later with reporter kelly brown. It bothered me at the time because i wondered, why didnt the grand jury indict him for at least attempted Sexual Assault . But it seemed a little troubling to me that, what were we missing . What part of the story did we not have . Did the detective Say Something that made them think maybe it was consensual . He was still facing the misdemeanor charge of unlawful restraint, scheduled to go to court down the road. In the meantime, he was a free man. Hes out Walking Around. Hes out Walking Around. In the next town over, detectives at the brazos county Sheriffs Office were still working the jamie hart murder case. In addition to keeping an eye on jamies boyfriend chuck, they say they followed up on hundreds of other leads and tips. But no one in that department looked at kristens case for a possible connection. You were sexually assaulted. Jamie hart was sexually assaulted. Did you start to think that these could be connected . I didnt think they were connected. And that was primarily because with jamie, was that there was a boyfriend that may have been involved. And it was a romantic relationship that went wrong. It wasnt some random occurrence by a stranger. Kristen was now living with overwhelming anxiety and dread, which she says manifested into dangerous behavior. Instead of being afraid of everything, i became afraid of nothing. I, you know, i just became completely riskseeking. What kind of things would you do . I think i started drinking heavily for a while after that. Id hop on the back of a strangers motorcycle after he had had three beers. And it took a long time to really get out of that hole. Just as kristen was starting to turn a corner, her attacker was due in court on that misdemeanor charge. But nothing came of it. He didnt even show up. I had done what i needed to do. And part of me just wanted to forget it ever happened. But she couldnt. Kristen was about to walk right into another crime scene in College Station. Coming up a shockingly brutal murder, and the suspect makes a big mistake. The clothing he was wearing was different than what he just told us. Told us. You wouldnt accept an incomplete job from any one else. Why accept it from your allergy pills . Flonase sensimist relieves all your worst symptoms, including nasal congestion, which most pills dont. And all from a gentle mist you can barely feel. Flonase sensimist. You can barely feel. Thyou know what i do instead . Eny your cravings. I snack on blue diamond almonds. 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So the brazos county Sheriffs Office kept investigating chuck, even communicated with the d. A. About possibly convening a grand jury. Chuck and his lawyer spoke to the detective on many occasions, and the detective continued to think chucks behavior was suspicious. And that he still seemed nervous. Did you ever think that maybe the reason that chuck cruz was acting this way was that you guys were coming down pretty hard on him, and hes lost his girlfriend. I mean, is there a way to act . I dont know, but he had several things going against him, and we just couldnt walk away from him. We either had to prove that he did it or prove that he didnt do it. But chuck says he should have been cleared almost right away. So even though the dna didnt match there was no match but they insisted on targeting me as the prime suspect. They were trying to build a case that wasnt there. While chucks life had been on hold for a year, kristen was starting to feel like her old self again. In the six months since her attack, she had taken up running, had a new boyfriend, and though kristen hoped the pain of that horrible night was behind her for good, it wasnt. Theres police tape everywhere. May 28th, 2000. Kristen had just arrived to visit friends at an apartment complex. There was no reason, not then anyway, to think her case was connected to the scene unfolding there. Police cars and ambulances and all kinds of vehicles, Emergency Response vehicles everywhere. And now the site of police tape sent memories rushing back. It was just, you know, fear. Firefighter leon moore had arrived at the apartment complex early that morning after a neighbor reported smoke in one of the units. The bedroom door was open, and we could see some flames that were on the carpet. So we had a water extinguisher that we used and put the small fire out. There on the floor, a body. We backed out and made sure that we preserved as much evidence as we could. He sensed foul play, not just a fire, and called for detective jeff capps of the College Station Police Department. It looked like her body had been kind of propped up onto the bed. She was nude from the waist down. This is really disturbing. It was. The victim was 21yearold Carolyn Casey, a daycare worker. Her parents anita and larry, so proud of their eldest daughter. She was wonderful with kids. All the kids loved her. Everyone loved her. Never could they have prepared themselves for the dreadful phone call they received. Is your daughter Carolyn Casey . I said yes. And i think he said, well, theres been an accident, and your daughter is dead. A fire. When carolyns younger sister amanda learned the news, she collapsed with grief. I just i screamed really loud. Made my ears ring from my screaming. Theyve got this wrong . Yeah. Somethings wrong. She didnt die. I said no, shes not dead. What was the turning point . I called her apartment. She didnt answer. Detective capps did say it was homicide. I think we had a strong feeling that possibly there was some type of Sexual Assault that occurred, and somebody was trying to cover up some evidence. Kelly brown of the eagle newspaper had another story to write. This is a community thats not used to a lot of murders. Its not used to Violent Crimes like this, and it certainly wasnt used to having a murder victim be set on fire. Even law enforcement, they thought, what do we have on our hands here . On the night of carolyns murder, there had been a small party in one of the apartments. And now the detective was canvassing the complex, looking for leads. So youre literally knocking on doors. Yes. In one unit, two men answered. One of them had been to the party. His name was Ynobe Matthews. He mentioned that he did attend this party. She was there. Like many people who had attended, ynobe agreed to an interview, his down at the Police Department. He was friendly and cooperative. Said carolyn had left the party before he had. He later left the party. Went with another female that was at the party over to a Convenience Store that was close by and bought some cigarettes. Ynobe gave the detective a dna sample and supplied the clothes he had been wearing. To verify his alibi, the detective pulled Surveillance Video from the Convenience Store, and noticed something. The clothing that he was actually wearing was different than what he had just told us, and why is he not telling us the truth . Ynobe claimed he had simply forgotten, and then handed the detective the proper clothing. No forensic evidence found on the clothes connected him to the crime scene. So this wasnt your big moment. No, it wasnt. The big moment did come, though, just a few nights later when the pieces of this puzzle finally came together. Coming up an arrest of a familiar suspect. I didnt think he would do it again. Ould do it again. Re eczema, or atopic dermatitis. 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Were you really about to get it that quickly . We werent going to get it that quickly that day. But trying to get him to believe that we had that information, that we had everything that we needed. I had contacted my supervisor earlier. I told him if he would page me, just say type in the words that says his dna matches. And right on cue, the detectives pager went off. And i showed it to mr. Matthews and asked him to read it. It said dna matches. So whats his face like when he looks at that match . He became pretty emotional. And he said, it was an accident, but he had killed her. The detective called carolyns parents and gave them the news of the confession. They said, i think we got him. I said well, how sure . He said, ill bet the farm on it. It was the next morning when Kristen Lancaster opened up the newspaper and learned her attacker had been charged with murder. I felt overwhelming guilt. Just overwhelming guilt knowing that he had killed someone, and that, you know, perhaps i hadnt tried hard enough to make people believe me. Did you feel like a life could have been saved if you had been taken more seriously . Oh, yes. Carolyn would still be here. I mean, theres no doubt. And what about the woman at the start of our story . Jamie harts case had been handled by the brazos county Sheriffs Office. But after ynobe was arrested, it didnt take long for the College Station Police Department and the Sheriffs Office to compare the dna. What they found, ynobe was also jamies killer. Whats that moment like . I remember the feeling of wanting to feel relieved, but all i could think was, this is exactly what i knew was going to happen. He struck again. Another girl is dead. And another family has lost their precious daughter. Chuck says to this day he misses jamie and has never gotten over being viewed as a suspect. Having to spend such a long time under investigation for the death of a loved one, it hurts. Its like a scar. Very much so. Very much so. Do you feel bad at all, that he was put through that . Sorry he had to go through that. If i had to do the investigation over, i wouldnt change anything. Sorry he lost the love of his life. We had to either arrest him for murder or clear him. We cleared him. But before jiem me, before kristen, before carolyn, there was another victim who soon learned she was also connected to this horrifying series of events. Her name is misty johnson. If i didnt let him rape me, he would have killed me. Like kristen, misty reported her attack to the brian brooiian Police Department. But he denied it and claimed it was consensual. Misty was too traumatized to help with the investigation. Within a week i quit my job and left town. I was scared. She regregts that decision, her attack happened first. Months before jamie was murdered. I feel like if i would have stayed and fought him through the Police Department, that possibly he wouldnt have been able to go on to hurt anyon memory of an assault that according to the law never really happened. I was so angry that two people had to die in order for someone to believe me. Did the system fail . It failed me, kafrl lynn and jamie. Do you think about them a lot . Theyre strangers to you. Theyre my alternative future. Theyre what could have happened to me. A jury convicted matthews of carolyns murder and sentenced him to death. He also pleaded guilty to jamies murder. Kristen faced him in court during the penalty face. It was terrifying. I had to testify. I met carolyn and jamies family. They came out and gave me a hug. Kristen should have no guilt over that. With the casey family as witnesses, matthews was executed three years later. If there is a lesson to take from this story, it is one that comes directly from a survivor herself, someone who has learned the hard way to cherish lifes moments, each and every one. It makes you realize how fragile your life is and that anybody can take it in a moments notice. The story for them, thats it. Thats their life story. The final chapter has been written. For me, i get to keep going on. What would you call yourself . People have called me a survivor. I would call myself lucky. Thats all for this edition of dont let the democrats take it away from us. Cant come in, im sorry. The former president back in the spotlight with a message for the future. There are a lot more people like you out there who would rather build than tear things down and would rather bring people together than split them apart. Its a marriage made in