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MSNBCW Dateline May 12, 2019

This wife and mom taken hostage. Was she really a hostage at all . Their relationship was not one of kidnapper and victim. It was one of husband and wife. His prisoner or his lover . I really do love you. Sounds like a pretty heartfelt love letter. Now, she tells her story for the very first time. Will you believe her . Let us know on the dateline chat i was fighting for my life. Welcome to dateline, everyone, on april 4, 2005, a texas county sheriff near the louisiana border heard there might be a fugitive in his area. I received a telephone call from a local texas ranger. The call led sheriff Newton Johnson and his deputies 65 miles from the nearest big city to a rundown mobile home on a chicken farm. The home of a couple calling themselves richard and samantha deal. If you wanted to hide, is this a good place to do it . Well, if a person keeps a very low profile, a person could stay out of circulation for a while, yes. But the deals had been farmhands here for years until the law descended on their home. What did he say . I knew you were coming, i just didnt know when. Agents found mrs. Deal working on another farm just down the road. What shape did she seem to be in . Fine. The men were placed in handcuffs, a routine arrest. It turned out the rest of the story was anything but. Thats because richard and samantha deal were not husband and wife at all but instead the oddest of odd couples. His real name was randolph dial, an escaped convict and selfconfessed hitman, claimed to have mob connections, and who also happened to be a talented artist and a relentless schemer. The whole idea after you get it is one way or another do your best to get out. The woman, her real name was bobbi parker, a schoolteacher. The wife of the deputy warden at the prison where he had escaped. Bobbis friend, Brenda Hickerson she was amazing person. She had her life with her family. She volunteered everywhere, at school. What kept these two together for more than a decade was a sensational mystery back in 2005. For 1 years the womans husband never gave up hope. Escaped prisoner randolph dial a woman missing for more than a decade suddenly discovered everyone was talking. Was it a prison break and kidnapping . Was bobbi parker a hostage . There was no doubt in my mind that she had been kidnapped by this man. Or was she a partner in crime and maybe much more than that. I said, are you all right . She said, yes, im fine, im happy. The case would ultimately make its way to a courtroom. But in all that time, the one person who has never talk sudden bobbi parker herself. That is until tonight. Nothing made sense, nothing. If you had to pick a woman to star in a sensational true crimes story, you probably wouldnt pick bobbi parker. I grew up on a farm in North Central kansas. I had a normal childhood. A normal upbringing. Bobbi went to college in oklahoma where she caught the eye of randy parker. She had a way about her, the way she carried herself, the way she talked, the way she laughed. There was something really special about her. He had a balance in his life. He was good for me. He he gave me confidence. He added to my life. It just worked. They married in 1982 and within four years had two little girls. Bobbi was a teacher and randy worked in corrections. At one point they worked in the same prison. Randy in administration and bobbi teaching inmates with special needs. Beginning of the day we walked in together. At the end of the day we walked out together. Bobbi of bobbi was named teacher of the year and randy moved up quickly. He was named deputy warden at the Oklahoma State reformatory. In a tiny town called granite. Bobbi and randy lived on prison grounds, just outside the wall. What was life like in granite . It slowed down for me and my family a little bit. But it was it was good. If there wasnt much happening in granite, inside the prison it was the opposite. There was a new warden determined to shake things up. His name jack cowley. I didnt set behind my desk a lot. I was out in the yard with the guys. I let inmates call me jack. And one inmate that got cowleys attention, randolph dial. He was an unforgettable character. Intelligent, manipulative, a quick study, meaning that i wasnt going to have any trouble with him. We hit it off. Dial of one of the most illustrious and infamous inmates in oklahoma back then. A murderer who confessed to killing a karate instructor for money. Told me to get off of his property. And i pulled a piece out and fired once. Yet dial was also an accomplished artist, one of his pieces was featured on the set of the old series dallas. He had all these plans wanting to do something with his art. I wanted to promote the institution in inmates. The warden decided to start an art program where inmates would make pottery to. Is dial would run it from the remarkers garage. In order to do this, he would have to be allowed outside the wall. In order to do that, he had to have his security clear an lowered to minimum security status. Right. Right. What did you know about him . I knew that he was a murderer. He made that clear to everybody. He was said to be very charming, charismatic. Im not sure who put that out. You didnt find him charming or charismatic . No. With time on her hands, bobbi helped sell pottery and learned ceramics. He started in the garage. I told him i would prefer it out front. Why did you not want to learn it in the garage . I wasnt comfortable. With him . Yes. Its never good to be one on one with an inmate. It never is. Nevertheless, she once drove dial into town by herself to meet shopkeepers. A trip she says was okd by warden cowley. Did it strike you as odd that you were given permission to take a convicted murderer off the prison grounds . Yes, yes. Not long after that, one hot august morning, bobbi parkers life turned upside down. I just remember being woozy not feeling good. Thinking i was going to be sick. Then it was shortly later then dial was in front of me. Dial, the convicted murderer, was in her home. I remember thinking what are you doing in here, but then it happened so quickly. He was there holding me up, then my legs went out from under me. The next thing bobbi says she remembers is waking up and well, it doesnt make a lot of sense. She was somehow driving somewhere in texas. She says dial was crouched on the floor, pointing a knife at her. I had blood on my arm and on my leg. By that evening, bobbis husband randy and the whole prison began to realize bobbi was missing, along with convicted killer randolph dial. What did you imagine had happened . Everything from her being kidnapped to her being killed. Everything that was bad. Had bobbi parker been kidnapped . When we come pack, inside her decadelong drama. 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Blood on my arm, on my leg. And dial wanted to get those covered. He took me to a store, bought a few items, and i was able to make a phone call. Later, some would find it odd bobbi called her mother, not her husband at the prison. She says she was happy to be calling anyone. Making a phone call to me of a good thing because i was hoping it could be traced. Back in granite, bobbis husband randy was coming to terms with the fact that his wife was missing and so was a convicted murderer. Its just mindnumbing, just to get through the day. You know, make sure the girls are doing okay. The parker girls were 8 and 11. I just told them the truth. Shes missing. Shes gone. They were devastated. The community was devastated. Yellow ribbons, prayer vigils, and a huge manhunt ensued. Dial was on the most wanted list. Bobbi said she was in a texas motel at the mercy of randolph dial. He bound my wrist. He bound my ankles. And he beat me with a his belt. It was a very severe beating. Very severe. What i remember him saying is, this is nothing compared to what the people i know can and will do to you. What did he say he would do if you tried to get away . He would find me or my family and he would harm them, kill them. By this time they ditched her van. She says dial, who claimed to have mob connections, managed to get hold of some cash and a gun. He put it to my head, and he said, this is what happens if you dont cooperate. And i just i nodded. I wanted to get home. Instead, they boarded a bus for houston where she says dial locked her in an abandoned apartment, tied her up, and forced alcohol and drugs on her. He has complete control over everything, everything. Hes feeding you . Uhhuh. Bathing you . Yeah. Cleaning me. Having his way with you sexually when he wants . By instrumentation, yes. Meaning . By objects. Rape by instrumentation. It is a violent act. It degrades you. It embarrasses you. Humiliates you. It messes with you mentally. Days passed, then weeks, then months. Time just ran together. I didnt know always what day of the week it was. It didnt matter. Eight months after bobbis disappearance, in april, 1995, the Federal Building in Oklahoma City was bombed. The fbi focused its resources on that case. The hunt for randolph dial and bobbi parker long since cold was quietly back burnered. Every time id hear of a body being found, you know, id hold my breath and wait. But i just wouldnt accept she was dead. By now, bobbi and dial were working on a small farm in east texas. Dial calling himself richard deal and introducing bobbi as his wife samantha. To survive i became samantha. Who was samantha deal . She was lonely, hurt. And trying to make it day by day, minute to minute. When you would approach another human being, did you want to just shout out, im being held against my will, get me out of here . I became fearful if i did something that was not approved. The revenge of dial was great. Dial seemed ever more confident. In 1997 after three years on the lam, he started a Pottery Company called terra cotta gardens. Dial advertised it on the radio, did an interview on the radio. Unbelievably, the attention led to an invitation for the fugitive killer to speak at a womens luncheon at a local country club. Near and dear to my heart where were you while he was out front entertaining the ladies who lunch . I was back at the trailer tied up. From there, dial and bobbi went to work on an industrial chicken farm owned by debra grace. She never doubted they were married, but she could see dial was abusive. He was like, i can beat her. Shes my wife, i can beat her. I said, no, not on my farm, you cant. I tried to get her to come to the house. She kept saying no, he wouldnt like that. They moved again to another bigger chicken farm. Bobbis daughters were teenagers now. Shed missed five anniversaries with randy. There were times that the loneliness was so great that my body would physically ache. And she says dial never ceased his campaign of terror, killing two of her dog to punish her. One right before her eyes. He shot the dog. Then he blamed me for it. It was maybe just a dog, but to me it was family. Only once, says bobbi, did she openly defy him. Dial, artistturnedkillerturned fugitive was the subject of a true crime book. He decided to phone the investigator, an excop named Charles Sasser. He said for the past nine years were making an honest living, living a happy country living. He thought it included bobbi parker. He wanted proof that she was alive. He said, of course shes alive. Do you want to talk to her . I was in bed sleeping. He told me he would put me on the phone. I said, im tired, im really tired. And reached back here for his gun. I said i put my hand up, i said he told me, just stick to the questions that he asks you. But even with dial right next to her, bobbi says she dared to go off script. After all, sasser was a former detective. This might be her chance. I said, have you seen my children . I knew id probably be beat for it, but sometimes its worth it. I thought he would say would you like me to make a phone call to them, and he didnt. Still, she says the conversation filled her with hope. I thought the fbi will be here, surely Charles Sasser will call them and theyll be here. Sasser did call the fbi, but he didnt know where bobbi and dial were. No one came. Bobbi says she was broken, resigned to her fate, and the years dragged on until one day in spring, 2005, when her life took another wild turn. Coming up, a rescue is in the works, or was it a rescue at all . Deputy ares are about to deputies are about to discover something odd. Picked up valentine cards. Valentines . Uhhuh. Mr. Dial had had a violent past. Best opportunities of success is to hit hard and fast. It was april 4, 2005. Bobbi parker and randolph dial had been missing for ten years, seven months, and five days. Bobbi was just finishing up work at a chicken farm near her home. She had no idea the place was surrounded by cops. I was greeted with three Law Enforcement officers in assault gear. Whats the first thing you told them . My name. I actually said my name for the first time in so long. It was a a good feeling, but it was the oddest feeling because i had not used bobbi parker for so long. An anonymous tipster had called authorities after seeing the long cold case on americans most wanted. And just like that, bobbi parker was free. It was a wonderful feeling. It was this is over. This is over. Randy parker still working for the Oklahoma Department of corrections was home that night when he got a frantic call from his boss. As soon as i pick up the phone, he said, im going to get you. He said, bobbis been found. All i could think about was getting to texas as soon as we could. Randy anxiously drove six hours through the dark to east texas while bobbi spent a tearful night in a hotel with thendeputy sheriff donna clayton. It was just a mixture of so many different emotions, you know. The fear, the anticipation. But yet, being afraid to get excited, you know, about seeing her husband and family because, you know, what if they didnt want her anymore. And finally, the moment arrived. After more than a decade, husband and wife were reunited in a hotel lobby. I just walked up to her and put my arms around her. Told her she was going to be okay now. It was very natural to see him, to talk to him, to hug him. Did you see any doubt in his eyes . None. None. You took her back no questions asked . There was no taking her back, it was to go get her and bring her home where she belonged. Taking her back. You dont like those words not, not not for me, no, i dont like those words. Tell me it sounds like im doing her a favor when the fact is is shes my wife. Shes been missing. Shes been found finally. And im going to go get her and bring her home. The following day, bobbi and randy returned to oklahoma. She saw her daughters, little girls when shed last seen them, now young women, almost 19 and 22. Randy says they lowered the shades to keep the world out, to try to heal. Did you ask her anything about what she had been through . No. No. I told her that we would start today and move forward. But he could see that bobbi was different. She would say, im going to get a coke, can i have one . Im going to go to the bathroom, is that okay . She was still acting like a prisoner . Yes, she was. It certainly teamed like a triumph of survival and love, except for something the sheriff remembered. The only thing that i heard her say to mr. Dial was, im not cooperating, im not cooperating. Not cooperating with the authorities . Why would bobbi say that after being kidnapped, raped, and tortured by randolph dial for years . Tell dial im not cooperating, but what did that mean . If it came out in the paper that i was cooperating, i felt like my family would still be in harm. So maybe bobbi was still afraid of dial. Or maybe she had other reason for saying she was not cooperating with Law Enforcement. Along with her odd statement, deputies were finding odd things in that trailer. They picked up a lot of cards and like valentine cards, christmas cards, letters valentines . Uhhuh. Which just fueled the suspicions a lot of people had harbored all along. You dont buy the victim narrative on any level . Not for a minute. When we come back, a whole new ordeal was about to begin. Was the victim now a suspect . Oh, my gosh. This cannot be happening. When the devil

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