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We had other good news yesterday but i cant talk to you about that. Frankly you call that one totally wrong. Mr. President some say it was disrespectful for macron to invite zarif. He has my approval. We have a very good relationship. Thats another thing you get wrong. This was the best meeting weve had with president macron. Were not finished yet. Theres a day left. We have a lot of meetings including with the president of egypt, which im looking forward to. Im meeting with Angela Merkel and a few others. We have some sessions. And then well have a nervous if you so choose. On macron, no, no, he spoke to me, he asked me. I said if you want to do that, thats okay. I dont consider that disrespectful at all. President alsisi is very important. Ask mike pompeo, secretary of state and hes working very, very hard on that situation and very competently. If you look and see whats going on with the palestinians, wed like to see if we can make a deal. Its very tough. It got complicated by the israel elections. But were going to know who the Prime Minister will be fairly soon. I think the palestinians would like to make a deal. As you know, i cut off most funding to the palestinians, a lot of funding. I think theyd like to make a deal. Well see what happens. They pay, pay, pay. This went on for years. So i dont believe in that. We cut off their funding a lot of it. Well see what happens. I think they want to make a deal, the palestinians. After so many years and decades i think theyre a little tired of fighting. Youre confident that its going to be released right after the deal . No of course not. No. After. I think you may see what the deal is before the election. Everybody says thats the deal that cant be made. Israel and the palestinians, tremendous hatred for many many decades. Everybody says it is a deal that cannot be made so well see if we can make it. I knew he was coming in. I respected the fact that he was coming in. He met with president macron. Iran has a very difficult situation. Theyre in a position thats not a very good position from the standpoint of economics. Thats okay. We can clear that up very quickly. Were not looking for regime change. Were looking to make iran rich again. Let them be rich. Let them do well if they want. Or they can be poor as can be. Ill tell you why. I dont think its acceptable the way theyre being forced to live in iran. Its got to be nonnuclear. Were going to talk about ballistic missiles, were going to talk about timing, were going to talk about the length of the agreement which expires in a very short period of time. The agreement president obama made expires in a very short period of time. He paid 150 billion for a shortterm agreement. Plus he gave him 1. 8 billion in cash. Finance minister, which one . Explain to him 1. 8 billion in cash. Whats the next step for iran . Well see what happens. Its all very new. Theyre under a lot of financial stress. The secretary of the treasury is here now. Hes really an expert at what he does. Hes done a very effective job. We are the largest economy by far in the world. When i became president we were heading to be the second largest. China was going to overtake us. Not going to happen. When im here, cant happen. Weve picked up 23 trillion in worth and china has lost 2030 trillion in worth. If i hadnt won, our country would be taken of by china. All these clowns are all sitting there saying, quell, i dont think the president is negotiating properly. They dont know what theyre talking about. I have Great Respect for the fact that china called. They want to make a deal. I have Great Respect and i have Great Respect for president xi. Now were dealing on proper terms. They understand and we understand. But thats a great thing that happened and they want to get something done. Maybe it wont get done but this is the first time ive seen them where they really do want to make a deal. I think thats a very pods step. As far as iran was concerned, that was with Great Respect. I spoke to president macron yesterday. I knew everything he was doing and i approved. I think its too soon to meet. I didnt want to meet. I said i dont want to meet right now. Its going to be a great thing for iran. They have Great Potential. Iran has Great Potential. You know who else has Great Potential . North korea, kim jongun. Under his leadership north korea has Great Potential. I dont think north korea wants to blow it, but if they blow it, it wont be good. You didnt want to meet with zarif. Did you send him a message . I dont want to comment. [ inaudible question ] am i going to tariff french wine . Yes. It depends the deal we work out on the digital tax. Whats the status of that . Were negotiating right now. Im not going to tell you what im willing to do but iran has a chance to build themselves up and be a very great nation, greater than before. But they have to stop terrorism. That is your number one nation of terror. Not in the last year and a half two years because they cant spend like they used to spend. They took president obamas 150 billion and they doled it out to terroris terrorists. I think theyre going to change, i really do. I think they have a chance to be a very special nation. I hope thats true. Hes one of my closest friends. They send us millions and millions of cars. They have for many years. Theyre essentially not taxed. They send them in for japan. Theyre essentially not taxed. My first step to japan was to say you have to move car company into the united states, and they did, many Car Companies and now operating militants in te ining states. The ultimate card is they sent us millions and millions of cars. Essentially its 2. 5 but theres ways of getting around it. Essentially nontariff, free. Hes going to make the deal. I feel pretty certain about that. Thats what i do. Thats the thing people didnt understand. We have the cards. Were the Big Piggy Bank that everybodys been robbing for 35 years. We have all the cards but we never played it because we never had a president that understood this and we never had an administration that understood it. [ inaudible question ] nobodys ever asked me that question but you. Tell me why would i do that . Why . Thank you very much. Thank you. We have been listening to President Trump with the president of the arab republic of egypt. Theyre going to be a bilateral meeting. President trump talking about irans visit to the g7 summit, which was a bit of a surprise and saying how macron had actually asked him for permission. Also talking about a trade deal with china, saying china had made two phone calls and they were going to be talking with them about a trade deal and bringing them back to the table. Also talking about his meeting with abe of japan about tariffs coming through there. Kelly, youve been traveling with the president. What is the latest . We got a lot out of that meeting. Were there any surprises . Reporter definitely. This was one of those opportunity where is the president uses the backdrop of a meeting with egypts president , he used that platform of having the press pool there and the International Media to make news on a number of fronts. This was the president harnessing the cameras for a moment to go beyond the conversation with egypt to talk about what he says is a Major Development number u. In the u. S trade war. China reaching out is a Major Development and it would have a big impact on the economy. We dont have a lot of details yet on what that will look like, but we have seen the president has been using a couple of different levers over the last week or so to raise tariffs, to talk about the possibility of setting into motion a very rare and obscure legal tactic to try to get u. S. Companies to remove china from their supply chain, something that seemed very farfetched but he put that into the discussion. And now it appears that china wants to talk again on trade. So well have to see where that goes. At the same time, other big news. He is giving us more detail on the unexpected arrival that we saw here at the g7 of irans foreign minister. The first reports came out yesterday when an iranian official plane was spotted landing here at the setting for the g7 summit. Were learning that emanuel m macrmac macron spoke with President Trump. Of course remember the u. S. Pulled out of the iran nuclear deal. France has wanted to stay in it. Has want eed to keep the International Partnership to keep iran from getting a Nuclear Weapon and trying to keep the negotiations going. Japans shinzo abe has also been trying to communicate with iran. This is the mysterious diplomacy that President Trump shed some height on. He did not want to have any involvementably he would not an questions about whether he sent a meblg himself to iran. When this president does not comment that is notable. A no comment tends to be in areas that are very sensitive. Is it an area where there is an answer and he just feels unwilling to share it at this point because of whatever since r sensitive matters might be at play. The president has a very close relationship with israel and israels Prime Minister. A lot more to come today. The formal meeting between President Trump and Frances Emanuel macron will allow for a broader set of questions and will be kind of the summary of this international gathering. Coming into the g7 people wondered how would it be different. They have not typically gone well. There have been a lot of koef controversies. This one has taken on a different character. The injection of the iran piece is something that was unexpected and certainly critically important. There is more to develop as the day unfolds. Kelly, you talked about iran being interjected here. President trump also brought up north korea saying they have Great Potential. How is north korea playing into the g7 summit . Certainly when you talk about internal security, there is a conversation among these leaders about the concerns. When you talk about the president s close friendship with shinzo abe and the president was asked about the continued testing of missiling from north korea. He did say he was not happy about it. There was a little bit of separation between he and japan. The plt sresident saying it did go quite that far. Kelly has been traveling with President Trump, who is now in a bilateral meeting with the president of egypt. Well have more updates throughout the night and breaking news when it happens. Imagine. Megared omega3 power for your whole body. Now with an antioxidant blend for great sleep, refreshed skin and less stress. One softgel. 7 benefits. New total body refresh. Power your day with megared. Check your free Credit Scores at creditkarma. Heres to progress. And they say he made a startling admission. He said, im sorry, andrea. And im sorry mom. Reporter gianna wasnt having it. M i was yelling and saying to him, youre sick. Youre a sick man and that, he he agreed. He said that he was a sick man. And he agreed . Yes. And he felt very embarrassed. Reporter andrea decided to make her own call to the local police. Ry canadian detectives interviewed her, then contacted the authorities in pennsylvania where cosby lived. They opened an investigation. And that made news. Bill cosby is the focus of a Police Investigation near is philadelphia. It stems from an allegation. Did you understand, andrea, how public this all might get at that point . St yes. I were you scared . I was. Yes. And it sunk in more and more as the days passed. Reporter andreas mom was worried, too. And wanted to protect her daughter. So she did something unusual. She bought a phone recording device and used it the next time she talked to the comedian. Why did you record it . Because i was hoping to have his admission of what he had told me on the first call. I wanted to get back to you because reporter but right away, it seemed cosby wasnt willing to talk about what happened to andrea. I i dont wanna talk about anything except a mute, a mutual feeling for uh, a friendship. Reporter and just as fast, giannas plan started to unravel. Cosby seemed to realize she was recording the call. So gianna tried to make an excuse for a sound he heard. Blaming it on her pet. You do you have a beeping going on in your phone. No, no, not at all. I have a parrot. I know this is a beep. No, no, i have a parrot, i mean i dont have a no. A parrot . Reporter cosby changed the subject. And offered to financially help andrea if she wanted to pursue a graduate degree. Yeah, ill lay out what i think is the best. Pay for the schooling. I uhhuh. And a whatever, as long as she maintains a three point zero average, shell be fine. Reporter gianna says she wasnt interested in cosbys money. But she did want the name of the drug hed given andrea. Shed asked him for that in their previous phone call. Are you really gonna send me on that piece of paper the name of that stuff or not. Or were you joking . Oh, no, no, no, no. We can, we can talk about what you asked for later. Okay. Okay. Okay, just because im concerned. I, i dont know how it affected her and i wanna know. I dont think so, d ho wouldnt even worry about it if i were, im serious about this. Lets get with the other thing. Okay. Reporter the conversation ended. Days later, andrea was interviewed by police in pennsylvania. She hoped cosby would be charged. But that didnt happen. In a dramatic development, the Montgomery County District Attorney said he would not file criminal charges, citing a lack of credible and admissible evidence. Yet, andreas story was far from over. If the d. A. Wouldnt go after cosby, she would. You start hearing from a lot of women. 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When andrea called me in 2005, little could i imagine that wed still be on this journey in 2018. Reporter bebe kivitz and Dolores Troiani had years of experience helping survivors of Sexual Assault. After andreas story made news, other women privately reached out with similar accusations. You start hearing from a lot of women. Right. Thirteen. all of whom tell tell you what . Well, some of them were consensual relationships, but everyone had the same story, which is, im with bill cosby, and the next thing i know, i drank something or i take a pill and im out. Reporter in march 2005, andrea sued cosby in a civil lawsuit. Dolores, bebe, you have a twowomen office basically up against a multimillionaire, superstar, worldrenowned comedian. We hadnt noticed that. Intimidated . Never. Never. N really, never. Never. Underestimated. You were underestimated. Absolutely. Reporter andreas lawyers had lots of questions for cosby. And because thiswas a civil case, the comedian was forced to sit for a deposition. Can you describe what happened when you walked in the room . Well, it was four days, and each day, he had at least four male lawyers there. Was he confident . Well, he was arrogant. There was one part, that he uses to explain how, in his mind, women dont need to verbalize their consent because, you know, he just knows. And and it was very it it was disgusting. Reporter andrea was there to look him in the eye and hear what he had to say. Having to sit in the same room as mr. Cosby and his attorneys, i didnt feel as scared. Reporter cosby was now on the record, at times ignoring the advice of hisown lawyers and freely offering crucial details. He admitted, he had given andrea three blue pills, three round, blue pills that were friends. Reporter and there was more. Dolores specifically asked him about quaaludes, a prescription sedative popular in the 70s when you got the quaaludes was it in your mind that you were going to use these quaaludes for young women that you wanted to have sex with . Cosby answered yes. and he never takes them himself. He said he had seven prescriptions of quaaludes for young women to have sex with. Reporter in november 2006, cosby settled the lawsuit and admitted no wrongdoing. Andrea signed a nondisclosure agreement, and cosby paid her 3. 38 million dollars. The depositions sealed from the public. Now what was it you wanted to say . Reporter and while a few other women made accusations against the comedian, the story essentially died out. Until 2014, eight years later, when another comedian took the stage. I had a successful sitcom, but yeah, you rape women bill cosby so turn the carzy down a couple notches. Reporter Hannibal Buress added a bit about cosby to his routine. Ive done this bit on stage and people dont believe, people think im making it up. Im like bill cosby has a lot of rape allegations. Reporter for whatever reason, the comments spread like wildfire on social media. More and more women whose stories went back years started coming forward. How many of you believe you were drugged by bill cosby . How many of you believe bill cosby raped you . Reporter women accused the comedian of everything from harassment, to Sexual Assault to rape. Back in 2015, i interviewed 27 of them. Lili bernard. And the next memory, im on the floor, on the carpet. And i remember the the sensation of the carpet against the flesh of my back like velcro, like this. And it hurt and i couldnt move because of the drugs. And i remember him on top of me. Reporter many of these women said they had something in common cosby took advantage of them when they were young and vulnerable. It was too late for most of them to have their day in court the statute of limitations had run out. Some expressed frustration cosby had never been prosecuted. Heidi thomas. And see if we can maybe start to address an epidemic crime. My names kevin steele. Reporter a few months after that interview, a new d. A. Was elected in Montgomery County, pennsylvania. Armed with another investigation, the d. A. s office charged cosby in the constand case. Today, after examination of all the evidence we are able to seek justice on behalf of the victim. Reporter in december of 2015, bill cosby was arraigned on three counts of aggravated indecent assault. Mr. Cosby you want to say anything . Reporter cosby pleaded not guilty. Mr. Cosby how do you feel, sir . Reporter with a trial looming, andrea would have to take the witness stand and relive her nightmare. Mr. Cosby, are you confident the defense argued that you wanted money. Were you in it for money . Reporter when dateline continues. Stop dancing around the pain that keeps you up again, and again. Advil pm silences pain, and you sleep the whole night. Advil pm reporter in june 2017, bill cosby went on trial in a courthouse outside philadelphia for sexually assaulting Andrea Constand 13 years earlier. Mr. Cosby, are you confident today, sir . Reporter finally, it was time for andrea to tell her story to a jury. As well as i held myself, a part of me was nervous that i would have to, again, go through this traumatic incident that happened to me all over again. Live through it again. Yes. Reporter on the stand she recounted that night back in 2004 at cosbys home. When she finished, his defense team challenged her story, zeroing in on inconsistenices. On the sixth day of deliberating, the jury announced it was hopelessly deadlocked. Today a pennsylania judge declared a mistrial. When you heard it was a hung jury, was that devastating . It didnt feel complete. It didnt feel like justice. It just felt empty. Reporter it could have ended right there. But the d. A. Had a message for andrea and her attorneys. He looked at me and he said, im doin this again. That day . That day. That minute. Reporter andrea was determined to testify again. This wasnt just about her. It was also about cosbys other accusers. Women came out into the public, into the media in droves saying that they had, too, been drugged and sexually assaulted. And i believe the women. I believe the women. Reporter and for trial number two she would have more support. The judge ruled that five women, with stories of drugging and assault similar to andreas, could also testify. It was a big win for the prosecution. Four of those women spoke to us janice bakerkinney, liselotte lublin, heidi thomas and chelan lasha. I was like, thank you, somebodys listening. And we will take this opportunity and run with it. Thank you for letting us speak. Reporter liselotte lublin teaches sixth grade at a las vegas school. She didnt tell students shed be part of bill cosbys retrial. But then, one of them approached her. She wrote me a note. And she gives me the notes before i went to philadelphia. And she told me to be strong. And i never talked to her about it. She hands it over to me and i open it up. And just reading the note, i know she knows. Reporter on monday april 9th, trial number 2 began. Mr. Cosby how are you feeling today . Reporter one by one, the accusers took the stand. Ill tell you right now, shaking like a leaf when i first got there. I was sitting on my hands for the first part of my testimony. Reporter but for each woman, fear gave way to confidence. Even defiance. Chalan lasha locked eyes with bill cosby. He looked at me in that courtroom and he smiled and ch chuckled at me. And thats when i made the comment that i made. What did you say . Now you remember me, mr. Cosby, dont you . cause i knew he did. Its like, im looking at you in your eyes. I know he remembered the day he drugged me. You saw you saw i knew it. I saw it in recognition in his eyes . Yes. Reporter on the stand, heidi thomas blurted out her reason for testifying. And i said, im here to see a serial rapist convicted. And then the courtroom was silent. And i thought, oh, man, im waiting for somebody to stand up and object to this. You could hear a pin drop. Reporter she was right to worry. For the second trial, cosby hired a new defense team, headed by famed l. A. Attorney Thomas Mesereau. I felt their strategy was one of something, if this trial took place in 1970 or 80, it would have worked. What was the strategy . Victim blaming. Smear tactics. Complete victim blaming. And smear techniques. And it was so misogynistic. It was so victim blaming, it was so two decades ago. Reporter through his lawyers, cosby has denied he gave drugs or had sexual interaction with anyone without consent. He has not been charged in connection with any allegation other than andreas. After the accusers testified in april, its was andreas turn. A friend was there for support. Angela rose founded a Survivor Advocacy group called pave. we had to wait in a small little hallway before we went into the court and i remember being in that hallway and us Just Holding Hands and just saying a prayer for justice. And i just told her, you can do this. Reporter for the second time in less than a year, Andrea Constand took the stand and described that night at cosbys home. As she spoke, she focused on the 12 people who most needed to hear her. I connected with the jury. I let them feel what i had gone through. And i tried to be as authentic as possible, as relaxed as possible. Reporter when she finished telling her story, cosbys lawyers went after her. The defense painted a picture, andrea, of you giving inconsistent statements to Different Police agencies, saying Different Things at different times. Well, thats fair. And understandably so. Going through that kind of traumatic situation is very difficult. And the one thing that ive remained consistent of is what he did to me that night. It will never go away. Its stuck in my brain for the rest of my life. Your story on that has never changed. No. Reporter the defense argued that andrea was a con artist who preyed on a lonely man. That was despicable. Thats not true. Im not a con artist. Bill cosby is a con artist. For years and years and decades, he preyed upon young women. And hes a true con artist himself. The defense argued that you wanted money, were you in it for money . No. This has never been about money. This has been about justice i wasnt talking money. I was talking police and justice. Reporter but it was also about a hollywood icon. Twelve men and women were now being asked to throw that image away and redefine the man, as a criminal. I had my fist clenched and i i had my fist clenched and i was holding my breath. 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But as the jury in bill cosbys retrial deliberated, she made her peace. I tried to just keep my expectations to just not be affected either way. That, regardless, the jury was going to deliver a verdict and to just be okay with that. Reporter the other women who testified were more tense. I didnt realize for how long i was had my fist clenched, and i was holding my breath. You all feel that way . Holding our breath, absolutely oh, my. Yeah. Reporter midway through the second day of deliberations, this jury had what the first did not a verdict. For Andrea Constand, the long wait was over. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. I i was just overcome. Reporter the jury found bill cosby guilty of three counts of aggravated indecent assault. Americas dad was now a convicted felon. I was so happy for her. And for the other women. Just for you know, because i thought not only was she doing this for herself, i knew all along that it was bigger than just her. Reporter the enormity of the verdict played out inside the courthouse, as accusers whod attended the trial broke down. As for these four, theyd all returned home by that time their phones blowing up with the news. I said, hes guilty, hes gui we did it, we did it and i walked in the door and my husband just walked out to me, i looked at him and i said, we did it. We did it we beat goliath. We did it. We beat goliath. Reporter but the drama inside the courtroom wasnt over. Immediately after the verdict, prosecutor kevin steele told the judge that cosby was a flight risk with his own airplane. Andreas attorney watched as cosby shot up from his chair in a flash of anger. And he yelled you know, he doesnt have an airplane, you ahole. Im sick of you. And, i mean, there was a gasp in the audience. Everybody was like, oh, my god. I thought, there he is. Now, everybody sees what this man is. Bill cosby. Bill cosby. Reporter cosby is free on bail until his sentencing this september. The 80yearold faces up to 30 years in prison. His defense team declined comment for this report. But right after the verdict, attorney Thomas Mesereau spoke to reporters. We dont think mr. Cosby is guilty of anything. And the fight is not over. Thank you. Are you going to appeal . Yes, yes very strongly. Reporter cosbys wife, camille, issued her own statement. She condemned the trial as. Mob justice, not real justice. But these four witnesses say camille cosbys voice cant drown out the jurys verdict. When we last met, beverly johnson, also an accuser, said, this body of women are moving the needle. Not much. But were still moving it and thats the power we all feel. You think you moved the needle . Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah. I think we are exploding the needle off the charts. With each step we take, people who have been assaulted, sexually assaulted, feel more powerful to be able to come forward. Reporter after the verdict, Andrea Constand went back to toronto. Back to her job and to the family and friends who supported her for years. When i got home and when i arrived at the door, there was a big three words, and hearts, stuck all over my door. And it said, you did it. Reporter now, when she hears the name bill cosby she no longer feels anger. What do you think now when you look at him . I forgave bill cosby for what he did to me. I forgive him. Its been many, many years. And if i did not forgive him, i wouldnt have peace. And i sit here today and i have my peace. Reporter and a new purpose. The last 14 years have changed andrea and the world around her. Shes okay with that. In fact, she embraces it. Do you consider yourself part of what everybody calls the metoo movement, the moment that were having in this culture . Well, i think, yes, but im just proud of everything that has unfolded in the past couple a years, especially the past year. Because we will hold people accountable. We will teach consent. This is just getting started. So, im glad to be a part of where its going and the future of metoo, times up. So, yeah yeah. Im in. Im in. Thats all for this edition of dateline. Well see you again sunday at at this weekends g 7 summit, the president clashes are allies over iran, korea, the trade war with china, russia, other than that, the president says things are just great. President trump gets a 2020 candidate, former gop congressman joe walsh. And protests in hong kong take a violent turn as police turn tear gas and guns used against demonstrators. Good morning, everyone, its monday, august 26. Im ayman m