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MSNBCW Dateline February 23, 2020

Welcome back to nbcs special coverage of the nevada caucuses. The projected winner is vermont senator Bernie Sanders. Sanders leads the rest of the field by more than 20 points. He has bested joe biden by double. Former Vice President joe biden in second place, a distant second at the moment. Pete buttigieg, Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar, tom steyer is in there. Senator sanders has claimed 13 delegates. Nobody has been awarded any delegates other than Bernie Sanders just yet. 36 in total. Sanders has 13 of them at the moment. That means sanders has opened up a double digit delegate lead over Pete Buttigieg in the National Delegate count. He enjoyed the victory from san antonio, texas, where he had a Campaign Rally tonight. In nevada we have just put together a multiagagenerationa multiracial win which is going to win nevada and sweep this country. No campaign has a Grassroots Movement like we do, which is another reason why were going o win this election. Okay. Lots to unpack here. Joining me to discuss is sahil kapur, matt visor and jane klebe is the chairperson of nebraskas Democratic Party. Thank you for joining us to make some sense out of this. This is an evening where we need some help making sense out of it. This is a big win for Bernie Sanders. Theres no way to describe it other than that. As you cross tabulate all the Different Things we saw in the entry polls, he does well in almost all of them. That said, there are 36 delegates here. Were now up to 101 delegates in total. You need 1991 to win on the first ballot. If theres something called moment momentum, its here for Bernie Sanders. Theres no question. Our party looks and sounds very differently than i think what a lot of our political establishments have thought. That is being shown in the caucuses and the early primaries. Weve been slow to catch up to where voters are. I think what youve seen over the past five years is activists from dreamers, pipeline fighters, water protectors, theyre now really showing their force as a political voting block. So, matt, i mean, heres the issue. Bernie sanders tweeted it out. The republican establishment, you cant stop us. The democratic establishment, you cant stop us. There are lots of people, establishment in journalism, democratic circles think that Bernie Sanders is a threat and he cant win the election. His Campaign People are in force telling everybody stop ignoring us, stop dismissing us, youve got to deal with us. This was a statement win. The numbers are pretty astounding and as you mentioned, its across the board. Its union households, nonunion households, educated, noneducated voters across the board. This is the first state where youve had a diverse electorate. Hes broadening the electorate, bringing new caucus goers out. Youre starting to see the backlash. You heard a little bit from Pete Buttigieg in his speech afterwards but you saw sanders take a different approach where he started to reach out a little bit, talking about the diversity hes bringing to the party. I think thats the next phase, that the party is going to have to grapple with the idea of Bernie Sanders being their standard bearer. Sahil, we like to speak to the candidates. Every single one of them who sits in this seat says our candidate is the only one who can build the Broad Coalition necessary to defeat donald trump. A bunch of them are clearly lying. What does this mean . Because it cant actually be true that theyre all the ones to build the Broad Coalition. The entry polls tell us something we knew. 1 3 of the voters made the choice for the person who shares their views versus the person they believe can vote can beat donald trump. Yeah, there is a hearts vote and the minds vote. Bernie sanders won both. He won democratic voters who said they want a candidate who agrees with him on the issues. He won democratic voters who can beat President Trump. There are not many that are assembling that broadbased coalition. One of the most impressive things about Bernie Sanders win here is his win over hispanic voters. 37 . Two enormously rich delegate primaries on the map that vote on march 3rd. The only place he seemed vulnerable demographically was among black voters. Joe biden won that and that will matter a lot in South Carolina and super tuesday. Go back to 2016. This was not a place where he was competitive and there was no criticism that he had the ability to be competitive among black voters. While biden still leads, bernies still competitive and bloomberg is that factor. Hes not in tonights race and he was competitive at least until wednesday. This is one of the biggest differences with Bernie Sanders between his 2016 campaign and this campaign. He was doing very poorly among nonwhite voters which arguably cost him the nomination. Hes doing much better with black voters even if hes not winning them. Lets talk about moderates. Tonight there are moderate democrats. There are some democrats who consider themselves conservative who are looking at this saying, whats going to happen . Theyre laying got squeezed out. Not necessarily. This is the thing. When we have moderate voters. I come to a red and rural state and i have to reach out to all shades of blue. The moderate voters want to know that you have their back. They want to know that youre going to have their backs when it comes to economic issues, health care, Property Rights. In states like nebraska and minnesota that are being faced with risky fossil fuel projects. Latino voters are more moderate and conservative. I think bernie can attract them with his economic policies. Lets talk about medicare for all. A very heavy union state. They push back. They said we like our health care. If youre union, youve spent the last 30, 40, 50, 60 years fighting for their health care. He still wins the union vote. Thats the other part about his win thats just astounding. The Culinary Union worked hard against him. They set the table when he first came in here criticizing him. You look at the casinos on the strip and Bernie Sanders is winning those among the culinary rank and file. Its that thing where theres a disconnect with the leadership and the rank and file. Bernie sanders has found a way to tap into it. Which again happened in 2016. The Union Leadership is getting gun shy about endorsing anybody. Theyre going to say our members are going to to what our members want to do. Its interesting between membership. Sahil, you were talking about Pete Buttigieg not just talking about donald trump but warning the Democratic Party about the danger of Bernie Sanders. Lets listen to what he has to say. Senator sanders believes in an inflexible ideological revolution that leaves out most democrats not to mention most americans. I believe we can beat President Trump and delivering for the American People by delivering medicare for all for those who want it. We can call people names online or we can call them into our movement. We can either tighten a narrow and hard core base or open the tent to a new and broad and bighearted american coalition. So hes making the point we were talking about here. At the moment Bernie Sanders didnt get 50 of the vote in nevada but it was close and he was up there. No other contingent adds up to where Bernie Sanders is. From the perspective of Pete Buttigieg saying he cant build that coalition, i can, what does that mean here . Is Bernie Sanders showing us that the coalitions not what you all thought it was . Right. Pete buttigieg is trying to portray this as a threeperson race. Hes trying to position himself as the reasonable alternative. Hes a decisive socialist and a plutocrat on the other side. Elizabeth warren is saying its a three person race. Everyone is looking for their private foil here. There arent clear lanes here. Democratic voters arent splitting themselves up here. Theres a lot of kind of cross driving in the lanes. Some people want a candidate they think is smart, some people want a candidate based on certain issues. We think were well into this race but for a lot of people, theyre not. Theyre watching this unfold. For some people wednesdays debate was watching what these people might do if theyre up against donald trump. Lets listen to Elizabeth Warren. She continues to warn, just like buttigieg is warning people. Lets listen to warren. I want to talk for a minute specifically at the top about a threat that is coming our way and its a big threat. Not a tall one, but a big one, Michael Bloomberg. He argues that he is the safest bet to beat donald trump. Hes not safe, hes just rich. Lets think about that. Billionaire who hides his taxes, has a bad history with women and defends racist policies. Let me just put it this way. Were not substituting one arrogant billionaire for another in 2020. So, matt, take a look at her strategy versus Pete Buttigiegs strategy. Theyre pitting themselves, as sahil said, but to different potential leading candidates. I think for warren, bloomberg brings up something in her that you saw in the debate and that youre seeing again in her tonight br swhere shes found h voice in the animosity she feels against Mike Bloomberg. It aligns her in a way like Bernie Sanders. You can imagine the two of them, they are compatible and she is helping Bernie Sanders at the moment by going after Mike Bloomberg. Is that working . Is there enough room in Bernie Sanders lane for Elizabeth Warren to be hanging around there . Everybody else has decided were going to a different lane. They have smaller numbers to do that with. I think his most fierce supporters are upset with Elizabeth Warren. She sat on the sidelines when she should have been next to bernie endorsing him. Some of the things that came up earlier. I think with mayor bloomberg, he does have support in the Africanamerican Community and climate community. He has spent millions of dollars to close cole plants. And gun control. Right. Theres no doubt that senator sanders is in the lead. We should celebrate that and honor the fact that he has brought a wide coalition. We have to be wideeyed as democrats. This is a game and we have to ensure that were not cutting out voters. We passed iowa. You dont hear anybody talking about Property Rights or some of the issues that would attract rural voters in ohio, pennsylvania, wisconsin. Do you worry about Bernie Sanders as the democratic nominee . No. When i talk to farmers and ranchers, they think hes the only one that isnt an arrogant sob. As voters, we have to remember that urban voters hate big. People feel left behind by the system. I think her message and senator sanders resonates on that level. Sahil, theres a lot of populist overlap, and the people that supported donald trump. The anger, frustration. Maybe those people who supported donald trump will come to see that he didnt deliver for them, although he is he continues to tell them he delivered for them and trade war with china. Does Bernie Sanders get an ability to draw some of those people off, peel some of those people off who voted for trump particularly in swing states like michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania. I can answer your question better than he can. This is one of the biggest questions. Is the swing voter a middle of the road type. Are they agitated and disaffected voters looking for an outsider and voter. The only commonality is that they are both outsiders reflecting some kind of major change in different ways. So Bernie Sanders is now coming along saying im reflecting a different kind of change. Theoretically, yes. I think there are some voters who are not ideologically underwritten. If Bernie Sanders is going to win the election, hes going to draw back those voters, he has to come up with a version of that. Its not a sure bet for us because he has taken some positions that can be caricatured and out of the mainstream. Hes different. Hes untested. Thats whats making a lot of democratic voters unsure. Large majorities of democratic voters support medicare for all. People have staked their candidacies on actively opposing this policy. That strategy may have backfired. Theres an intensity with single payer that draws a lot of democratic voters out that Bernie Sanders may have caught on to. Something were going to continue to talk about. It is a topic that is not as well understood but it may be one in which victory gets hinges. Were just getting started. When we return, muddle in the middle. How do they try to claw back the delegate lead from Bernie Sanders. Hi guys. 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Weve just had a big tranche of numbers come in here in nevada. Take a look at the screen. We are now 40. 6. It says 35 in. Were going to update that in. Were above 40 . The numbers look like what they are on the screen. Bernie sanders lead has increased. Bernie sanders now has, here we go, 41 . Bernie sanders has 47 of the vote. He continues to be the projected winner. Joe biden his percentage has decreased. Hes at 21 from 23 . Pete buttigieg firmly at third at 15 . Good space between biden and buttigieg and good space between buttigieg and warren. Tom steyer tying that number with Amy Klobuchar. 4 . And 0. 1 uncommitted. Tulsi gabbard has 3 vote for 0 . Bernie sanders lead is increasing in this state. Elizabeth warren was looking for a big comeback tonight after her performance in the wednesday debate. She had seen Amy Klobuchar do well in the debate prior to New Hampshire and had hoped that that would happen for her so she came out swinging. Was widely lauded as the best performer in wednesday nights debate here in las vegas, but two problems occurred. One is that much of the early voting had taken place at that point and our entry polls suggest that even those who voted before, there wasnt Much Movement towards Elizabeth Warren. Were looking at live pictures in seattle, washington. She has been taking pictures with and greeting people as she has wanted to do at these events. The performance was not good at all in las vegas but the message for Elizabeth Warren continues to be fairly energized and fired up tonight. Reporter yeah, ali, thats right. She had about 7,000 people packed into this space. Less than the 15,000 that she had last time we were here. We were outside. Were inside this time. Might be a selflimiting space. Youd never know that she came in fourth but perhaps thats the point. 89 delegates. It speaks with foreign strategy that shes looking ahead even as we continue to tick through. You heard this is a campaign. Only 4 of the delegates at play come from the four early states. The rest of them happen as you get further down the calendar and as you get to super tuesday. You continue to push towards super tuesday. The big question for all of these campaigns, what are they going to do about Bernie Sanders. Elizabeth warren came out swinging at Michael Bloomberg, not Bernie Sanders. Thats a strategy that she employed of course on the debate stage. Seems to be the strategy out here on the campaign trail. When i asked her at the debate, why didnt you go after Bernie Sanders, why did you go after Michael Bloomberg, she repeated that it was the right strategy. They think shell be one of the three people left against bloomberg and sanders, it seems to me like they think they can keep swiping at Michael Bloomberg. She did offer a criticism. It fits with this larger message of efficacy and an ability to get things done. Certainly its not as personal as making fun of Michael Bloombergs height. Attacking versus contrasting in terms of the way that theyre going at bloomberg and sanders respectively. And i have to say, the results in nevada tonight is one of the things that could throw a wrench in the warren teams larger plan. When i was talking to their team, what continuously kept coming up is that their strategy to move down the calendar and keep picking up delegates works if the results remain convoluted. In iowa and New Hampshire you had a winner. Here in nevada, Bernie Sanders has a decisive win, at least as far as we see the results coming right now. That sort of throws a wrench into the warren teams plan. If no one runs away with the early contest, this remains an open field. If this remains the case that he does well in nevada and continues to notch down, that makes it more with the warren strategy. Theyre pushing ahead on the calendar. We have new numbers in. We are now 43 of the delegate count. I suspect were going to see this pick up in speed. Something has broken through. Our numbers are increasing. Bernie Sanders Holding his lead more than double, matt, more than double joe biden. Joe biden was out there saying thanks for keeping me in the race. Pete buttigieg is carrying on how hes the alternative. You heard charlie cook say he doesnt see a road for Elizabeth Warren. You see 7,000 people waiting to take pictures of her. You wonder what this looks like from here on in. Those numbers, hes almost got a majority. Almost . Six legitimate candidates. That was always a criticism. In New Hampshire the idea was hes not going to get the numbers that he got in 2016 because there are too many people running against him. There are still too many people running against him and he got nearly 50 of the vote. Its almost like the race is confounded against narrowing. Warren has a reason to stay n. Shes motivated when she sees crowds like that in washington. Amy klobuchar got a huge spike in numbers after New Hampshire. Joe biden is heading into South Carolina and to states he feels demographically loyal to him. I think everybody has an excuse to be in but it prevents there from being any antibernie alternative. This is a path for Elizabeth Warren if there was one. It involves the field narrowing. Theres nobody in the field who has been hurt by the size of it except warren. Shes losing progressives to Bernie Sanders. Shes losing White College graduates to Pete Buttigieg. Shes losing democrats who want a woman president to Amy Klobuchar. Shes losing some barack obama and Hillary Clinton voters to joe biden who might move to her. Shes being squeezed on so many fronts. If there is a narrowing of the field, i could see people moving towards her. Its difficult because the people above her are not getting out before she does. She can only look at the people below her. Amy klobuchar, tom steyer and tulsi gabbard. These are both women who have legislative experience and policy experience and some newspapers like the New York Times found that interesting. Thank you for being with us. When we return, we have seen reports that Mike Bloombergs campaign is preparing for a contest contested convention. Were back with more of that after this. Were live in las vegas. These folks, they dont have time to go to the post office they have businesses to grow customers to care for lives to get home to they use stamps. Com print discounted postage for any letter any package any time right from your computer all the Amazing Services of the post office only cheaper get our special tv offer a 4week trial plus postage and a digital scale go to stamps. Com tv and never go to the post office again can it help keep me asleep . Sleep number event on the sleep number 360 smart bed. Absolutely, it senses your movements and automatically adjusts to keep you both comfortable. 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I want to bring in elena schneider, leanne na caldwell and Julio Ricardo varella. Were back. Elena, lets talk about this for a second. How good or bad a thing is a contested convention . I think for the party involved, its not an ideal situation. You want to go into the fall with a united front and obviously contested convention can often lead to hurt feelings at the one end of the spectrum or total disaster at the other. Theres a real possibility that everyone has in the backs of their mind that this could go to a contested convention. We got evidence of that in the debate. Bernie sanders was the one candidate on the stage who said a few nights ago said it should go to whoever had the most delegates and others said let the process play out. Bernie sanders has drawn a difference between the establishment and him. He talked about the republican establishment and he talked about the degree to which the democratic establishment is against him. We get tweets about the system being rigged against Bernie Sanders. Yes. Heres the thing. If he has the most votes going into a convention and then those super delegates show up and they dont support Bernie Sanders, there are going to be a whole lot of angry people to say the system is rigged, the establishment was always against him. He even talked about that at the debate talking about the super delegates and talking to people, to voters, caucus goers in nevada today, you hear the same language of his supporters that Bernie Sanders is saying its the same thing that Bernie Sanders has been talking about since 2016 so its baked in so many of these bernie supporters minds that the system is not fair and that if he doesnt go into the convention as the clear winner, then it was rigged against him. And i think that that is a problem for the party because it just undermines the entire system. Its very similar to language that we hear from President Trump as well. What do you think . Ray squiers ays he scorched the people. Crushed. Hes more than double his closest rival. Right. The biggest news is that he won. He crushed the latino vote. I mean, theres a new ucla study that came out an hour ago about 33 latino majority precincts in nevada and they looked at the actual data, ucla study, 74 to 18 latinos. Wow. Thats that is in the urban center which he lost last time around. Right. Thats historic. The other thing i want to say, ali, about South Carolina, lets not forget that there are 118,000 eligible latino voters in South Carolina and he micro targeted iowa. Latinos got him a little over the top. The news im getting, my phone all night is like sanders won, crushed the latino vote. Its a huge problem for biden. I dont want to talk about contested conventions because the Bloomberg Campaign said sanders has a small base. Youre telling me latino voters, the Fastest Growing electorate is a small base . You have to give him credit. Almost every demographic, almost every cross tabulation in our entrance polls he won. Africanamericans, biden edged them out a little bit amongst older voters. Biden edged them out. But he won in almost every other category, most times it was biden or buttigieg and in one or two cases warren who were next up. The consolidation argument. The vote for me because i can be the big tent at this party. Bernie sanders won in both tents. Bernie sanders got the most vote. For people who said they want to vote for somebody who can beat trump, Bernie Sanders got the most votes. Look how far hes come. He was the candidate of young, white liberals in 2016. That was a very small, active, vocal group. Certainly one he wasnt able to expand. Thats why ultimately Hillary Clinton was able to pull off. He learned some lessons. He went back to the latino voters and worked them hard. That gives them strong evidence moving forward that they are going to be able to be the candidate that brings everyone together. Thats whats most important to democratic primary voters. There are people who say moderates wont vote for Bernie Sanders. You got out of town and spoke to more moderate voters and what were they telling you . The moderate democrats i spoke to, they were representative of democrats across the country. I spoke to Elizabeth Warren supporters, people supporting Amy Klobuchar. They liked Bernie Sanders. I Cover Congress when im not out on the road. There is a huge concern among senators and members of congress about their own reelections because they are worried that Bernie Sanders is not going to be the person whos able to turn out the voters who are necessary for them to win in these swing purple red district. The down ballot races. Yeah. Somebody sits on their hands because Bernie Sanders is the president ial candidate, some of these democrats in congress feel that theyll be vulnerable because the people who would have voted for them are sitting on their hands, staying home. The suburban voters, getting rid of their health care in place of medicare for all. Theres a real fear in washington. The establishment of the Democratic Party that Bernie Sanders might hurt them down ticket. I agree because i went to anthem in henderson which is a suburban affluent liberal community. I attended a caucus. The winner was buttigieg and biden. When it was the second wave, sanders was viable. The warren people were like, come with us. No, we dont want to come with you. I think theres a big thats a big issue. You see it in the caucus. It was like there was definitely two tents. I was fascinated because everyone should watch democracy in action. Sure. Its clear that thats a problem. I personally think sanders is winning, hes going to be like, im winning. Theyre all going to figure it out once they realize that he might be the nominee. At the same time, this happened with trump. This is the same thing that happened with trump. People were sitting around in 2016 watching these things saying, this cant be happening, and its happening. Thank you. I appreciate it. Just ahead, Bernie Sanders takes the fight to President Trump in his caucus night speech. Is he running over rank and file democrats as the best candidate to beat trump . Much more live coverage when nbcs coverage continues. Invisible trailer . And its not the trailer right next to us . This guy . You dont believe me . Hop in. Good lookin pickup, i will say that. Oh wow. Silverado offers an Optional Technology package with up to 15 different views including one enhanced view that makes your trailer appear invisible. Wow. Thats pretty sweet. Thats cool. Oooohh thats awesome. Whered the trailer go . I love it. 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Joe biden now at 21 . Buttigieg at 15. Warren at 10. Everybodys percentage has gone up just a little bit except bidens. Amy klobuchar and tom steyer tied at 4 . According to nbc entrance polls, 66 of the Nevada Democratic caucus voters say they would prefer a nominee who can beat trump compared to 32 who agrees with them on the issues of of those who said they would prefer a candidate who can beat trump, take a look at this. Bernie sanders still wins that group. Joe bidens a very, very, very close second there. Buttigieg comes in a close third. Even if you think you want the guy who beats trump, you still pick sanders in nevada. My bests are back. Im just looking at the cross tabulations of the various people who come in. I want to look at the key group. If you supported Bernie Sanders, he won amongst 17 to 29, young people. He won it amongst hispanics. He won against those who consider themselves very liberal and he won amongst those who support medicare for all and he won amongst unions. What do you read into this . That thats a Broad Coalition representing what we like to call the rising electorate. They have been selling candidates for years and its finally here and theyre showing up and theyre showing up for senator sanders. That makes some of my fellow colleagues uncomfortable, but i think its okay that the party is incouncomfortable. When we had president obama in office we lost 1200 seats at the state and local level. Its not always at the top of the ticket drives turnouts. So we have competitive districts in our second Congressional District and first Congressional District. Theres no question that they could help any of those. The bottom ticket could help president ials. Whats most important is we have a candidate investing in our state parties. President obama didnt do that. Thats why we lost those. If we have the resources at the state level, we will win. Leanne caldwell, medicare for all. Interesting though it may be, i happen to like Single Payer Health care, going back to congress for a second. Congress cant pass anything to do with health care. They managed to pass obamacare and that was the last Meaningful Health care thing that were passed. What used to be called repeal and replace. Medicare for all even if you sign up and you like the idea, its a heavy, heavy lift in congress. Huge, so big. Before we get up to medicare for all, some democrats say we need to restore obamacare because its been gutted so much. So it is a huge list. Shoot for medicare for all, maybe a public option, and we win. Something thats interesting for medicare for all here in las vegas is the unions. Bernie sanders still got the support of union voters despite the union saying they dont support him because of medicare for all. Union leadership. Leadership. Likes the fact that they fought for health care. Thats their baby. The rank and file, member payingdue paying members, its the leadership. You union people, theyre going to take the health caraway and replace it with medicare for all. All right, ill take the medicare for all. Yeah. Union leaders were vocal in their position but now we have heard from the rank and file of union members. Sahil, real quick. If you are a democrat and you think medicare is important, you like this. If you think the economy is bigger overall than health care, you tend not to like this. Is this a coalition or is this a coalition of the liberals . Its a big part of Bernie Sanders group. Its rank ted number one by vots overall. All of the Democratic Candidates are likely to ends up the same place given the makeup of congress. Theres no way it should. The big question is what the opening bid is going to be for the president. If its going to be if its Bernie Sanders or in some cases Elizabeth Warren. They will first start with a single payer system. They will ask for that and they will climb down. Maybe, but all you all need to get with the rest of us in the oecd and do a single payer system. I totally get how hard itll be to get it done. Boy, its a lot better once it happens. Thank you all. When we come back, off camera Mike Bloomberg continues his rise. Im going to talk with harley ru ruda about the former mayors strategy. No matter how you stay fit keep it light with light fits 12 grams of protein and 80 calories. Big thing i recently learned as a parent . Babys skin is absorbent. Her skin could actually soak up wetness her diaper doesnt. Thats gross. Thats why i use pampers. Pampers absorbs quickly to trap and lock wetness away. Keeping your babys skin drier and healthier. For a diaper that stays drier, count on pampers. The health of your babys skin starts with the pampers theyre in. But when allergies attack,f any the excitement fades. 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Find your breaking point. Then break it. Every emergenc gives you a potent blend of nutrients so you can emerge your best, with emergenc. Despite not being on the ballot in nevada, Mike Bloomberg continues to loom large over the field. Bloombergs performance in the most recent debate caused his net favorability rating to plummet 19 points. Now hes going to have a chance to earn back some of that support at a debate next week in South Carolina ahead of the South Carolina primaries. Joining me is harley ruda of california who has endorsed Mike Bloomberg for president. Congressman, thank you for being with us. What do you make of the week that Mike Bloombergs had . Good to be back on the show with you. I see you have the late shift. I saw that and weve got to keep in mind that poll has approximately 2600 respondents and the vast majority of them have selfidentified as voting in democratic primaries and caucuses. The fact is when you get beyond just the Democratic Base and you get into i7bd pndependents and moderate republicans, you see the Bloomberg Campaign resonating with that voting block. To put that in perspective, in california the independents outnumber the republican party. So we cant take for granted the fact that we must bring independents and republicans who want to have a sure win over trump in november. What made you come around to Michael Bloomberg as the candidate . There are a lot of reasons i like Mike Bloomberg. First, his incredible success as a businessman. His ability to create jobs, understand how Good Government and smart capitalism need to Work Together is a trait we want to see in our leaders. Second, his success as mayor of new york city which is larger than 39 states so when you look at governors ability to be a president , we have to certainly look at the mayor of new york and, third, his position on key issues. Arguably nobody in our country has had a greater leading role in addressing Climate Change and gun violence. Thats the kind of person i want to see. A man who can work across the aisle and get things done. Are you worried about what you see in nevada where the liberal wing of the parties needs to take control at least of this caucus heading into South Carolina South Carolina . It seems that people are energized, the center and the establishment are not in touch with whats going on with rank and file democrats. I get your point, Mike Bloomberg might appeal well to a broader coalition of independents and moderate republicans, but what did democrats . The fact is all of these candidates are creating excitement among different demographics, and thats important. We need them and we want them to be engaged. We also have to look at the fact that Bernie Sanders is the far left side of the wing running not as a democrat, as an independent. When you look at the candidates in the middle such as bloomberg, biden, klobuchar. You have them fighting for that vote and warren fighting for the two. I think after super tuesday when things sort out, im of the opinion were going to have two really viable candidates at that point being sanders and bloomberg, youre going to see a much tighter race and well eventually see bloomberg pull it off. Your fae fairly confident after super tuesday joe biden and Pete Buttigieg are not going to be major factors in this race . I think theyre going to have a much tougher road Going Forward when you look at what i believe will transpire on super tuesday. The positioning you see right now with bloomberg, the polling he has and quickly growing support. Congressman, i want to ask you, you are one of the supporters of Mike Bloomberg who benefitted from his largess in your election. Does that play a role . It plays a role to making sure that moderates like myself got elected in helping us take the majority back. Im deeply appreciated. Do keep in mind though, i always like this narrative that he dropped lots of money into my campaign. Thats not what happened. He ran independent expenditure through the league of conservation voters pointing out that my opponent who is the biggest Climate Change denialist in congress, thats not the type of leadership we need for the country at this time. Good to talk to you as always. That does it for us here in las vegas. Tomorrow live on msnbc at 7 p. M. 4 Pacific Joe Biden on an episode of kasie dc. Al sharpton sits down with mayor Mike Bloomberg and join me in a few hours, 8 to 10 a. M. Eastern tomorrow morning on velshi right here on msnbc. Im ali velshi and thank you for watching and good night from las vegas. Ique needs your lips are like no others, and need a lip routine thats just right for you chapstick has you covered chapstick. 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The sharp uptick in coronavirus cases in certain countries around the world. What could be behind the sudden surge . And with that we say good morning to you. It is sunday, february 23rd