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I just started sobbing. They had found her daughter. But not the boy she was with. It was as though hed never existed. We couldnt find anything about l. J. Months went by. Still no trace of l. J. And then a rookie took the case. How did you feel about it that this was now going to be your case . I didnt know if i was capable of doing this. I cried for two hours. A teen found dead. We still dont have an answer. A mysterious missing suspect. She said that l. J. Has killed someone before. And hers to solve. I get the feeling, jaclyn, youre learning how to become a detective as you go. This is the case that taught me. You have no surefire way to keep your children safe. Veronica kasprzak is a determined woman. Did someone say you cant save them all to you . My mother is probably the one that would say and still says that. But yeah. I heard that a lot. She rarely listened, though. The desire to do good, to save a child, was too strong. Though sometimes in the quiet hours, she wonders if she did the right thing. If i wouldnt have picked that house, if i would have not taken a shower, if i would have done Something Else, she wouldnt have been in that situation. Of course, no one could have known then that it would end up like this. I need to report a runaway. My daughter is missing. Her daughter was annie grace kasprzak. Although when veronica met her, she wasnt a kasprzak at all. She wasnt even her daughter. She was quiet, just 7 years old, with a rough childhood. Shed been through abuse, she had a hard time trusting other people. Back in 2005 veronica was a case worker for utahs division of children and family services. Her job was to find homes for kids who no longer had one. Annie was one of those kids. Annie has kind of a largerthanlife personality. Whatever annie does, she never did small. If there was something she liked she loved it and it was huge. If there was something she didnt like it was big and there was no question about it. Drama came with it, huh . Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Veronica tried for years to find annie a stable home. But after annie had been flung back to the state nine times, veronica young, naive, and stubborn made a surprising decision. To adopt annie. Did your superiors tell you, we dont do that, veronica . Oh, yes. Dont cross that line . Uhhuh. You have a professional relationship with this child, but dont bring her into your home . Well, and that was very true. And because at the time i also happened to be about six months pregnant. And so im sure the thought was, okay, crazy pregnant lady, she doesnt know what shes doing. But it was very much, are you sure . You cant save everybody. But veronica was determined to try. She and her then husband dennis adopted 10yearold annie in january 2007. Annie, who had bounced around from house to house, finally had a home, parents, and brothers who adored her. She was the immediate cool big sister. She liked being the oldest, being in charge, teaching them all of this cool stuff. She was wanted, happy, making memories. Opening gifts on christmas morning. Her first trip to the beach. Not that everything was perfect, mind you. There was still definitely a im going to test you. As much as you say you love me and youre keeping me, im going to make i dont believe you. How would she challenge you, for instance . Just the quintessential, im not going to do what you say, im going to do whatever i want. A psychological tussle going on there, huh . Mmhmm. Which only intensified when annie entered her teen years. She was about as boycrazy as i could imagine. She always had a boy that she liked or that liked her. And it was never a, here, let me see. Its, oh, im so in love with you, this is forever, i couldnt imagine anybody being more amazing. She was very allin. But annie was also into her education and her future. She wanted to be a therapist, just like veronica. She even wanted her new family to adopt more kids. Well, what about this other girl, mom . Shes there, shes really having a hard time, i think we should bring her home. She was really becoming your daughter in a way, huh . Veronica eventually divorced and remarried. She and her new husband james settled here in riverton, utah, a quiet suburb of salt lake city. Annie had james wrapped around her finger. I took her with me to help me pick out her mothers valentines day gift. There was a shoe store right across the way. She had a way with me. She could talk me into just about anything. One of them was her favorite shoes she found, she was so excited about them. They were a red pair of shoes. A few weeks later, march 10th, 2012, annie, now 15, was watching her brothers while veronica and james went out for dinner. Then when we came home, everything seemed the same. I mean, annie had changed from running around the house in shorts to jeans, and i just kind of chalked that up to, okay, shes gotten cold. I had a massive headache i couldnt get rid of, so i went to take a shower. Annie had gone downstairs to her room to listen to music. We just figured it was another saturday. But it wasnt. When veronica finished her shower, annie was gone. James searched her bedroom. The note was tucked underneath her blanket. And i grabbed it. And it just said, im sorry, mom, i havent been totally honest with you. Annie, it turned out, was keeping a secret. In the note, she wrote, i lied to my friends. I told them i was p. P. Veronica and james knew that stood for the word no teenagers parent wanted to hear. Pregnant. A few months earlier they learned annie had had sex for the first time. Shed had sex. To annie, she assumed i could be pregnant or i am pregnant. But the pregnancy test was negative, and annie was now on birth control. Why would she sly about being p . Even more alarming was where annie said she was going. By the time you read this note, ill be on my way to california. Please dont try and look for me because i dont want to be found. The first thing we did is we called the police. And then the second person i called was chris. 14yearold Chris Bagshaw. Annie had brought him over to the house a few times. He was kind of quiet. I kind of took it as the, all right, im here with my girlfriends parents, i want to make sure they dont kill me, so. Was he in and out of the picture for her as the boyfriend of the moment . Mmhmm. His stock would rise and fall . Yep, she was crazy about him. Chris told veronica he didnt know where annie was, but he had potentially significant information. Chris said annie told him she was running away with a guy named l. J. We were shocked because we didnt know all of her friends because they changed a lot, depending on who she was hanging out with at the moment. But it wasnt familiar at all. A Police Officer came and took a report. James, meanwhile, called up the gps function on annies cell phone. It put her around the golf course out in riverton, within a mile of that, which is around the bridge area. The bridge at the jordan river, just a couple of miles from their home, a place joggers and horseback riders frequent during the day, and young lovers at night. James, veronica, and the officer watched as annies phone pinged across the computer screen in realtime. Youre watching her move . Yes. It moved so fast. Our immediate assumption was, okay, shes getting in a car. So this is a hot pursuit now, looking for your girl. Yep. And then the signal just stopped. Veronica drove to a walmart near where they tracked annies phone. And i have her picture on my cell phone, and im showing it to the people that are sitting at the front, the greeters, going, have you seen this girl . Are you collected or are you a wreck while all this is going on . I am frantic. Veronica went back home. She and james watched the front door. And they kept calling annie, but her phone went straight to voice mail. In the best of worlds shes out with some young boyfriend you may or may not know, off on a lark of some kind, but it will come to an end and youll get her back and regroup. Yeah. Our worstcase scenario at that point is, okay, shes going to come home pregnant. Worstcase scenario . Not even close. Coming up he had told us that l. J. Had driven by the house, threatening chris. And a jogger makes a grim discovery. 911, what is the emergency . Im at the river bottom, theres a pool of blood. When the girl with the red shoes continues. Red shoes continues since pioneering the suv in 1935, the chevy suburban has carried many things. Nothing more important than family. Introducing the most versatile and advanced chevy suburban and tahoe ever. Introducing the most versatile and advanced dcoughings not new. This woman coughs. And that guy does, too. 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It should have been a beautiful day. But for a jogger on the jordan River Parkway that morning, it was anything but. 911, what is the address of the emergency . You know, im not real sure. Im at the river bottom, and theres some pools of blood. And im guessing its just an animal, but in the water right by the river theres a shoe. Sergeant Chad Carpenter was one of the first on the scene. This is what the jogger sees, blood here. Pooling blood . Clotted blood . Yeah, so basically in this area right here, you had the blood droplets. And then on the cement right here you had blood in this area. On that beam right there. In this area you had a little bit of blood. Then you had pooling on the ground. Then in this area down to those rocks was where the majority of the blood had so thats where most of the blood is. Yeah. It was a large amount of blood. With alled weillife around they thought it might be animal blood. But. We called forensics out and did a presumptive test which was able to tell us it was human blood. Human blood. That changed things. That made us think we might have a body in the water. So we called the Highway Patrol helicopter. The helicopter was in the air for just under an hour before it spotted something about a mile north of where the jogger saw the blood. It was caught up in some branches. As the chopper got closer, it was clear there was a body in the river. Sergeant, when the divers pulled the victim out, what were the injuries they observed to her face . She had a laceration here on her forehead. Her face was very swollen, so we werent able to tell to what extent the injuries were. And we couldnt even identify who she was. Their jane doe, dressed in a red and white plaid shirt, looked to be about 20 years old. Her features possibly asian. And obviously she had been murdered. Leading the investigation was a young detective named Derek Johnson. Tell me about him. Right when he came into the academy, he sat next to me and started teasing me. And the rest of the class time, we just harassed each other and laughed and giggled all day. Jaclyn moore met derek at the police academy. She and derek hit it off immediately. A detective spot came open, and we both applied, and he got it. Did you think, rats . Yes. He got it, i didnt . Yes. Now derek had caught his first case, also the first homicide the town of draper had seen in years. Someone called police just after 10 00 this morning to report they had come across a gruesome scene. By the time veronica and james saw the reports, annie had been missing nearly 20 hours. The information its an asian woman under 20, i think, was the initial report, that would seem to rule out annie, certainly. Initially were thinking, no, thats not possible, that theres no way. But then a detail sergeant carpenter shared with salt lake citys nbc affiliate ksltv. There was a shoe found at the crime scene, and there was one on the body. A red shoe. The same kind james had bought annie for valentines day just weeks earlier. Veronica and james tried to stay calm. We called the police and we said, hey, our daughters missing. I think logically i was going, theyre just going to rule it out. I just need them to rule it out. But they couldnt rule it out. After i called the police i called my parents to come and pick up our boys, and i just started sobbing. Police soon determined the 20something asian victim was really 15yearold Annie Kasprzak. She had been killed by Blunt Force Trauma to the head. Veronica and james had thought the rapid pinging of annies phone meant she was driving away. Now there was no hope of her ever coming home. So theres the very worst moment of your life at that point. Here they are, three people at the door. They they confirmed that it was annie. I think we were in shock. We went into automatic, what do you need from us . Tell us what you want. You can have it. Look at anything. Veronica told investigators what she learned from annies onagain offagain boyfriend Chris Bagshaw. That annie had run away with a boy named l. J. When you talked with l. J. , how did you talk to him . I talked to him once. Okay. Actually on the phone. Okay. Police spoke to Chris Bagshaw and his father at their home. And when you talked to him on the phone, did he speak with an accent, or did you notice anything distinctive about his voice . No. Naturally, police also had to ask chris where he was. I was with my grandma. Okay. And at one point i did walk up to see if my friend can hang out, but he wasnt home. Okay. They went through the usual questions. When you walked to your friends, what did you have on . Just regular jeans and a tshirt and my red jacket. Just blue jeans . Yeah, blue jeans, his nike shoes, and a tshirt underneath. And he had his red hoodie on. Do you mind if we see your nikes . Yeah, sure. Chris wanted to help. He gave those nikes to investigators, as well as his clothes. He even gave a dna sample. And after his interview, chriss dad called up sergeant carpenter. He had told us in this phone call that l. J. Had driven by the house, was threatening chris. So heres more information that this l. J. Is a very real and threatening person . Yes. Detectives also spoke to chris and annies friend spencer criddle. Spencer said he was at the gym with his brother the night annie was killed. Did she have an interest in gangs . Not that she didnt really tell me. Maybe she does because of some person named l. J. That i have no idea who he is. All i know is she told me he was in a gang. I dont know for sure. Before he left the interview, spencer shared one more thing with police. She said that l. J. Has killed someone before. She never gave me the name but she said that she knows that or Something Like that. Thats why she was scared when apparently l. J. Threatened chris to come kill him. You thought l. J. Was your killer . We thought l. J. Was involved. Did boycrazy annie fall for a gang member . In her room, police found this poem she had written to l. J. And with it, for the first time, a name, leyton jendon. But police couldnt track him down. Not showing up on social media, any kid stuff . Nothing. Not even on any drivers license data base. We checked all of the data bases we have in the salt lake valley. Nothing. Jacqueline wasnt working the case then, but she remembers crossing paths with spencer at the station. And he immediately tensed up, clenched his fists. His eyes got big. He couldnt take his eyes off of me. And i thought, this kids done something wrong and he thinks im coming to arrest him. Because im approaching him in uniform. Did you share that with derek . Yes. He said, weve received more information now, and we think we have another suspect. Another suspect. A new name altogether. 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Her name was joanna, and she had been picked up on a fraud charge by neighboring west jordan p. D. During her interview, she started telling detectives about a young girl she had seen a week prior. The cops thought some of what she said sounded eerily similar to annies case. So they called draper p. D. , and detective Derek Johnson and his colleague came over to hear what joanna had to say. Tell me what you know about this girl. It was the second time ive seen her over there. There, at the home where a man named daniel ferry used to live. Danny ferry is a guy known to Law Enforcement. Yes. As maybe a drug dealer . Drug dealer. He was a member of a gang called vario loco town. And Law Enforcement has dealt with danny quite a few times, yeah. Ferry had a long rap sheet. In fact, derek had served a search warrant on his home a year earlier. And now here was joanna telling derek that she saw a girl who sounded a lot like annie at daniel ferrys home on the night annie was killed. Joanna also said the girl showed up with someone police had been searching for but couldnt find. She came with l. J. L. J. , the guy annie had written that note to. The alleged gang member. The one Chris Bagshaw said annie had run away with. We had annies entries that said l. J. We had joanna telling us about l. J. On that night, said joanna, l. J. And the girl disappeared into the garage. She assumed they were having sex. Then when they came out, she saw daniel approach the girl. He asked her if she wanted to [ bleep ] and she laughed. And she was like, no. And he just kind of grabbed her head and just rammed it into the wall. She said the girl was knocked unconscious. L. J. And another friend named v tried to calm daniel down. And then the three of them carried the girl out to the garage and changed her clothes. Tell me about the clothes they changed her into. There was a lot of red. Thats what i remember the most. What parts do you remember being red . Pants and shoes and a shirt, like white, white and red. The shirt was white and red . Yeah. Her shoes. Shoes had white laces, and we were tying them. Then, joanna said, daniel, l. J. And v wrapped the unconscious girl in a blue tarp, put her in a white suburban, and took off. And when they came back hours later, she said daniel was covered in blood and the girl was not with him. I asked daniel where she was, and he said that she went swimming. He said, she put up one hell of a fight once we got there. Joannas story rang true, leading Derek Johnson to believe the mystery girl was annie and daniel ferry was her killer. Did you see blood on the carpet . Yeah. Was it carpet or hard floor . It was carpet. Okay. Positive it was carpet. Now the search team found the carpet in ferrys house had been ripped up and the walls were freshly painted. So you had signs of a coverup. Yeah. Its looking more and more like this is actually true, all this information that were receiving. Did you find bloodlike splotches on the wall . We found indications that there would be blood on the wall. They swabbed those areas and then went looking for daniel. They found him at an apartment complex, arrested him, and brought him in. Do you want to talk to us without counsel . Yeah, whatever. But whats it about . Let me ask you that. What do you think . I got no clue. It was, detectives thought, the typical bad guy response. They were sure daniel knew something. They asked him about l. J. Who the hells l. J. . Thats what im asking you. Dude, i dont know no l. J. And then about annie. I dont know l. J. Tell me about annie. Annie who . Annie. Who the [ bleep ] is annie . Annie is a girl that was at your house for a party last weekend. Dude, i have no idea who annie is. Weve already talked to a lot of other people that all verify she was there, danny. Okay. Show me a picture then. You showed him a picture of annie. Yep. Brittany . Is her name brittany . No, its annie. Detectives thought daniel was lying, and they were done playing around. What if i told you shes dead . I didnt do it. What the [ bleep ] . If you guys think i did this, i do want a lawyer. Okay. Because theres only were done. The only thing that is shaking me were done daniel, because i think you did it. Well, if you think i did it, then youve got the wrong guy, man. For real. Good luck. Find the right guy. Derek was confident he had. They booked daniel for annies murder. Did this name mean anything to you . Ferry. No. The guys known for doing drugs. Uhhuh. I didnt understand it. Annieextremely antidrugs. Annies 15. The guy arrested is what, 30 years old . A person known to the police . Uhhuh. That compounded the guilt of boy, what bad parents are we that not only did this happen to her but we didnt even know she was hanging out with people like this. L. J. , whoever he was, still hadnt turned up. But detective Derrek Johnson still thought he had wrapped up his first homicide. 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Pence had two Campaign Events on saturday, one in like lakeland and one in tallahassee. Now back to dateline. Annie kasprzak had had a rough childhood. She was passed along from foster home to foster home before she was adopted by her case worker veronica. Annies life finally seemed to be turning around. Then in 2012 annie, just 15, was found murdered, her body floating in the jordan river. There was never a second that your mind didnt go to this is not what was supposed to happen. An eyewitness said she saw daniel ferry assault a girl the night annie was killed. That witness also said the girl had shown up with l. J. , whom police could never find. But in the course of their investigation of ferry, detectives learned Something Interesting. And you had another l. J. In that crowd, didnt you . Yeah. Daniel ferry . Yeah. What was his nickname . He used two. One was joker and the other was little joe. Little joe. L. J. . Yeah. Maybe their witness was confused or deliberately hiding the fact that ferry and l. J. Were one and the same. Either way ferry seemed like their man. But the d. A. Wanted more evidence before filing charges. Derek johnson and Chad Carpenter thought the blood samples taken from daniel ferrys home would push the case over the finish line. You and derek have to think youre done there. A lot of our investigators thought we had it nailed. While they waited for the blood results to come back from the lab they went searching for the carpet that had been ripped out from the ferry home, the carpet joanna had said the girl had bled on. We sent investigators to the landfill here in salt lake county. And all of the carpet that had been brought in from all the different places had been piled together. So our investigators went through each piece of carpet. Thats a nasty job. That was terrible. We actually burned our clothes afterwards because we were walking in all this stuff. They found a couple of carpet scraps but no way to prove they came from ferrys house. Making those blood samples theyd taken from the wall even more critical. It was weeks later when they heard back from the lab. And then the blood work comes back and whoops. Blood work came back and it was negative for blood. Not only were the samples not annies blood, it wasnt even blood at all. A major blow to the investigation. Didnt mean hes not good for the crime . It doesnt mean that hes not good for the crime. It led us to believe that, okay, it didnt happen here at the ferry residence. So ferry might be good for this thing, but boy, youre just not getting there . Yeah. The only bright spot, daniel ferry wasnt getting out of jail. He was also being investigated for an unrelated kidnapping and assault case in a neighboring town. So hes on ice while you guys can develop your theories about his involvement in this thing . Yeah. They continued to investigate ferry. Months went by. Lead detective Derek Johnson was promoted to sergeant, which meant jaclyn moores dream of making detective finally came true. Maybe a case of beware what you wish for. One of her first assignments was the Annie Kasprzak murder. How did you feel about it . That this was now going to be your case . I cried for two hours. Jaclyn decided she needed to start again from the beginning, following the chain of evidence that led her colleagues to daniel ferry. She thought she might link ferry to annie through his phone calls. But when she checked all of his cell phone records showed he was in the middle to northern part of salt lake county. He had never gone south, close enough to where annie was killed. Not even near her house. And she well knew the physical evidence wasnt there either. None of the dna came back saying annie was ever a friend or ever at his house. Detectives had never found enough evidence to make a murder charge stick. And it turned out there was an explanation. Remember, while under suspicion for annies murder, ferry was arrested for an unrelated kidnapping in a different town. The charge stuck. Ferry eventually pleaded guilty and was sent to prison. Draper police came to believe it was this kidnapping that star witness joanna had recounted to them. She had seen a totally different crime. Not annies murder. Whats more, it happened on the same night annie was killed. No way daniel ferry could have committed both crimes. So now rookie detective jaclyn moore went back to the boxes and binders piled high on her desk. I felt lost. I decided i need to start from the beginning and see what information derek had when he first got the case. And so began the education of a detective. She started reading through pages and pages of annies notes and journal entries. Who does annie turn out to be, the more you learn about her . Shes very lost. She wants to be loved by anyone and everyone. And jaclyn saw that there was one person in particular annie wanted to be loved by. Chris bagshaw. His name was scribbled all over her journals. Veronica remembered annie gushing about him. She liked him. He was different. He had enough of the bad boy going on that he wasnt a goody twoshoes, so she didnt feel like he looked down at her. Annies diaries revealed Something Else too. She and chris had sex. Chris was the boy annie had slept with just months before her death, after which remember, she lied about being pregnant. I am starting to think that she made up the pregnancy to keep chris around because he didnt want to be with her anymore. Next, jaclyn pored over annie and chriss phone records from the night of the murder. Not only was chris the last person annie spoke to, but the pattern of their calls spoke volumes. 30 seconds here and then it hangs up. Immediately one of them calls the other back. Sometimes the call is ignored. Sometimes chriss phone is blocked. What do you think is going on . It looks like a fight. It looks like theyre yelling at each other and hanging up on each other. Chris had no criminal record, and no eyewitness put him at the scene. And there was still the mysterious l. J. , annies reported boyfriend whom police could never find. Not in any police database, not anywhere. That is, until jaclyn knocked on one more door. Hey. Hows it going . Hi. Are you jack . Yes. Im detective moore. This is detective johnson. Her close buddy and predecessor Derrick Johnson was by her side when she went to interview annies friend jackson. He told them the same story that theyd been hearing all along, annie telling friends she was pregnant. Nothing new. But then they asked jackson if he knew who l. J. Was. His answer floored them. She would always refer to this guy as l. J. , and i asked her, well, whats his real name . She said chris. Coming up a stunning revelation. Was l. J. All along just annies nickname for Chris Bagshaw . 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Derek was just 32 years old, leaving behind his wife and his 6yearold son and his family at draper p. D. You know, everybody talks about a cops cop and the best cop you can have and how he treated and served the community. Derek was one of those guys. For jaclyn moore, the loss was twofold. He was starting to get some free time to come help me with the case and tell me more about what he did when he was on the case. And then he was killed. I didnt have anyone else to ask. Youd lost your friend. Your old competitive friend. I lost my friend, and i lost any information that i needed on that case. There was no one else. Because he was kind of the institutional memory of this thing, wasnt he . Yes. Jaclyn had only herself to rely on now. In the balance, justice for annie, now dead for a year and a half. She strongly suspected Chris Bagshaw knew more than he was telling. What she needed did you but didnt have was something tying chris to annie the night she was killed. So jaclyn went through every interview, every piece of evidence on chris. The clothes he handed over to police early on came back clean. No presence of annies dna or blood anywhere. But then there were the shoes he handed over. Do you mind if we see your nikes . Sure. Jaclyn listened to chriss interviews again and again and noticed Something Interesting chris said about his shoes. She had a bloody nose last time i hung out with her, and we were sitting right next to each other, and she did drip it on my shoes. Do you remember where on the shoe . It was on my shoelaces. Im not sure which shoe it is. When was that . About five days ago, me and my friend spencer were hanging out, and she just came over. Spencer. Remember jaclyn had seen him coming into the station in the days following annies murder. She had a gut feeling back then that he was hiding something. And detectives at the time asked for his phone. Do you have an idea why we took your phone . For call logs . Well, no thats part of the reason, but there was a message on there that were kind of interested in. Do you know what that message is . It was a message from chris. The cops might come back to your house. I need you to tell them that annie got a bloody nose so i dont get blamed. He told me about the he said something about the bloody nose. That i actually dont remember seeing. I remember hearing it, though. Lab results eventually did show annies blood was on chriss shoes. Detectives questioned him about it during a second interview. Okay. It would have just been one drop . Yeah. But then his story began to change. Where did it drip on your shoe . There was a little bit on the shoelace and then there was a little bit right here. Okay. So those are two separate drops you could see . Yeah. In fact, the lab found more than just those two spots of blood. They found several. But studying the case file, jaclyn noticed that the lab didnt test every spot to see if it belonged to annie. They also hadnt tested the bottom of chriss shoes. So what do you do . Well, at that point we went with a private lab to see if they could test the shoes further. It appeared the bottom of the shoe, both shoes, were soaked in blood. It seemed like damning evidence. But after testing that blood further it came back with two males and two females. Again, nothing you can take to the jury. Right. Six months passed and more dead ends. It had now been two years since annies murder. I was starting to think maybe were not going to actually solve this case. But jaclyn was tenacious. She enlisted the help of a cellphone expert, a former homicide detective named cy ray. There are certain cases like this case when you hear the details and you see the agencys having challenges. How do you not get involved . He reviewed 35,000 of Chris Bagshaws calls and texts. And one call stood out. An incoming call at 9 01 p. M. The night annie was killed. What really stood out is we see these 25 handoffs. Handoffs, the signal bouncing from tower to tower. The signal strength had to be so similar within those four towers, and a very poor signal at that, that it would cause the handing off that we saw. Eventually they found it, the only spot in town that caused the strange pattern of pings. It was at the jordan river, the very spot where annie was killed. We feel very, very comfortable saying at 9 01 p. M. On march 10th, the phone was within 100 meters of where were standing. It turned out of all the people who could have called chris that night, the one who did at precisely 9 01 p. M. Was annies mom veronica. That was because of something annie had told veronica earlier that morning, something about chris. Hed asked her what would you do if i asked you to run away with me . Run away . Then i told her, you know, if youre ever missing, hes the first person im calling. 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While we support the Police Department and the Attorneys Office and we appreciate all the work that they have continued to do, it does not change what happened. February 29th, 2016. Almost four years since annies murder. And darwin christopher bagshaws trial was just a week away. He had refused to talk to police and pleaded not guilty. We were preparing for trial the following week. And i got a phone call that chriss attorney scheduled a hearing that day. Jaclyn, by then a sergeant with the utah state police, ran down to court and barely made it in time. When she got there, she saw chris standing before the judge. The case is set for a changeofplea hearing today. Are we Going Forward with that, mr. Brown . Yes, we are, your honor. There was no deal offered, just a change of heart. Are you pleading guilty to the charge because youre guilty of it . Yes, your honor. Chriss attorney said chris wanted to take responsibility for what he had done. All right. Then as to count one, murder, a firstdegree felony, how do you plead . Guilty, your honor. A guilty plea, confirming what jaclyn had pieced together over the years of her investigation. And she had a theory about how it all went down. So march 10th, annie is discussing over the phone what her options are for her baby with chris. And chris is telling her hes come up with a plan and they can run away and be together. Jaclyn thinks chris really believed annie was pregnant. So he persuaded her to meet him at the river. But chris has no intent on running away. Chriss only reason for being there is to kill her. So he just starts beating her until she dies. Turns out to be a very sloppy crime. The amount of blood. Mmhmm. I feel that he betrayed annie more than he betrayed us. Annie knew him. And annie trusted him. At his sentencing chris sounded remorseful. Im very sorry for everything thats happened, and i want to apologize to annies family and to my family and to everybody in court today for putting everybody through this. Still trying to put words into everything that has happened. But for veronica no amount of im sorrys could make up for what she and annies entire family lost. May you feel sadness. May you feel loss. May your tears heal your soul. But may your conscience never clear. I will grieve my daughter every day. And so for the charge of murder, a firstdegree felony, ill sentence you to an indeterminant term of not less than 15 years. Chris bagshaw robbed annie of her future, and now a judge decide his fate. It would be 15 years to life in prison. Jaclyn has other cases to work these days. But this one, annies case, will surely hold a special place in her heart. Do you think derek would have approved . His confidence in you would have been vindicated finally . I wished so bad he was there. Annie started off as a case for veronica, too, but she became so much more. We put her ashes in the ocean so that so that she would never be in one place and so that wherever we were at we could feel like she was there. Despite the horrific events that took away her daughter, veronica is still as determined as ever to continue to do good work and to help children in need. She and james have since adopted five more children. It is just what annie would have wanted them to do. Im craig melvin. And im natalie morales. And this is dateline. Out of the blue one day, you have a collect call from an inmate at sing sing correctional facility. Like okay. Do you think the system works . And were going to beat this. We didnt. Hes become my brother. I want to see him out. Life was cheap that night in new york. Two brutal murders just a half mile apart. Here for a homicide crime scene. Six people were convicted, including eric glison. You actually think they read ro