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MSNBCW Dateline Extra December 14, 2020

They were very happy together. Suddenly, an intimate moment turned to infinite terror. I just hear help. Someones in trouble. I was scared. I was scared. A husband found murdered in a closet. A wife tied up in another. They found her on the ground with her hands behind her back. She just had bruising on her arms and on her face. Inconsolable, screaming, crying. Reporter who could be behind this . It just eats me up inside reporter their only daughter, desperate for justice for her dad. Be careful what you wish for. Everybody gasped. Nobody could believe it. This terrifies me because this could happen to anybody. Reporter the Scented Candles were lit. The jacuzzi jets turned on high. It was a belated anniversary evening but not some big blowout. Sandra and jamie really werent that kind of couple. They were just always so kind to each other and always very respectful. Reporter it was really the start of a life victory lap for the two. They had raised a daughter, juggled all the usual things that families do, and now retirement for jamie was right around the corner. They sat there and they talked about the future, and what they were looking forward to. Reporter but the future for these two would last no longer than the flame on that candle. By the next afternoon, there would be blood, lots of it. Somehow, someone had turned a cozy celebration into a monstrous crime scene. It was just it was horrible. What in the world had happened in that house . I have no idea. Reporter the story of the two begins as high school meetcute. Sandra, the new girl from laredo assigned a seat in her houston classroom just in front of jaime melgar. Their daughter lizz doesnt know how many times she heard that story. He used to pull on her hair. Oh, youre kidding. In the middle of class. Whos this guy behind me, pulling on my hair . Yeah. Apparently, one time he invited her ice skating. And he told her a bunch of friends were going so it wouldnt really be a date. When she shows up there, its him and one of his friends, and his friend left shortly after that. So a little bit of a scheme going on. Yeah a little bit. But, you know, it ended well. Reporter and that was that. Sandra and jaime were a done deal, an inseparable couple. Sandra studied nursing, and jaime set aside every dime he could for his family, juggling a job as a Computer Programmer while investing in real estate. Happy family . Very happy family. I was definitely a daddys girl growing up. Personality, lizz, your dad . He was very analytical and he was conservative, and he was very loving, and he was very dedicated to family. He was an immigrant from guatemala . Yes, he came here when he was 3. His mother brought the family here. He made a life for himself from nothing. Reporter and jaime carried himself with a certain goofy joy as his niece Marissa Campos remembers it. Easy going guy . Yes, very easy going. Easy to talk to. Had the worst jokes. They were so bad that you would just stop and groan. And they became known as jim jokes. Reporter marissas aunt sandra would roll her eyes, then laugh indulgently at uncle jim. I remember her being like, oh, your uncle. Oh. Reporter the melgars life revolved around not just family, but church, too. Theyd joined the jehovahs witnesses early in their relationship, but by her early 20s, daughter lizz had left the church. Newly independent, she rushed into a marriage. A bad one. I got married when i was about 22, and we ended up divorced not long after. Maybe a year. True that he was involved in heavy drugs . Yes. And wanted you to follow him down that path . Yeah. That was the end of it . That was it. I didnt want to live that kind of life, and he couldnt step away from it. So we had to part ways. Reporter but her parents marriage just kept going through sickness and health. In fact, in recent years, jaime was looking younger than ever on a vegetarian diet and exercise regimen. He realized he was getting older and he just wanted to make sure he was in the best physical shape. Your mom. Your poor mom meanwhile had a constellation of health problems. Yes. Lupus. Chemotherapy involved in that. At times. She also had epilepsy. Did she have the seizures . Did you ever see her . Yes, she did. Artificial hips. Moving about with a cane. Did she feel sorry for herself that this had happened to her . No, she never did. She never complained. She was a very strong woman. Reporter then december 2012 rolled around. Their 32nd wedding anniversary. Sandra was ill on the actual day, so they went out together ten days later on december 22nd. She was finally feeling well enough to go and have dinner. Reporter the next day, the 23rd, marissas family would join them to celebrate again over a late lunch. On our way there, i remember texting him. Texting your uncle . Yes. I didnt get a response but was that unusual that he didnt text you back . Yes. Reporter they got to the house around 4 00 p. M. And knocked on the front door. Nothing. No answer. Reporter marissas father, jaimes brother, herman, checked around the back of the house. No sign of jaime or sandra. We thought, okay, maybe they left. Maybe they went to go get something. My dad is like, no, his truck is out there. Finally thats when my dad said, im going to go inside. Reporter herman walked through an open garage door and entered the house itself through an unlocked interior door. Then he comes around to open up the front door. Reporter the visitors huddled in the dark entrance hall, expecting a greeting from sandra or jaime. But none came. Just as they got ready to leave, they heard something. It sounded like sandra. It was mumbling. Where was her voice coming from, marissa . We did not know. My dad, i just remember, just ran straight into the master bedroom. Reporter marissa raced after her father. I just hear her saying help, someones in trouble. Reporter the voice was coming from inside a walkin closet attached to the bathroom. Herman moved closer. Wedged against the doorknob was a dining chair. He tugged it aside, opened the door, and there was sandra on the floor, tied by her arms and ankles but alive. He said that she did not look well at all. Reporter as marissas mom cut sandra loose, her dad spoke. Wheres my brother . Wheres your uncle . Reporter the answer to that unspeakable. Coming up she looked like she had aged ten years overnight. Broken and lost. Reporter Sandra Melgar, the only possible witness to a night of terror. What would she remember . When unspeakable continues. Chicago okay, so, magnificent mile for me i thought i was managing my moderate to severe Crohns Disease. Until i realized something was missing me. You okay, sis . My symptoms were keeping me from really being there for my sisters. 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I just saw his his ankles. And this was what, in a closet area off their master, huh . Yeah. So you just saw his feet . Mmhmm. I didnt even know what had happened to him. I just know his ankled were tied up. It was horrible. Reporter there was jaime, naked, covered in blood on the floor, not far from his safe. A red rope encircled his chest, a phone cord looped around his ankles. Sandra now freed of her ties sprang from her closet captivity. A former nurse, she checked for his pulse and found none. Your aunt is distraught. Shes crying . Yes. Marissa, what in the world had happened in that house . I have no idea. Im not sure who could have done Something Like that to him to them. It didnt make sense to you at the time. This is going to take a while to digest what these events are, what youre seeing, huh . Correct. Reporter First Responders werent exactly sure what theyd been dispatched too either. They told us theres possibly two victims and thats all we knew when we got there. Reporter emt Stephanie Robinson was the First Responder on the scene. She checked on jaime. What did you see . I walked through the front door. I was escorted by the niece to the back bedroom, and she said, hes in there, and she just pointed to her right. I glanced in, and it was a closet, and he was scrunched down in the closet. He was clearly dead . Clearly dead, yeah. You know gunshot wounds from knife wounds. You couldnt really tell. There was so much dry blood. I didnt notice the gash down his neck. Reporter next, emt robinson found her way to sandra, by then collapsed on a chair in the bathroom, a Family Member by her side. She was kind of balled up a little bit, and she was crying hysterically. Reporter the emts started to assess sandra, who said her head hurt but she said she has no injuries. Reporter still, sandra seemed disoriented. What time was it . Morning or afternoon . Then between gulping sobs, sandra said she simply could not remember what happened the night before. Shed been unconscious, maybe had one of her seizures. She said after a seizure, that its not uncommon that she falls asleep for several hours. Reporter by now, Harris County sheriffs investigators had descended on a crime scene that was once just the melgars modest home. Jaime, they could see, had suffered multiple stab wounds to the torso. By the looks of it, well over a dozen. The crime scene unit got to work inside, collecting evidence, things like a bloody chair near jaimes body and a kitchen knife fished out of the bottom of the jacuzzi. Sandra, seemingly in shock from her ordeal, declined to go to the hospital. Instead, she went to talk with investigators. Sandra told investigators the last thing she remembered was her anniversary night with jaime. We went out to eat. What time was that . That was about 8 00. Im just guessing. I dont know. Reporter sandra told them they stopped for mixers at a cvs on the way home. What time did you get home . Um, probably midnight. Reporter she said they intended to share some latenight romance, candles and strawberries. We made some drinks, and we got in the jacuzzi. In your master bathroom . Right. And then what . Reporter but the intimate jacuzzi was interrupted by their dogs barking outside in the office. He got out and said he was moving the dogs to the office cause when theyre too loud, we dont want the neighbors to complain. Reporter maybe thats when she had the seizure. As they talked, sandra broke down. Who could have done this, she wondered . She recalled for the detectives the scary moment on their way home. I think when we left cvs, there was a car following us because when we came in our neighborhood, it was still behind us. Reporter something for the detectives to check out. After sandra was done talking, her cousin, diana, who had rushed into town to help, met her at a friends house. When i first saw her, she was unrecognizable to me. She looked like she had aged ten years overnight, and she couldnt stop shaking. And so i didnt want to ask her too many questions. I was just happy that she was alive, but i knew she was hurting because jim wasnt lizz, remarried now, was an ocean away, living in europe when she finally got her mother on the phone. What did you hear in her voice . She was just broken and lost. She was just devastated. And at that point you had very fragmentary information, huh . I knew my dad was killed in a Home Invasion, and thankfully my mom was still alive. Just not any kind of news you should ever hear. Its shocking. It really doesnt sink in for a while. You just kind of go into crisis mode, put your head down and try and get things done so you can get back home. Reporter lizz booked the next flight back to texas. I knew i had to get there. Reporter had to get back, back to a new reality with a murdered father and a traumatized mother. 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So the next day, when detectives came by the house where lizz and sandra were staying, the daughter was the one to field their questions. And you flew in, uh, yesterday . Yes. Thats right. Okay. Reporter and lizz thought it prudent to record the conversation. She updated the detectives on her mothers health. Shes just in complete shock, and she has retrograde amnesia at the moment. She has a hard time remembering things as it is because of the seizures. Reporter lizz had witnessed her moms seizures before. And now she theorized thats what might have kept her alive during the Home Invasion. I think she she probably had a seizure and that probably freaked out whoever was there, and maybe they thought they killed her. Reporter the detectives asked lizz to keep them updated on her recovery. Because if she could ever remember a suspect, thats the best thing for me and him. No i agree. Yeah. cause then we have a description, everything else, right now at this point. We have nothing. Ive been asking. Ive been asking her. Reporter and then the detectives asked lizz if she could pay a visit to her parents house. Anything you thinks missing, because we need to start searching for the items that are missing. I cant imagine you going back to this house, where youve kw your prents in happy times, and then its a crime scene. Absolutely. Its the one place youre supposed to be safe. And its just been, i dont know. Its been tainted. Reporter she went through the house room by room, cataloging what she thought was missing. A tv set, jewelry, cash, and medication. Last stop, the garage. The grauarage was full of thing that could easily be stolen and pawned. Yeah. Reporter there lizz spied something to her eyes oddly out of place. Her middle school backpack. Sticking out of it, an xbox console. Could this have been the killers loot dropped in a panic as he ran from the scene . Lizz called investigators. They returned to the house, snapped even more photos, and collected the backpack as potential evidence. Theyd later find beneath that xbox some of sandras jewelry. And lizz realized she had an idea for detectives too, a possible suspect. Is it true, lizz, you even suggested they take a look at your ex at that point . Yes. I had tried to give them as much information as i could. Reporter yes, the exhusband the melgars regards as a noaccount. Turns out during the rocky last days of his marriage to lizz, the melgars suspected he and a buddy lifted some of sandras medication, the same sort now believed to be missing. The melgars never reported their suspicions to authorities, but now lizz told d

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