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Morning. The state of florida has shattered the alltime record for new cases of coronavirus in a single day, recording more than 15,000 cases on sunday. That is 3,000 more than the previous record set by new york state back in april. Hospitalizations also increased in florida with more than 18,000 seeking treatment. Despite the increase in cases, disney opened parts of its orlando park over the weekend, and Governor Ron Desantis who was slow to enact restrictions and quick to lift them is set to reopen schools next month. Heres wh ees what admiral brer said about sending students back to school in the fall. Im want to emphasize. Im a pediatrician. We have to do this safely. Kids not in school, risk their social and emotional health, risk getting nutrition, child sexual abuse. Its really important to get kids physically back in school, but we do have to do that safely, and the first thing we need do is get the virus under control. When we get the virus more under control, then we can really think how we put children back in the classroom. So the president and members of his administration, theyre ramping up the pressure on state and local leaders to reopen schools in the fall. During an interview on cnn yesterday, the education secretary betsy devos repeatedly pressed how the administration plans to have children safely return. Heres what she had to say. Can you assure students, teachers, parents that they will not get coronavirus because theyre going back to school . Well, the key is that kids have to get back to school. There is no nothing in the data that would suggest that kids being back in school is dangerous to them. It sounds like what youre saying is you as the secretary of education is compelling you are compelling schools to reopen regardless of whats happening. No. What were saying is kids need to be back in school. Lets move on to what happens if theres an outbreak. What are experts telling you about the appropriate level of transmission for a school before it has to shut down . Well, i know that thats an area that the cdc is helping to provide further insight into. I cant as a nonphysician or a nonmedical expert tell you precisely what to do in the case of one child in the classroom or five children in a classroom, but the key is every school should have plans for that situation to be able to pivot and ensure that kids can continue learning at a distance if they have to for a short period of time. Youre the secretary of education. Youre asking students to go back. So why do you not have guidance on what a school should do just weeks before you want those schools to reopen, and what happens if it faces an outbreak . You know, theres really good examples that have been utilized in the private sector and elsewhere, also with frontline workers and hospitals. And all of that data and all of that information and all of those examples can be referenced by leaders who have the opportunity do you have a plan for what students and what schools should do . The plan so skals shou s the plan so skals shouchod do whats right on the ground at this time for their students and for their situation. Okay. So we have more in another interview on fox news on sunday. Secretary devos was questioned about the administrations threat to pull funding from schools that dont fully reopen in the fall. Under what authority are you and the president going to unilaterally cut off funding, the funding that has been approved from congress, and most of the money goes to disadvantaged students or students with disability, and, secondly, isnt cutting off funding exactly the wrong answer . Dont you want to spend more money to make school safer, whether its with plastic shields or health checks, various other systems . Doesnt it make more sense to increase funding for schools where its unsafe rather than cut off funding . Look. American investment in education is a promise to students and their families. If schools arent going to reopen and not fulfill that problem, they shouldnt get the funds. Then give it to the families to decide to go to a school that is going to meet that promise. Its a promise to the American People. Lets follow through on the promise. You cant do that. I know you support vouchers, and thats a reasonable argument, but you cant do that unilaterally. You have to do that through congress. Well, were looking at all the options because its a promise to the American People, to students and their families, and we want to make sure that promise is followed through on. Safe to say, not a lot of straight answers there. But while this is happening, new york city wants the epicenter of the outbreak reporting its first death, the milestone marking the end of a fourmonth stretch. According to the cdcs health department, theres not been a day without a covidrelated death since march 13th. Thats two days since the first reported death. The progress is coming in the shadow of an evergrowing spike in other parts of the country. Also, the white house is attempting to discredit Infectious Disease expert dr. Anthony fauci amid his dire warnings about the Trump Administrations coronavirus response. A white house official telling nbc news yesterday this. Several are concerned about the number of times dr. Fauci has been wrong on things. The administration then shared a list with several news outlets that included nearly a dozen past comments by fauci, which a trump official had said ultimately proven erroneous. The list included his january comment that the virus was not a major threat, and his guidance in march that, quote, people should not be Walking Around with masks. Meanwhile a Senior Administration official telling the Washington Post dr. Fauci no longer tweets trump and is never in the oval office anymore. Fauci last spoke to him during the first week of june. Fauci has not yet comment on some of these reports. Joining me now, white house and washington reporter for politico, daniel lippman. Daniel, good morning to you. Great to see you on this monday morning. Thank you for getting up early for us. Thank you. Lets talk about the latest report with regards to dr. Fauci and his past assessment. What are you learning about the white houses effort to possibly discredit him . Yeah. Theyre not happy with some of the comments that hes made on tv in the last week or so where he has said that the u. S. Is not doing a good job containing this virus, and so they view it as implicit criticism of the president. And, you know, the focus right now is reopening the economy right now and getting a handle on that spike in cases, but clearly they think fauci only causes more press headlines that are negative for the president , and they, you know, want to discredit him a little bit. They really cant fire him since hes a career Civil Servant and there are no plans to do that right now, but it definitely is very unprecedent to have a white house official sending talking point Opposition Research on a fellow member of the administration. Meanwhile, if were looking at polling throughout the entire pandemic, dr. Anthony fauci has been held in incredibly high regard amongst the American People and they trust him and what he says about the spread of this pandemic. Lets talk about getting back to schools here as there has been a lot of controversy over that, daniel. Listen. I know a lot of folks here, a lot of frnds that i have. They are frustrated about the possibility that their schools may not fully reopen. In that same regard, though, theyre worried about their children possibly getting sick or being superspreaders. There is a strong divide as were seeing and as i played as to how to handle the reopening of schools. You have betsy devos saying you have to get schools open but not necessarily clear about the guideline if there is, in fact, an outbreak. Then you have admiral giroir saying we need to get this virus under control. It is important to get the schools open, but its important not to have 15,000 cases in a state like florida. What are you hear something. Yes. Its clearly a balancing act, and i think the Trump Administration is focused on opening the schools because of how the Economic Impact of having, you know, parents stay at home and unable to go to their jobs, you know. Most people are not rich enough to hire fulltime babysitters or people who are going to basically educate their kids during the day, and so they have not had a strategy to reopen schools. They havent really met with, you know, unions since march early march, and so i think the onus right now is on local School Districts and states to decide how theyre going to reopen because it doesnt seem like theres a strategy from the federal level thats working properly. Yeah. It certainly does not. Daniel lippman, stay close. Im going to talk to you again in just a little bit, my friend. Still ahead, everybody, President Trump commutes the sentence of a longtime ally, robert stoechblt and in a rare moment, bob mueller breaks his silence. Also, the president wears a face mask in public for the very first time. Those stories and, of course, a check on your weather when we come back. Check on your weather when we come back. 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Late friday President Trump commuted the 40month prison sentence of longtime ally roger stone who was due to report to prison on july 14th. The commutation came hours after roger stones emergency motion to delay his surrender date to september due to the coronavirus. The president called stone on a friday to personally deliver this news as the white house issued a lengthy statement attacking the investigation that produced the charges. It reads in part, this, quote, mr. Stone was charged by the same prosecutors from the Mueller Investigation tasked with finding evidence of collusion with russia. The simple fact is that if the special counsel ha not been pursuing an absolutely baseless investigation, mr. Stone would not be facing time in prison. Stone was convicted of lying congress, witness tampering, and obstruction of the Mueller Investigation in a Trial Attorney general bill barr regarded as, quote, righteous. Bill barr learned he was among the president ial advisers who advised against the commutation with the white house fearing political backlash on this. So former special counsel bob mueller responded to the statement with a defense of his investigation. In an oped in the Washington Post, mueller explained why stone was a central figure in his investigation of russian interference in the 2016 election. He writes in part this, quote, he commuted in 2016 with individuals known to us with russian Intelligence Officers and he claimed advance knowledge of wick kileakswikileaks relea stolen by those russian Intelligence Officers. A jury later determined he lied repeatedly to members of congress. He lied by denying he had communicated with the Trump Campaign about the timing of wikileaks releases, and he tampered with a witness, imploring him to stone wall congress. We make every decision in stones case as in all our cases based solely on the facts and the law and in accordance with the rule of law, claims to the contrary are false. Joining me now, msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos. Good morning, danny. Good to see you. Good morning. Welcome back. Thank you. Talk about commuting the sentence and how that could actually be better for roger stone than a pardon. Generally as a prisoner, you want a pardon before a commutation because a pardon essentially erases a conviction. There are some aftereffects. A commutation shortens your sentence, maybe to zero in roger stones case, but roger stone may actually prefer a commutation because if commuted, his verdict stands, and he can continue to appeal it. And during that time, he can assert his fifth amendment privilege. As a defense attorney, i would not allow a prisoner or a defendant to talk about his case while his case is under appeal. So during that time, he can assert the fifth amount. And if someone wants to call him before a grand jury, then he has that privilege. With that pardon, that privilege erases because you couldnt possibly say anything that incriminates yourself because the crime has been deleted. So what does that look like then, asserting the fifth amendment if he plans to move forward. And take that one step further as to how the commutation, the effect it has on his appeal. He can continue to appeal his conviction. Now, the odds are probably against that he could get a new trial or get his conviction overturned, but consider this. That could be years in the making, and, really, that helps President Trump stall any chance that stone would be called before a grand jury. And more than that, it allows stone and trump to perpetuate the russia hoax because during that appeal, that is time that roger stone can perpetuate the narrativ narrative. The entire investigation was baseless. And with the pardon, you can erase all of that. You can get called before the grand jury, before congress, and you can assert the fifth amendment. Strangely people would prefer a pardon. Stone may be a rare case that prefers the commutation to the pardon. Well have to wait and see whether or not mueller does, in fact, once again testify as Lindsey Graham desires. Danny cevallos, thanks again. Great to see you, my friend. Coming up this morning, a fire breaking out on a navy ship in san diego. What officials are saying exactly happened there. Were back in a moment. Saying exactly happened there were back in a moment vo audi etron. The next frontier of electric. Get an exceptional offer at your local audi dealer. Tmobile and sprint have merged. And tmobile has a bigger and Better Network than ever before. With more towers, more engineers, and more coverage. Welcome to tmobile. Americas largest 5g network. Oh, oh, announcer ® onceweekly ozempic® is helping many people with type 2 diabetes like emily lower their blood sugar. 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He wrote, kellys life and love will always be remembered. I will be taking time to be there for my children who have lost their mother, so give me in advance if you dont hear from us for a while. Now, the couple had three children, one of whom died back in 2009 from a seizure. Travolta and preston had one of the longest marriages in hollywood, celebrating their 28th wedding anniversary just last year. Kelly preston was only 57 years old. All right. At least 21 people are hurt after a fire broke out on a ship at a u. S. Naval base in san diego, california. Officials say 17 sailors and four civilians are being treated at a hospital for nonlifethreatening injuries. According to the New York Times, an explosion occurred after the fire started and the ship was evacuated. Smoke was seen billowing from the middle of the ship. Its unclear, though, what exactly started this fire. So for your first look at the forecast, i want to go to nbc meteorologist bill karins. Good morning, bill. Its been a while since ive seen you. You were off anld then i was of yes. Reunited. And it feels kind of good. Im was going to go there, but i thought id let you do that. Its exceptionally hot. One area,ite note a mi itarea,. At 2 00 right now its 102 in phoenix. We have a heat dome sitting over the southwest. Thats going to slide over texas as we go throughout the week and eventually toward the southeast. Temperatures will be warming up on the east coast toward the end of the week. We have a lot of heat advisories, heat warnings, 47 Million People impacted. All the way through the panhandle of california. We have numerous record highs that could be broken today, including del rio. It could be 111. Their old record is 106. For texas, its pretty extreme heat. Even through the middle of the week, it doesnt end. Lubbock is going to be 108. How about washington, d. C. . Youve had 17 days in a row at 90plus. Your alltime record is 21. So whats the forecast this week . Of course, more 90s. Yasmin, washington, d. C. , could tie their alltime record on thursday, possibly break it on friday. As far as the only Severe Weather threats, we need know about isolated storms in North Carolina and watch out, our friends in kansas and colorado. That d. C. Has had a sneaky streak. Yeah. Its above 90 degrees across the week. Thats pretty intense. And in arizona, wow, thank god for airconditioners in times like that. Thank you, bill. Still ahead, with Coronavirus Infections surging in the united states, theres new reporting on how testing delays are hampering the countrys efforts to contain this virus. Also, the president s rally in New Hampshire this weekend was postponed. His campaign is blaming Tropical Storm fay, but that may not have been the only reason for canceling. Were going to give you that. Were back in a moment. Give yot were back in a moment handwriting recognition and the audi a4. Get exceptional offers at your local audi dealer. 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Meanwhile areas have been stretched beyond capacity causing shortages of swabs, chemicals, and agents as far away as new york. Theyve been plagued by testing problems as weve repeat lid talked about in the past on this program. In the past four months, testing expanded dramatically, but the federal government never fixed fundamental infrastructure problems, which creates a bigger issue. So for the First Time Since the start of this pandemic, the president wore a face mask in public. Let me say that again. For the First Time Since the start of this pandemic, the president wore a face mask in public. It happened over the weekend during a visit to the military hospital. On saturday the president flew by hospital to the Walter Reed Medical Center in washington to meet wounded servicemembers and Health Care Providers caring for covid patients. According to the Associated Press trump wore a mask in the hallway as his visit began, but he was not wearing one when he stepped off the helicopter at the facility. Since the beginning of the outbreak, the president repeatedly declined to wear a mask at rallies and other Public Events as we reported here as well, and according to the Associated Press, he feared the mask would make him look weak and was concerned it shifted to the Public Health crisis rather than the economic recovery. As you may remember, the only other time trump was photographed during a mask was during a private part of a tour at a ford plant in michigan back in may. So theres a new ad from the Lincoln Project hitting the president on his response to the pandemic. There was a day earlier this year when our nations intelligence and Public Health experts pleaded with donald trump to take the coronavirus seriously. Did he listen . No. What did he do . He probably scrolled through his twitter feed or daydreamed about his next rally or asked Lindsey Graham to play golf or ordered fewer tests. Slow the testing down, please. And now more than 130,000 americans are dead. 3 million americans are sick. Thousands more infected every day. Tens of millions out of work, isolated from the world. And what does trump do . He tells us to live with it. The president is certainly not going to like waking up to that new ad. The president s election rally in portsmouth. Announcer New Hampshire was set to take place over the weekend. Low turnout also motivated the lastminute decision to cancel this rally. New hampshires governor said he would skip the event because of the coronavirus. One adviser to the trump camp told nbc news the weather was a, quote, convenient excuse to scrap the event. And as tthe New York Times is putting it. It was the third time in less than a month that the president s Reelection Campaign failed to relaunch as planned. In the leadup to november, the biden camp could be seeing daylight in states that go completely red. So the New York Times reporting that officials believe there is very real there is a very real possibility that joe biden can win in historically republican states like georgia and texas. As we know, coronavirus cases are surging in those states. They also argue the upcoming election can install a new group of democratic lawmakers that can help redraw legislative maps following this years census, however, bidens camp is more traditionally set on stages. Michigan, wisconsin, North Carolina, and florida. Public and private polling showing the president trailing in michigan and wisconsin and running neck and neck with biden in conservative states like kansas and montana. Lets get into this. Once again, joining me is danny lippman of politico. We have seen crushing polls for the president showing him trailing joe biden. And when you think about red states like texas, like georgia, what do you make of this rise in pressure on bide on the beat the president in the 2020 election and the pressure on the trump camp to turn things around . So democrats feel like they have they want to press their advantage, and they want to have a resounding victory, deliver a big mandate to get rid of trumpism and also ensure that he doesnt claim the election was rigged if it is pretty close. And so if its a resounding result, then its much harder for him to say that. They also want to help senators and congressmen who are running people running for those seats in those red states and also help the state legislative seats because its important for redistricting with the 2020 census. Redistricting starts in the year or two after. So if youre able to get the majority in any of those state legislatures, then you can rewrite the maps to benefit your party. And so thats one reason that democrats feel like this is a golden opportunity for them. When you see, daniel, biden gaining ground in states like texas and georgia, do you think there is any correlation between that polling and the surges that we have seen in the coronavirus in those states . I think its definitely connected because there are many people in those states who with their own eyes are seeing the results of opening too early, and they think maybe the Trump Administration has pressured the states to do that in a way that is not completely safe, and so, you know, they see the results and whats happening, and they blame the president , at least in part. And so that is helping biden to you know, its unprecedent for democrats to be so close in a state like texas where were only down one point. If texas is in trouble, then its going to be a very difficult election for trump. Astounding to see. Daniel lippman, thank you. Great to see you this morning. 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The president gave an update on his workout routine over the weekend, and in the process he falsely claimed he plays less golf than president obama did. Yesterday the president tweeted in part this. My exercise, quote unquote, is playing almost ever during the week a quick round of golf. Obama played more and much longer rounds, no problem. Actually i play very fast. Get a lot of work done on the golf course and also get a tiny bit of exercise. Not bad. But according to one measure, trump has played golf only 44 fewer times than obama did during the course of his entire, entire eightyear tenure in office, just a quick factcheck there. 262 days in the last three years plus and obama 306 times during eight years. So the nfls Washington Redskins announced they will retire their 87yearold name today. The impending move comes after renewed public pressure by the organization saying it would undertake a, quote, thorough review of name. One of the team sponsors fedex has also threatened to remove the name from the stadium. Others have made demands as well, sources telling the Washington Post they will not reveal a new name until a later date because the preferred name is tied up in a trademark fight. Lets go back to bill karins with a check on your forecast and take a look at the covid numbers. Shocking to see some of the numbers we have seen over the weekend, bill. In florida, 15,000 new coronavirus new confirmed cases in the last 24 hours. Crazy. Just to give you some perspective on that, yasmin. New york city, the highest was 12,000. Florida was 15,000. And the numbers from new york was when people didnt know how it was being transmitted and how people were getting it. Heres how it went yesterday. 58,349 new cases. That was on a sunday, which is eyeopening. Usually numbers on the weekend are much lower. Florida has the record for a sing singleday number of 15,300. Were over the mark that has tests positive. Heres the sevenday average. Right now were above 60,000. Thats the new record and thats the first time our sevenday average has been above 60,000 cases. This increase began about a month ago on june 14th. You see the direction. We have not hit the peak of this latest wave or whatever you want to call it. As far as the fatalities went, were currently at the highest sevenday death rate since june 15th. Right now there are 740 new deaths being reported each day. The number on sunday is a little lower, but you see on the end of the graph, we have gone up. Id be curious this week to see if it continues to go up. So as far as the week ahead forecast, we will see a few afternoon thunderstorms in the forecast. Boston, maine, New Hampshire. Also in the south, eastern North Carolina. Weve talked about the extreme heat. Watch for thunderstorms in the middle of the week, heading for chicago by wednesday. And at the end of the week, well see strong thunderstorms heading into the midatlantic and northeast. This is typically, yasmin, the third week thats the peek. Its usually the hottest week of the year. This week will not disappoint. Hot pretty much from coast to coast. Thank you, bill. Still ahead, everybody, a look at how badly the Retail Industry has been hit by the pandemic. The stories driving your business day coming up. The stories driving your business day coming up all strength we aint stoppin believe me go straight till the morning look like we wont wait were taking everything we wanted we can do it all strength, no sweat welcome back. Many businesses have been struggling due to the pandemic, but among the hardest hit might just be the Retail Industry. Cnbcs Julianna Tatelbaum joins us. Great to see you on this monday morning. Talk us through this. No doubt about it. Retailers across america were forced to shut their doors for many weeks to deal with the pandemic, and now were getting some numbers through that show just how severe the impact on business has been. For the first quarter, operating income fell by 58 compared with last year, not including walmart. First quarter income fell by 71 . So very stub substantial hit toe businesses. Many businesses have taken costcutting measures to mitigate the impact and many have filed for bankruptcy as well. As part of the effort to mitigate the impact, the fed and treasury have taken measures to try to support the u. S. Economy. The wall street journal is reporting that there have been disagreements between leaders at the fed and treasury, which have actually slowed the start of their flagship lending initiative. While the disagreements seem to be around the design of the initiatives, the journal suggests its reflective of broader disagreement over approa approach. The treasury is more cautious about lending terms whereas the fed has reported more generous terms in borrowing. Thats something to watch in the coming weeks. Back to you. Can we talk about the disney parks reopening here . As bill and i just mentioned, you had 15,000plus cases in a matter of 24 hours over the weekend, florida really struggling with this pandemic right amidst all of this, you have disney world reopening in orlando. Thats right. Despite the outbreak, surge in florida, specifically on saturday we saw disney open up some of its parks, Magic Kingdom and Animal Kingdom opened and july 15th the Hollywood Studios are going to be open. There are Safety Measures in place, people are required to wear masks, but it seems people are not deterred on the whole from going back despite the virus numbers. Julianna tatelbaum live from london, thank you so much. Up next a look at axios one big thing and on morning joe, debate opening schools continues as florida hits an alltime high for cases in a single day. And well look into the nbc reportings on the efforts to discredit the top Infectious Disease doctor in the nation. Disease doctor in the nation experience the adventure of a bigger world in a highly capable lexus suv. At the golden opportunity sales event. Get zero percent financing on all 2020 lexus models. Experience amazing at your lexus dealer. Its stag erring corruption but i think its important for people to know its a threat to our national security. The whole impeachment process was about our national security. I think when that carest about the rule of law is nauseated by the fact that the president commuted the sentence of someone who lied for the president , intimidated witnesses, obstructed the investigation. It shouldnt matter if you are democrat or republican, this should be offensive to you if you care about the rule of law and justice. Is this an impeachable offense. It is if you abuse the pardon power to protect yourself from criminal liability. But if the republicans wont say a word, of course, theyre not going to vote to impeach and convict. Of course the major news well be discussing this afternoon, that was House Speaker nancy pelosi and adam schiff denouncing the president s decision to commute roger stones sentence calling it, quote, an impeachable offensive. And joining me now with a look at axios a. M. , hans nichols. Give us axios one big thing today . Looking at joe bidens Foreign Policy and how it would differ from donald trump. Theyre not going to have to do one or two challenges, they have to deal with multiple challenges across the globe. In reporting this, some of the most important things i picked up was the tone in their voice, the sense of thread in a confluence of crisis coming together, you have china and iran, and the coronavirus, and the coronavirus theyre not just thinking about the if national, theyre thinking a global food c crisis. Biden, the hope is his muscle memory will kick in and this will be an appliances first strategy, opposed to america first. So if this is about reengaging with countries across the world, hans, during a biden administration, how could other countries trust a biden administration, considering the fact that trump undid so much of what obama put into place . They acknowledge that challenge. This isnt simply showing up at the security conference and giving a speech. This isnt doing what they think the low hanging fruit is, rejoining the Paris Agreement or making a statement on the importance of nato. This is from day one on the presidency of joe biden should he win, how do you convince the world that americas word is its bond. They think because theres a dangers in capitols all across the country, they think the biden presidency an aberration and the trump is a true america. And the isolationism that trump represents is the default that america snaps back to. Theyre aware of the challenges but they point back to joe biden has 40, 50 Years Experience talking to allies and has a lot of personal relationships he can try to draw on. A president is only as strong as the people he surrounds himself with. Talk us through what you are learning about who would staff a biden west wing. Theres a core biden team, you have anthony blinken, biden could be important blinken, excuse me, is important. You have susan rice potentially as Vice President , Samantha Power as potentially secretary of state. You have mike and tom donlin, who have been with biden throughout his entire career. A lot of these folks were the obama team, i think we should note that. But there was always a core gien team within the obama team. And biden and obama had serious policy differences during the presidency, libya, biden wasnt for intervening, biden wanted to keep mow bar rick in egypt. And most recently, and this cuts in less of the isolationist matter, but you had joe biden advocating for sending the ukrainians javelin mills and are president policy opposed to it. Biden is skeptical of intervening in the middle east but hes more for the u. S. Intervention across the globe than perhaps the president he served with, president barack obama. Hans nichols great to see you this morning. Love the animal mural in your background, im sure room raider will be weighing in on that. The animals dont judge, except the owl. Theyre not judging you, never yazmin. Well read axios a. M. In just a little bit. That does it for me on this monday morning. Im yasmin vossoughian. Morning joe starts now. Everyone in the media was saying florida was going to be like new york or italy and that has not happened because we understood we had a diverse state, the outbreak was not uniform throughout the state and we had a tailored and measured approach that not only kept our numbers below what was predicted. You have a lot of people in your profession who waxed poetically for weeks how florida was going to be new york, wait two weeks. H ell were eight weeks from that and it hasnt