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Everybody. It is august 4th, and im yasmin vossoughian. Lets start with the coronavirus. So despite the number of cases here in the United States climbing and the death toll growing, the president is continuing to paint a rosy picture of this pandemic. Right now infections are surging in some midwestern states that did not previously have high case rates. Over the past week, missouri, montana, and oklahoma have seen a large increase in the percentage of case numbers and there are new warning signs in new jersey. A state that appeared to have flattened its curve, nbc news is showing the cases have spiked 175 in the last two weeks, but the president claiming yesterday that the u. S. Is starting to see declining signs. Were beginning to see evidence of significant progress. I have to add that the virus is rece receding. In hot spots across the south and west, weve seen slow improvements from their recent weekly peaks. We must focus on the flareups where new cases have risen including georgia, mississippi, texas, oklahoma, and missouri. I think youre going to find theyre very soon going to be under control. So the president s message there stands in stark contrast to what his own Health Experts are saying. As a reminder, i want to play foryou what dr. Deborah birx said just the day before those remarks from the president. What were seeing today is different from march and april. It is extraordinarily widespread. Its into the rural as equal urban arias. For those in the rural areas, you are not immune or protected from this virus. Thats why we keep say nothing matter where you live in america, you need to wear a mask and socially distance. So the president also continued to in cyst yesterds i hydro hydroxychloroquine is effective even though his own Health Experts say otherwise. It has tremendous support but its politically toxic because i supported it. If i would have said do not use hydroxychloroquine under any circumstance, they would have come out and said it was a great thing. Many doctors have come out and said it works. Dr. Fauci said it doesnt work. I dont agree. I like him. I get along with him great. But Hi Department want to ban people coming in from china, but i overrode him and did the right thing. He said masks dont work a short while ago. Hes not bad person. I like him. But we disagree on things. All right. So just to be clear here, dr. Anthony fauci, he has repeatedly dismissed hydroxychloroquine calling it ineffective in treating the virus, and on sunday Admiral Brett Giroir said we need to move on from hydroxychloroquine. Also, in discussing the threat of coronavirus spread, the president pointed to significant flareups overseas. Were doing very well with the vaccines and therapeutics. Flareups in spain, germany, france, australia, japan, and also as you probably heard, in hong kong, theyve had some very serious flareups. Japan has gone yeah, a lot of sixfold flareup. Thats a lot. But theyll get it under control. All right. I want to take a closer look here and factcheck the president a bit. As you see here, the United States recorded far more deaths on august 1st than any of the other countries mentioned there by the president. The president s Reelection Campaign sends an email to supporters urging them to wear face masks in public saying to do so is, quote, patriotic. Hes demeaned the use of masks against him as political. An email sent under the president s name entight ld patriots wear face masks reads in part this. Were all in this together, and while i know there has been some confusion surrounding the usage of face masks, i think its something we should all try to do when we are not able to be socially distanced from others. It continues. I dont love wearing them either. Masks may be goorksd they can be okay. Or they may be great. They can possibly help us get back to our american way of life that so many of us routefully cherished before we were so terribly impacted by and he uses these words the china virus. Jackie manning, thank you for joining us, getting up so early this morning. We appreciate it. Im not sure where to start. We covered a lot in the first six minutes or so, but lets talk about hydroxychloroquine because this president continues to insist on hydroxychloroquine when weve had study after study after study saying not only is it ineffective, it can actually be harmful and kill folks if they have certain conditions. What do you make of it . Yeah, and i think that top line is what, you know, i want to lead with and emphasize, that there are no signs. Additional studies came out that didnt show any connection, but the president has continued to latch on to hydroxychloroquine. Its, you know, sort of in place of masks. Its taken the place in this culture war, what hes used to tout to his defenders, that anything he tries do immediately becomes criticized if he latches onto it. Thats what hes saying. I talked to aides and officials last week about this who told me, you know, that they believed that the president was Still Holding onto this because it represented a glimmer of hope, a glimpse of positive news throughout the pandemic when there hasnt been in. That being said, that doesnt change the actual Science Behind the drug, which isb5 that its t proven to be helpful in curing covid19. Can we go with that glimmer of hope here because it seems more than a glimmer of hope, this rosy picture of what were talking about with regard to this pandemic. When you look at the numbers, it tells a true story when you have 150,000 people dying from this pandemic just in the last four or five months. I think the big question is in painting this, quote unquote, rosy outlook, is it clouding his judgment on how to respond to this crisis, and is he making it all about november . Yeah. Its not just clouding his judgment. Hes willingly ignoringing tingt that 152,000 are dead. Its hitting the midwestern states. Its hitting the rural as well as suburban areas. We have to be embracing it. The president obviously did not like those comments over the weekend an for the first time he attacks dr. Birx who, you know, has received some negative views and criticisms amongst critical Health Experts for enabling and facilitating the president s overly sunny take on the pandemic previously and has lead to the president s miss guide and poor decisionmaking process this. Weekend when dr. Birx offered some blunt talk, you know, to cnn in response to House Speaker Nancy Pelosis criticism, the president was not happy about that, dismissed her comments, called her pathetic, and then went to a White House Briefing yesterday and said the exact opposite of what dr. Birx had recommended. Recommended that the school should be open and the country was doing fine. He continued to hang onto this argument hes been making that the u. S. Is doing better than its been doing in other countries, but we also know thats not accurate as well and numerous other countries have kept their coronavirus, number of cases and deaths below the u. S. Numbers per capita. So i think its really important to factcheck this president every step along the way because as you have pointed out, he is really clinging to this rosy outlook in order to present, you know, a country that really suspect what he says it is, going into the november election. He wants this virus behind him, but its not. It definitely is not. By the way, were going to get into that exchange about Speaker Pelosi later in the show. Washington post jackie alemany, thank you. Well get into that more in a bit. Were getting the clearest picture yet of what led up to this Police Body Camera footage thats been leaked. A warning, some of the images are disturbing. Nbcs Gabe Gutierrez has more. Let me see your hands. Let me see your hands. Im sorry, im sorry. Reporter seconds after Rookie Police officer thomas lane approaches George Floyds vehicle, hes already gone his vehicle. Put your hand up. These body camera videos were viewed in person by nbc news last month but had not been distributed publicly. The daily mail. Com said it received this. Please dont shoot me. Floyd sons as he tells the officer hes been shot before. For the first time the video shows how a call about a fake 20 bill escalated into an encounter that would ignite global outrage. They got him out of the car and struggled to get him to the patrol car. Please. Stay with me. Im not that kind of guy, man. Floyd pleads with the officers. Saying he has anxiety and that he just recovered from covid19. Please, please. My wrist. My wrist, man. My wrist. Prosecutors have charged the officer who then knelt on floyds neck with seconddegree murder and manslaughter. The other three officers are accused of aiding and abetting him. That was nbcs Gabe Gutierrez reporting. The Minneapolis Police department so far has no comment on the body camera videos, neither do the attorneys for three of the four exofficers. The as you see there, george floyd pleading with the officers for mercy. Still ahead, everybody, the fight for President Trumps tax rurns ramping up. The Manhattan District Attorneys Office is looking for possible bank and insurance fraud. Also hurricane isaias made landfall over North Carolina overnight iechlts since been downgraded to a Tropical Storm. 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The prosecutor carrie dunn said it rests on the false premise that the grand jurys investigation leads to hush money payment in 2016. Dunn goes on by saying undisputed assertion in earlier Court Filings that prosecutors say document possible criminal conduct at the trump organization. The president was asked for a reaction to the broader investigation at the coronavirus briefing. This is just a continuation of the witch hunt. Its democrat stuff. They failed with mueller. They failed with everything. They failed with congress. They failed at every stage of the game. Joining me now, msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos. Good morning. Good to see you this morning. Good morning. Talk to me about this. Is the judge likely to find the subpoena overbroad . No, hes likely to find the opposite, i guess, which is underbroad. The trump argument here is the grand jury subpoenas are overbroad because the investigation, they say, was always about hush money payments to women and thats it. Its limited to that. And vances response is essentially, no, youre the only one saying that. We never said its limited to michael cohen. It might be much broader than that. And all that stuff youve been seeing, yeah, take a look at that, and that is you can say thats the scope of our subpoena. You have to understand that grand jury subpoenas enjoy a presumption of validity. So the burden is really on the trump team to quash the subpoenas or strike them down. A court is going to give deference to grand jury subpoena in a case like this. So two things here. Are they not required to basically be forthcoming about exactly what it is that they are investigating . And what happens if cy vance wins . Is it finally over and the documents go to the grand jury . Theyre definitely not required to because thats the entire purpose of grand jury investigations. Theyre secret. Theyre conducted in secret. No Defense Attorneys are allowed in the room. People are not allowed to talk about what they did in the grand jury room. So if the entire purpose of grand jury investigations are secrecy so other people are not hurt by the information, then it makes sense that prosecutors dont routinely have to disclose what their purpose is in convening. And if the trump team loses in theory, they can resume their tactic of appealing, appealing, appealing, and theyve lost at virtually every level. So if they did appeal, i dont know how much more clock they can run out with any court thats passed thon issue. They may pass on it much faster than they did before. Just quickly, do you feel like theres going to be resolution on this before november . I think there may be, but november is so soon, and knowing how slow the courts t s typical move, this is no typical case. And like i said, most of the issues have been ruled upon. This may be the rare case where the court can expedite a final decision and maybe in advance of the november election. 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The cardinals are the second mlb to face a covid outbreak. The Miami Marlins have had their season postponed as the result of a covid outbreak. Lets switch gears and talk about weather. The northeast is bracing for heavy rain and strong wind as Tropical Storm isaias moves up the coast. It made landfall in North Carolina overnight now weakening to a storm. I want to turn to bill karins whos standing by and has been tracking this thing for us. Tell us what youve seen so far and what we can expect in the day ahead. Yeah, good morning to you, yasmin. We had landfall right around 11 15 last night near the South Carolina and North Carolina border. It was officially in North Carolina, their first hurricane landfall since irene in 2011. It had 85mileperhour winds now down to 70 miles. We know theres an island and a bad fire spreading between homes. Had an area of storm surge. We havent had a lot of reports of wind surge. Ne or two rge. Tornados that went through areas around Bald Head Island and possibly up the coastal areas. Were going to see wind dam and tornado damage as we go throughout the day today. Different Tropical Storms can produce different amounts of tornados. This looks like it has a chance of producing a significant coast as it goes up the coast. About to cross from North Carolina into virginia. All of these red polygons to the north, these are current tornado warnings. We have numerous areas, especially east of the richmond area. As far as the Severe Weather threat for the rest of the day, it goes up to coast, maryland, delawa delaware, new jersey, long island. 39 million are at risk for tornadoes as we watch isaias come up the coast. Richmond is now under a flash flood warning. We have 52 Million People under flash flood watches, and it looks like theres going to be a narrow band of very heavy rain fall of 3 to 5 inches that includes the washington, d. 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The big events are back and xfinity is your home for the return of live sports. Welcome back, everybody. Im yasmin vossoughian. Were going to begin this half hour with the president criticizing white house l coordinator dr. Deborah birx on twitter yesterday for saying the pandemic was extraordinarily widespread as she put it. In a tweet the president wrote in part this. So crazy nancy pelosi said horrible things about dr. Deborah birx going after her because shes too positive on combatting the china virus including vaccines and the therapeut therapeutics. In oert to counter that, she took the bait and hit us. Pathetic. You said dr. Birx was taking bait from Speaker Pelosi. What did you mean by that . I think were doing very well, and i think that we have done as well as any nation. I told dr. Birx i think were doing very well. She was in my office a little while ago. Shes a person i have a lot of respect for. So the nations top Infectious Disease expert dr. Anthony fauci came to, bys defense yesterday agreeing the u. S. Is in a new phase as he put it in the pandemic in which the virus is now spreading uncontrolled in some states by asymptomatic people. What dr. Birx was referring to was the prevalence now in the United States as a nation, particularly in some of the states that are having surging of infection is whats called inherent community spread. Its much more difficult to get your arms around that and contain it. Its insidious. There are people who are spreading it who have no symptoms at all. Thats what she meant by a different phase of where were going right now because it isnt easily identifiable who these spreaders are. All right. Lets talk 2020 for a moment. So the Washington Post is reporting that the president s attacks on mail balloting are discouraging his own supporters from embracing it, prompting concern that the strategy is threatening gop prospects in november. Its showing a growing divide between democrats and republicans about the security of voting by mail. Republicans claim they are far less likely to trust the process in november. As a result, state and local republicans across the country fear theyre falling behind in getting voters to actually sign up for absentee voting, which is expecting to be key for this years election. Now, some republican officials have tried to draw a distinction between, quote unquote, absentee ballots which trump claims are secure and mailin ballots which he has repeatedly attacked. The terms are used interchangeably. The reports show that rnc chairwoman mcdaniel have warned the president that his rhetoric is complicating republican turnout efforts. Meanwhile the7 president has threatened legal action against nevada after the state passed a bill to expand mailin voting and left the door open on a potential executive action to counter mailin voting. Theyre using covid to try and get the mailin ballots. Now, absentee ballots are great. Absentee ballots, after they request them, they go through a process. They get them. But the universal mailin ballots have turned out to be a disaster. What nevada has been doing, you have to look at what theyve done. You can have two ballots. Its harvesting. So you can take thousands of ballots, put them together, dump them on somebodys desk after a certain period of time. They have something where if you vote t vote can count up to seven days later. If the vote is going to count seven days later, if it depends on the one state like nevada, that would mean you cant have supposing its down to one state. It could be. Its a great state. But supposing its down to one state. That means you have to wait seven days. But they wont have it there. Again, absentee is great. It works. Like in florida, it really works. But universal mailin ballots is going to be a great embarrassment to our country. We have a right do it. We havent got therein yet. Well see what happens. We will be suing in nevada, and thats already been taken care of. Hmm. Having to wait on one state. Thats interesting. I think weve heard that before. So a quick factcheck here. By the way, there was no evidence of widespread voter fraud in the United States according to numerous investigations and studies at nearly all election proceedings there on a statebystate basis or enshrined in the constitution. And according to the ap vote, theres no precedent to try to curtail mailin ballots by executive order. Johning inin inin ining me aga Washington Post, jackie alema alemany. Wouldnt it be insane if we had to wait on one state for the Election Results . Thats happened before where we waited on one state where things had to be recounted. Is there any chance at all, jackie, from your perspective that trump would actually sign an executive order to counter mailin voting, and do you think republicans would stand for it . Look. There is no precedent or authority for trump to curtail the practice. Thats something that is established. And its something i think that we also discussed last week when the president claimed that he could move the election day from november 3rd because of the coronavirus. That being said, it is possible that the president could sign a piece of paper to formalize his opposition to the practice, but lets be very clear. As you just pointed out, there is no substantive difference between absentee and mailin voting. The paper is mailed to you, and you mail the ballots back. The president has unfounded facts as weve reported the last week are hurting his own party. Theyre discouraging people, his own supporters. And its causing his own local state fw op parties to actually have to device more creative ways to reach their supporters who are, you know, accepting this messaging from the president that it is a fraudulent practice. I talked with glen bulger who told me he received a survey back from a swing state which he wouldnt disclose that showed only 15 of Republican Voters are planning to cast their ballots by mail that were Trump Supporters some of the president is putting his party in a different position. He claims he has the authority on this, but its really unclear what he could do to curtail the practice. Could we quickly talk about the criticism of dr. Deborah birx here . We saw what happened with dr. Anthony fauci and no longer appearing by the side of the president and a lot of backandforth between fauci and the president. What do you make now of the criticism of dr. Birx and do you feel like the president is losing confidence in her . Yes. The walls are caving in for dr. Deborah birx. Not only is she incurring the wrath of nancy pelosi but now the president is calling her pathetic. She was in the group closest to the white house and president who was in his favor, delivering rosy optimistic news that the president embraced, but the tides have turned. Our reporting shows the president has become increasingly frustrated with dr. Birx, associates her with the failure of his administrations handling of the pandemic and shes being pushed further and further out from the inner circle of the decision process thats happening in the white house between, you know, chief of staff mark meadows and jared kushner. Not only that, but her credibility is taking a big hit amongst activists and medical professionals who have worked with her throughout her threedecadeslong career. Jackie alemany with the Washington Post. Thank you. Still ahead, governor cuomos rebuke of the president s handling of the coronavirus pandemic. Your first look at morning joe is back in a moment. K at morni is back in a moment. For bathroom odors that linger try febreze small spaces. Just press firmly and it continuously eliminates odors in the air and on soft surfaces. For 45 days. Is a friendly neighbor. Theyll be coming by to ask simple questions that inform how billions in federal funds are spent on local Services Every year for the next decade. Time is running out. Shape your future. Start here at 2020census. Gov. Welcome back. New York Governor Andrew Cuomo ripped into the president s response to the coronavirus pandemic and rush to reopen the economy. The president of the United States said five months ago, reopen the economy, liberate the states, liberate the economy. These governors are slow walking reopening theyre just plain politics. Thats what theyre doing. Theres no reason not to reopen the economy. Hurry up, hurry up, hurry up. Florida jumps, texas jumps, arizona jumps. Yes, were just going to reopen the economy. That was a mistake. It was an untruth. It denied the science. Denied what theyre saying now. The virus will spread if you do th that. Were six months later, and these states still dont have testing and contact tracing. How can it be . You had six months. Here in new york we had two weeks. We were ambushed because the virus came from europe and nobody told us. These other states had six months. How did you not set up a testing operation . How did you not expand the capacity of your Hospital System . How did you not locate additi additional staff . How did you not locate additional ppe . You had six months. The reason they didnt, they were listening to the president. This was a colossal blunder how covid was handled by the federal government. Colossal blunder. Shame on all of you. Okay. Still ahead, the president says hes willing to allow microsoft to buy the chinese app tiktok but only if the government gets a lot of money in the exchange. Also in the hot seat over privacy concerns. Your business coming up. Y conces your business coming up. Welcome back. The ongoing debate over the tiktok ban escalates after the president said the u. S. Should receive a share of the companys sales. Cnbcs Julianna Tatelbaum joins us. What is the latest on this and good morning, by the way. Good morning to you. This has been a fascinating story to watch develop. President has banned tiktok in the United States as a security risk. Now were looking at microsoft buying it from the chinese owners. President trump now yesterday suggesting that the u. S. Treasury should be paid a, quote, substantial amount of money for facilitating a potential deal for microsoft to buy the operation from bytedance. So suggesting that the u. S. Treasury deserves a finders fee, this kind of scenario would be without precedent. So this is certainly one to continue watching. Now, elsewhere in the social media space, twitter could be facing an ftc fine of up to all it violated an agreement over user data privacy. The ftc has been investigating the company for a while now alleging twitter inproperly targeted ads at users based on information they gave for security purposes. Twitter admitted they targeted users last years based on information people gave for their accounts. And twitter has been under scrutiny recently after the hacking of several high profile accounts. Lets talk about the deal theyre trying to make in washington. So you have the speaker, Speaker Pelosi, saying she doesnt see a deal on the next Coronavirus Relief bill until next week. Give us more what you have on th this. And also, is there any indication that folks would get back pay if they were able to extend the Unemployment Insurance . Speaker pelosi saying its unlikely well get a deal this week. The if we get an agreement its likely to come next week. The key areas of the dispute remain around the extension of the jobless benefits as well as Legal Protection that would shield companies from liabilities if a worker becomes infected with coronavirus after reopening. And congressional leaders have come to a stand still here. They have come to a large agreement on the stimulus, checks another round of those. But on the other issues we remain divided. Itll be a long week no doubt about it and well watch washington this week. Up next a look at axios 1 big thing. Jonathan swans exclusive interview with the president. And coming up on morning joe more on the standoff of Coronavirus Relief congressman Hakeem Jeffreys joins the conversation. And senator gary peters of michigan will be our guest. Morning joe is moments away. Lt morning joe is moments away. Into a smaller life . Are your asthma treatments just not enough . Then see what could open up for you with fasenra. It is not a steroid or inhaler. 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M. , National Political reporter for axios, jonathan swan, the man of the hour after that interview, jonathan. And i want you to take us through it from your perspective. So give us axios 1 big thing today. Thank you. The one big thing is the interview that aired last night on hbo with President Trump. Look, there are many noteworthy moments in this interview. It runs, i think, close to 40 minutes. But for me one of the most striking sections of the interview is when President Trump whips out his own charts to try and make the case in contravention of all Available Evidence that the u. S. Is leading the world on the coronavirus. This is a time when more than at the point the interview was filmed, more than 145,000 americans have died from the virus and 1,000 americans were dying a day. Take a look at some of these charts id love to. Were going to look. Lets look. If you look at death per its starting to go up again. Well, right here, the United States is lowest in numerous categories, were lower than the world lower than the world . What does that mean . Lower than europe. In what . Take a look. Right here. Heres case death. Youre doing death as a portion of cases. Im talking about it as a portion of the population. Thats where the u. S. Is bad, much less than south korea, germany, et cetera. You cant do that. The way that clip ends is him saying you cant do that. What i was doing was pointing out that when you look at death count as a proportion of population, the u. S. Is in horrible shape. Horrible shape. And when you compare america to other advanced countries like south korea and germany, who managed to do testing early and effective contact tracing, its not even close. I just found this, you know, as a matter of history and this moment stunning. You have the president of the United States denying what is in front of him, which is a death count that when you look at it and you match it up against other advanced countries, it cannot in way be described as a good outcome. But thats exactly what hes trying to do. Its applying salesmanship that works in the world of real estate and Reality Television to the worst pandemic in a century. Its ignoring factbased wanting to paint a rosie picture in the country and ignoring 150,000 people that have died over the last six months. I want to get to more of this because there were so many fascinating parts of this interview because you spoke about mailin voting here. I want to play a bit of that. You know, you could have a case where this election wont be decided on the evening of november 3rd. Whats wrong with that . It could be decided two months later. Have you discussed you know why . Lots of things will happen during that period of time, especially if you have tight margins, lots of things happen. We saw it happen in 2000 when we had to wait on Election Results. Its seems as if this president is really against mailin voting because it feels its going to hurt him in the election. Ill be quick here, but reporters have an obligation to explain to voters and said expectations about the election. We are in likelihood not going to know the results on Election Night unless its a blow out because theres going to be a much larger volume of mailin voting. Its a pandemic and we need to establish those facts rather than allowing other theories to fill that space. Jonathan swan, thank you as always. Great to see you this morning and great interview. That does it for me on this tuesday morning, im yasmin vossoughian. Morning joe starts right now. President donald j. Trump is a working class president. Im rich. This campaign is going to match his work ethic. Im an ivy league, i went to ivy league college, i went to wharton school, which is the best Business School in the world. Hes a working class president i just sold an apartment for 15 million. Its all too much. This is they shutdown the campaign its like, meltdown, meltdown at the core and Homer Simpson turns it off. When we turn it on well say mr. Burns is working class here. Its not going to work. The campaign is trying