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Understand is did the nfl even need to see this video . Because i think it was pretty clear to everyone, based on the first video that we saw what had happened. So, what did the nfl imagine had happened in that elevator that would warrant only a twogame suspension . Thats the question everybodys asking. I think for me, the nfl has been way too reactionary and not proceed active enough this this. I wrote a column six weeks ago, five weeks ago about the nfl and saying it was allegedly what ray rice had did, although we really knew exactly what had happened in that elevator. Now the story is, the nfl saying they didnt have access to that tape. I think a lot of people are having a hard time buying this because if it was a criminal investigation, then the atlantic citys Prosecutors Office would have had to turn that over to the nfl and Roger Goodell. I think thats maybe the most upsetting out of all of this. A lot of really strange elements one after another here. Commissioner Roger Goodells performance in all of this has been horrible. He talks about preking the shield, which means protect the nfl brand. Well, he has damaged the shield in all of this. Tmz saying the nfl did not actually ask the casino to see the videotape. I dont understand how he doesnt make sure they acquire the tape. Dont understand how he allows this sort of lets cover up for ray rice performance that happened all around. I dont understand how he doesnt see there is an nfl with a major problem here suspect since 20 00 77 players have been involved in 85 domestic incidents and six have gotten a onegame suspension. So ray rice got double what everybody else got. What is Roger Goodells punishment in this situation for damaging the shield . You have to realize Roger Goodell is a representative of the owners of the nfl. He is not beholden to anyone else but the 3 owners of the league. Its up to them to decide if hes performing his job properly or not. I think theres outrage in the public eye about this entire incident. It shows the league that is really not just goodell but his people who are counseling him as well. Its just out of its depth on many of the social issues that, you know, the general public is being confronted with. Joe van Belcher Belcher was a kansas city player that murdered his girlfriend and himself. That should have been a wakeup call for this league to treat Domestic Violence seriously and for goodell and his colleagues and coaches of the ravens, officials on the Baltimore Ravens to sort of coddle. The first reaction is always in these cases to protect the shield and coddle player and downplay the real issue. I think what is really needed, whether Roger Goodell had anything to do with it or not, is for leagues and sports leagues to treat this issue as a serious one. As you said, the numbers are appalling. Take a listen. You know the first reason the nfl responded to my view, there are so many womens fans in this billion dollar industry. All of a sudden they said, wait a minute, you got suspended for a couple games . Thats not enough. They got a little more sensitized. Then it was longer. Then when the video was out there and saw how brutal it was, they fired him immediately. You can argue they should have done it sooner, they didnt want it, whatever the reason is, its happening. Youve got this now as an issue thats a Huge National discussion and top politicians weighing in. What is the potential here for some kind of improvement, teachable moment, something that goes well beyond the nfl itself . You know, the interesting thing is, the nfl released a new and much stricter Domestic Violence policy just 12 days ago, which outlined sixgame suspension for the first offense and a lifetime ban for the second. So, i think the nfl realized the mistake it made. What it didnt do is realize it initially. And at the exact outset. And as i said, there are social issues confronting the nfl on all sides. Theres the issue of michael sam, a gay player. County league handle that . Concussions. There was a bullying incident last year that made news. And it showed the league is scrambling to keep up with whats going on in society today. Part of this is driven by social media. Everyone watched that video and weighed in on it. Its not like it was in the 60s and 70s and 80s where things could just be news could be shoveled under the rug, you know, its a whole new landscape and the nfl and a lot of the and the other leagues are just being buffeted by it and the response has been just completely unacceptable at this point. This probably would have gone unnoticed back in the 60s and 70s. Jordan, talk to us more specifically about ray rices story. Because before this happened, there were a lot of people that were rooting for his success. I mean, he was an underdog in a lot of ways. And from what i hear, very well respected among his teammates. He was. And well liked and didnt have a past record. What does this mean for him . Theres so many things here. Hes already been dropped by nike. Madden has taken his picture off all its posters. Hes a new rochelle kid, went to rutgers, wasnt firstround pick. Everything about him is an underdog. Teammates you can hear them saying, the ray rice we know had nothing to do with Domestic Violence. They were really surprised. I think thats interesting. How long has this been, going to be . I dont think it would be a lifetime ban, if i had to guess. Id say at least three years for me. Hes 26 years old. But for him and his career, hes going to have to reevaluate everything because, youre right, he was very well liked and overnight thats gone. Teams spend a lot of Time Marketing to that home base, making sure the players who theyre going to put on the field are beloved and known in the community, sometimes theyre volunteering, sometimes doing those sorts of he was in the community, ray rice. Absolutely. What is the responsibility of a team when this sort of thing happens . The nfl acted the team was very slow to act. Shouldnt the team be thinking about, well, weve got to protect the ravens or the celtics or the knicks or whoever it might be, we have to protect our brand. Well, i put the gm of the ravens, Ozzie Newsome in similar regard to Roger Goodell. What were you doing . What were you thinking . And the owner. And the owner. When you look at it, baltimore, the ravens, are just as responsible as the nfl for handling this, if not more, because ray rice is really under their halo. To me its equally disappointing for the ravens. I know they took the right action by eventually cutting him, but where was that a while back . Theyre incentivized for not doing anything because this is a star player. And a guy they built their franchise around. Ray rice is ultimately the face of the ravens. Everything has changed. Really, its so disappointing from the leagues perspective, ray rice. Toure, we know this isnt just an nfl problem. A cdc study came out saying a third, 1 out of 3, american women will face Domestic Violence at some point in their lives. So, are other professional sports leagues thinking over their policies and how they would respond to a similar situation if they had to deal with it . Oh, i think they have to be looking at this and really reevaluating the way they treat these kinds of issues. You know, youve seen a case by case basis for the most part across all of these leagues, and the nfl, as i said, came out with a comprehensive policy. Normally these things would have fallen under player contract issues, but i think every league right now is going to be going back to the drawing boards and saying, we really need to take this seriously. Lets draw something up that makes a lot of sense and that addresses this issue across the board. Not just with their players, but with their with every official in the nfl. Everyone whos associated with the nfl. Everyones associated with sports. And early on as well. Its something that bubbles up and, as you said, sort of endemic in society. Yeah. Jordan, help break this down, the video, thats what everyone is still talking about. What do we know that the nfl actually saw, what does they request to see . Im assuming that Roger Goodell, i would hope, would come out and speak at a certain point to help us all better understand what was going on behind the scenes here. Just help lay this out for us. I think this is the comment everybody wants to know. Brian mccarthy, spokesman for the league. The video was not available not made available. Did they ask . Thats the thing. How in the world could that be possible . In this day and age, tmj, theyre saying that theres been rumors the casino was asking for up to close to 1 million for that actual inelevator video. We originally saw the video or after when hes dragging janay palmer outside of the elevator. So, i think thats the question on every single nfl fans mind. I think its very unlikely that the average semieducated nfl fan that watches football every week and knows Roger Goodell is buying this story, guys, that they didnt have access to it. Because, to me, its almost as anine he has to tmz is saying they didnt ask the casino for it and saying, we would have given it to them. I dont know what theyre thinking about. Another part of all this, janay talking today, saying that, you know, the media is damaging her to get ratings. And, you know, it is it is horrible to have this replayed again throughout america and have her relive this nightmare that she is struggling to deal with. I think it is valuable, as an instructive lesson to young men, this is what happens when you hit a woman. This is how horrible it is when you hit a woman. Theres no excuse for hitting a woman. You still get an aargument among what if shes attacking you . No, theres no excuse. What do we say to janay now that shes taken, youve taken away my husbands livelihood, damaged my lifestyle and making me relive this for your ratings. Yeah. Listen, i think shes in a very difficult position because, remember, after this, they then got married. So, thats one thing. Now, i understand that janay palmer is going through way more than we can even possibly imagine. Yeah, we cant. To relive this over and over again. You cant not have a very visceral reaction to that video, but she needs to understand, i think most people would understand that, hey, your husband, your now husband, did an absolutely heinous thing. Hes an nfl player. Theres no way this video is not going to get out. The only Silver Lining maybe she could draw from here is maybe the league could take better steps to ensure this doesnt happen again. Remember, were on the heels of ray mcdonald, by the way, for san francisco, who played last weekend, who allegedly had a Domestic Violence abuse with his wife. Were not showing this to get ratedings. Were showing this because this is an important issue in america we have to deal with. Hopefully this will lead to changes that needs to be made. Its sad shes taking blame for this. Its horrifying. Thank you, both. Thanks. Right now, congressional leaders arriving at the white house. The president set to brief them on his plan to fight isis. Up next, how concerned should we be about that threat from isis hitting here at home. And still ahead, lawmakers sounding off across town, but is this the one issue that can unite this divided congress . The cycle rolls on for this busy tuesday, september 9th. What would happen. If energy could come from anything . Or if power could go anywhere . Or if light could seek out the dark . What would happen if that happens . Anything. Some people think vegetables are boring. But with green giants delicious seasonings and blends, we just may change their minds. Ho ho ho green giant this is holly. Her long day of Outdoor Adventure starts with knee pain. And a choice. Take 6 tylenol in a day or just 2 aleve for all day relief. Onward breaking news. Senate and house leadership are arriving at white house right now where they will be briefed by the president how to contain the Terror Threat from isis. Tomorrow night the president will appear on all the broadcast networks and on msnbc in prime time to make his case to the American People. At 9 p. M. Eastern. Its a political drama. Like much of prime time tv, the plot is packed with suspense. What the president will talk about in his speech tomorrow is what the next day entails. Generally speaking at the core of that next phase is understanding and protecting the Core National security interest of the United States and protecting the American People. Chris jansing is on the north lawn for us. Tomorrow night is a gigantic speech for the president. Lets deal with the Current Issue at hand, the big meeting with leadership happening right now. Whats going on in there . Reporter i think theyre just heading in. I dont know if the meeting has gotten under way. If not, it should shortly. This is the latest in what Administration Officials describe as intensive conversations at a critical turning point in the fight against terror. And its not going to there are enormous implications for National Security and also political implications. There are divisions within each party about how far this administration should go. Were also just a couple months away from obviously the november elections. In the meantime, only have about 11 days when congress will actually be in session to do something. So the indication is that its going to be very tough to get anything passed in spite of the fact that the president has said, look, what i need is a buyin. Its very important Administration Officials will tell you, to send a unified message out there. That congress and the president are on the same page. Important to send that message as well to the American People. I think to tell you just how important the white house thinks all of this is simply the fact theyre going to be doing this speech tomorrow night in prime time and doing what they call a series of robust conversations. A dinner last night with experts. This meeting today with congressional leaders. And the speech hes giving tomorrow is still a work in progress. They say to that extent, because of the changing situation on the ground, the strategy itself will always be a work in progress. My guess is, that will be part of the tension inside this meeting because john boehner specified this morning he wanted specificity from the president about what exactly his strategy is moving forward. Interesting tough stuff. Thank you very much. Were expecting remarks from the president at the top of that meeting. Well bring those to you as soon as they happen. The president s dress tomorrow night comes hours before the 13th anniversary of the tragic 9 11 attacks. The Freedom Tower stands tall, a symbol of americas unbreakable strength and also a constant reminder of that day and the idea we can never let our guard down. The days of the terror alert level are gone in the u. S. But not in uk where officials recently declared there was a serious threat of an attack there. They believe it would come from the hands of isis. While theres no imminent threat there, 9 in 10 americans think its possible, and threequarters believe isis has the capability to pull off an attack. Does this time of year put us on edge or is there real cause for concern . Shawn hendry, former executive assistant director at fbi who has firsthand knowledge of the federal fight to protect the homeland. We keep hearing theres no currently known intel about the about isis trying to attack inside the homeland. We keep hearing how isis has not completed a major terror attack outside of there Islamic State area. Does that change, however, sir, what the American Security industry will be doing this week . Well, i think the American Security process is in full swing and has been for 13 years. Certainly the fbi, the joint Terrorism Task force, the u. S. Intelligence community, while terror incidents have not been first and foremost in peoples minds in the recent past, it absolutely has been in the Law Enforcement and intelligence community. Youve got to stay vigilant and be aware. When we look at groups like isis, who have antiamerican rhetoric, theyve certainly demonstrated their intent to harm the American People, theyve killed american journalists, the u. S. Has to be concerned. Whether theyre an actual threat directly to the u. S. Homeland is another question. And something weve got to be thinking about. One of the things i think were all somewhat fearful of is a type of lone wolf attack 37 someone whos here in the u. S. , inspired by isis ideology, even if theyre not directly affiliated with isis, trying to carry out some sort of an attack. Walk us through how the fbi, the cia, go about identifying those sorts of people who may be attracted to extremist ideology and also what the legal limits are in terms of how closely you can watch, given the fact its not illegal to look at extremist literature online. Youre absolutely right. The lone wolf threat is one of the Major Concerns of the fbi and Law Enforcement generally. We certainly have seen cases in the recent past of people who have been inspired or motivated by terrorist activities, terrorist groups. The tsarnaev brothers in boston, that san in ft. Hood, the times square bombing. People who were inspired that doesnt necessarily associate outwardly at least with a group that would raise them and put them on the radar. Those people that are working by themselves, theyre radicalizing themselves in their bedroom, by reading literature online, perhaps communicating with people overseas, they dont always come to the forefront of the Law Enforcement attention, which is why theyre a major concern, because you dont see it coming. From a Law Enforcement perspective, the fight against terrorism begins with intelligence. Its about trying to understand who might look to do harm. You do that by trying to determine who theyre communicating with. Some actions or words they might speak about, people theyre talking to, perhaps if theyre trying to collect weapons or to collect bombmaking materials and those sorts of things. The lone wolf is a very difficult person to identify because of those reasons. Theyre not doing it with a large group. From a Law Enforcement perspective, it really is about working with the community, talking to people that might be in contact with these folks, coworkers, neighbors, relatives, et cetera, who might be aware. When you get that information, thats when the fbis able to initiate some sort of investigation. Yeah. Yet were talking about this understandable domestic security set of goals and the context, of course, of the president tomorrow laying out a strategy, reports of this being potentially years of escalated attacks. I want to read something from former fbi middle east analyst. Have we considered part of this groups purpose is actually to provoke more u. S. Intervention and show themselves as a Group Standing up to the u. S. . Might we be playing into their hands . He also says, Given National counterterrorism centers statement we dont face the prospect of attacks by isis against the homeland, why are we focusing on this one group . Theyve done certain dramatic things that have gotten our attention, but what exactly are the u. S. Interests at stake here . Your thoughts. Well, i think that the president is likely to talk about degrading their capabilities, whether its to raise money to do recruitment to look to take out their leadership, which has been a strategy employed against al qaeda. I think as it relates to the homeland, i think we cant say that isis is not going to be here. Because we just discussed the fact that somebody could become radicalized or inspired within their own home and be a threat. The average american doesnt really care or shouldnt really care which trarl terrorist group inspires somebody. What they care about is who is building a bomb, whos looking to harm them, to reek mavk within their community. With that regard we have to be concerned about al qaeda as well. Al qaeda might see themselves as being marginalized and look to take certain steps to put themselves back onto the terrorist forefront and back in the minds of people. We need to be concerned about terrorism generally, not necessarily just from isis. But all of those groups looking to harm the west specifically the american public. Absolutely. Something we all think about on this week every single year, the anniversary of 9 11. Are we any safer and could this happen again with an airline . Theres a documentary airing tomorrow night on the National Geographic channel at 9 p. M. Its called 9 10 the final hours and one they talked to was terry mcdermott, about who the 9 11 hijackers were. He makes the case that 13 years later our airport might look more secure but looks can actually be deceiving. Take a listen. This happened because we werent good enough to stop it from happening. And more than that, it could happen tomorrow. I dont think theres a substantial difference in security now than there was then. I mean, its probably maybe harder to get enough hijackers into the country to do it. But, you know, im not sure of that either. After all the resources we have put towards making our airports safer, do you agree with that . We live in a world where there are violent extremists looking to harm American Society because of the way we live and the values we stand for. I dont know that we can ever prevent these types of attacks. What we have to do from Law Enforcement standpoint is to look to identify them and then deter them. That requires vigilance and investigation. It requires the hard sacrifices of the American People, american Law Enforcement and intelligence community. We are never going to get out of this space. We have to confront it. We have to to stand up. We have to he remain vigilant and the american Law Enforcement needs to recognize this is something that will require our effort for a long time coming. As long as we have global poverty and muslim extremism, well be dealing with this problem. Thank you. Next, is president obama taking a page out of the bush playbook . Hes done it before. Still ahead, washingtons prereaction to the president s prime time address tomorrow. Right now president obama is briefing congressional leaders on his plan. There is more cycle ahead. [ inhales deeply ] [ sighs ] [ inhales ] [ male announcer ] at cvs health, we took a deep breath. [ inhales, exhales ] [ male announcer ] and made the decision to quit selling cigarettes in our cvs pharmacies. Now we invite smokers to quit, too, with our comprehensive program. We just want to help everyone, everywhere, breathe a little easier. Introducing cvs health. Because health is everything. Chances are were already there. Or what you want to do, 12 brands. 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That was president obama 23 years ago announcing the start of operation desert storm, a question president obama will answer tomorrow night. But this time the enemy is isis. And he vows no u. S. Boots on the ground. The early 90s was a time of yellow ribbons, protesters in the streets shouting, no blood for oil, and scud missiles became part of our vocabulary as u. S. Airmen on the first raids to drive iraq out of kuwait said baghdad was lit up like a christmas tree. The first gulf war was a time of great Cooperation Among our allies. President obama and secretary of state james baker built a coalition of 34 countries. The u. S. Relied heavily on arab nations with the saudis footing most of the bill, not the u. S. Its an approach many say president obama and secretary kerry need to consider, with kerry leaving just this afternoon for the middle east. Nbc news senior Political Editor mark murray have more on how bush and baker orchestrated the successful mission. As you just mentioned, it was incredibly important for george h. W. Bush to end up getting a very big coalition. Youre seeing president obama and john kerry, secretary of state, trying to do the same thing. As far as like who pace for the war, saudi arabia did that in 1991. Its unclear, it does seem president obama will be asking congress for some money to be able to pay for any kind of action combating isis. Krystal, i have to say, while getting a Big International support was very important and key in something the Administration Needs to be able to follow, probably the biggest lesson from the gulf war in 1991 was you have to have a limited aim and achieve that strategy. That was all about getting hussein out of kuwait. There was no occupation as with you sea in the second gulf war, second iraq war. That shows you probably when president obama is trying to come up with his strategy on dealing with isis, having a limited strategy, something that can work and not take a whole lot of time off and has more success than the other way around. Thanks for helping us set the stage. Lets bring in ceo and editor of Foreign Policy, also wrote this weeks terrific new cover story, can obamas Foreign Policy be saved. David, i want to start with you on the question mark murray was just tackling there. Can president obama and secretary kerry put together that same sort of coalition, crucial in particular with arab allies and turkey we were able to see in the first gulf war . Well, we can put together a coalition. I think it will be different in a couple respects. First, the first time around, we put together a coalition but we did the bulk of the heavy lifting. We put the boots on the ground. We led the way. I dont think the president has the desire to do it this time. Secondly, this coalition that we are, quote, putting together now, has actually existed for some time. Whats different is that the United States wants in. For the past three years, people have been saying, get involved in syria. Get involved in trying to find a way to push back on these extremist forces. They said it again after isis took fallujah in january. Its only now that the United States is saying, okay, were ready. And thats not exactly leadership. Its not exactly putting together a coalition. One of the problems with creating the coalition were talking about is fear. We want turkey. We need turkey to come along, but they have 49 folks, diplomats in their families, being who are being held as hostages by isis. Were seeing 46 there. That is one reason they dont to want do too much to combat isis. Some other countries are dealing with similar issues in terms of they have large sunni population thes dont want to anger, or extremists they dont want to anger. How do we get past the fears of these countries and having them come along and battling isis . A lot see isis as a broader problem, which is extremism. Whether its muslim brotherhood, isis or other groups. Some of these countries, the gulf states in particular say, we have to fight extremism. Isis is a place to start because its such an extreme threat. It actually makes people coalesce around it and may begin a movement. But, you know, the examples of each country are different. You know, turkey has spent some of the past several years actually fostering some of these extremist groups, as have countries like qatar. We have to be awar some of the people we want on board have allegiances that are a little complicated as well. David, its been made very clear there will be no u. S. Boots on the ground. But in order to defeat isis, there have to be some boots on the ground, just not our boots. Whos going to do it . How does president obama convince other people to step up to the plate if we arent willing to do the very same thing . Good question and produces a rather perplexing answer. There will have to be special forces on the ground. They will be very limited. There are already some u. S. Boots on the ground. Have you to ask, whos going to do the bulk of the fighting . Some will be groups like hezbollah. Some will be groups like the iraqi army. Some will be groups like iranian army troops that are supporting the iraqi army. There are some others, but i think the interesting thing is, that at least on one level, what youre going to have here is the United States providing air support for a lot of troops that are actually backed by the iranians, an alliance no one could have foreseen a long time ago. Yeah, that is some kind of coalition. Thank you so much. Up next, how all of this is playing on the hill. Plus, ebola emergency. A fourth american patient now back in the u. S. 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For the most part, observers say apple really came through with this presentation today. On this stage 30 years ago behind me in the flint center where you see people filing out and to go into the big white box to look at some of the new products, this is the stage where steve jobs introduced the world to the macintosh computer. A nod to steve jobs today. Tim cook, ceo of apple, paused at the end, theres one more thing, like Steve Jobs Used to do, and made the announcement about the apple watch. Has a dial with a digit cal crown that functions like the click wheels on old ipods or your computer so you can navigate through on the tiny screen and scroll through things easily. Different styles, countless to personalize it. The cheapest is 349. Early next year. Heres another thing that was announced today that i think people once they see it in action are really going to take to it. For now it sounds more like an idea that maybe people dont want to try. Its the apple pay. And what it is, its not new technology but apples effort to integrate retailers, online and brick and mortar, with the digital wallet where it use radio waves from the new apple phones and watch to pay for things without using a credit card. Like paypal but mobile. The thing thats made a difference is they have a bunch of retailers on board at the beginning, so when people start to see it in the beginning, theyll feel comfortable and want to try it. Thats the key to getting something used. Its not new technology but it can be revolutionary and evolutionary, is what they like to call it. Were always a bit skeptical at first but sounds cool. But it is expensive. Yeah. Absolutely. Back to breaking news in the beltway. Were still watching the white house very closely for first comments from that big meeting with congressional leaders, where the president is articulating his plan to attack isis militants. With the beheading of two americans in recent weeks, the case for action has become more urgent. But, unfortunately, as with most things in this current political climate, its just not that easy. For more on what the president will say and should say, we are joined by political strategist Doug Thornell who used to run press for Democratic Congressional campaign committee. Welcome. How are you . Great. Fox has a piece out today laying out the speech that the president would give tomorrow if he could be totally brutally honest. Some of the highlights go like this. Let me be clear, this plan wont destroy isis now or possibly ever. Theres no Silver Bullet for destroying groups like isis, but were going to drop a lot of bombs on iraq and syria and hope our allies there dont screw everything up. Probably a message we will not be hearing from the president tomorrow up. Know a thing tore two about advising politicians. What does the president need to say tomorrow to get the support that he needs, not just from congress, but from the American People . Well, first of all, i think hell lay out the threat that isis poses to the to this country, to our allies. I think hes also going to remind the American People that what were heading into, that this countrys very good at taking the fight to bad guys. And that theyve already begun, this administration has already begun, to lay the foundation for a strong offensive. Over 100 air strikes have been made in iraq against isis. Were building that coalition. 40 countries are on board. You have the new Iraqi Government and a new prime minister. And then i think hes going to have to lay out the strategy, what the American People can expect over the next couple months. Most importantly, what is the goal . Why are we getting into this. The good thing what the white house has going for them is Public Opinion has shifted in their favor in terms of support to increase air strikes, both in iraq and also possibly syria, to take the fight to isis. I think people have seen the enemy. Theyve seen how evil these folks are, especially after the horrible beheadings much two americans. So, they have that support from the public. What hes really trying to do is build support for his strategy that hes going to lay out tomorrow. Yeah, doug, you mentioned that. Well put those numbers up on the screen. It started at 45 supporting air strikes just a few months ago and that jumped up to 54 . Now new numbers up to 71 . To your point, obviously several factors there. But is a big factor in that huge shift the president already explaining the beginnings of some kind of plan here, and obviously conducting some of these air strikes . Wouldnt that seem like part of the leadership people have been calling for here . Well, i think people forget that back in early august the president gave a prime time speech announcing air strikes in iraq. Hes done a press conference earlier this month. And so its not as if theyve been silent on the issue. And, you know, secretary kerrys in the middle east as we speak. Theyve been doing a lot of robust Global Coalition building. And, you know, there have been close to 100 air strikes already. So, the administration has been taking the fight to isis. I do think, though, what has changed Public Opinion in large part were the horrible murders of those two americans that were so that kind of came into peoples living rooms. You know, unlike the chemical weapons that assad used against his own people. These were americans that folks can relate to. You know, the sons of folks that you know, everyone can kind of connect with. I think that really had an impact on how the shift of Public Opinion has occurred rapidly over the last few weeks. A big speech tomorrow night. 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