We start with jim miklaszewski. They were trying to cross in canada. Why . These three afghan soldier, two captains and a major, did not walk away from this Training Unit on saturday night. They were actually on a tour at a Shopping Mall when they disappeared t disappeared. They didnt do it on an impulse. Apparently they had a plan and that plan was to once they got here for this Training Mission which began almost a week ago now, their apparent plan was to leave the mission and make it a way make their way across new york, across the porter are into cap in a take where its known that can that today has a pretty lenient asylum policy and has become a haven for many muslims. From the getgo, military and police never considered these individuals to be a threat because they had been well vetted and they were not armed. The exercise that they were involved in with the National Guard was not an actual deployment and actual kinetic exercise, it was a table top exercise. So they never had any weapons and we are not armed when they slipped away from their military escorts on saturday night. Jinl pim jim miklaszewski, t so much. Lets get you to the white house and chris jansing. The president spoke about the security brief. Yeah, he expressed that the secret service does a great job. But what were learning out of federal court is very concerning on obviously. Omar gone s Omar Gonzalez who jumped the fence on friday was called by a federal prosecutor a danger to the president and we are just learning that he was known to officials here. On august 21 this year, he was stopped while walking along the south fence of the white house and according to process dupros thatted a hatchet inside his rear waistband. He was not arrested. He was allowed to go to his car where he agreed to let Police Search it but they found dogs, camping gear, nothing else. And he wasnt arrested. Lets fast forward to this month. Snksly walked through the unlocked front door of the white house. Now wire learning that he allowed police once again to search his car, they found 800 rounds of ammunition both in boxes and magazines, two hatchets and machete. And they found that he was carrying a knife. Already some procedures and protocols along the white house have been changed. Theyre upping patrols, locking the front door. There is and ongoing internal investigation. And while the president has stated that he has confidence in the secret service, we do know from josh earnest that he was concerned and briefed multiple times at camp david. That he was updated on the investigation multiple times through the weekend. And this new information just coming out of federal court. The suspect will be held until october 1st where there will be another Court Appearance but obviously this is getting worse for the secret service because of what was found inside his car. Always a good idea to lock the front door. Thank you very much. We turn back now to the fight against isis where thousan thousands of refugees are fleeing in to turkey. Trying to escape the violence and culture of hatred that isis is trying to enforce. Of course the battle to escape extremism is not exclusive to syria or the middle east. Zach abraham, author of the terror son, an amazing son. His father assassinated 24 years ago, was convicted of planning the World Trade Center attack respect the first one. Zach says hes proof that even people raised on hate can choose peace and reject violence. It doesnt have to be like father like son. His very inspiring tent talk on all of this has nearly 1. 3 million views. Thank you so much for being here. You grew up in a home with a appear who was teaching you about hate and yet you somehow learned to reject that. Talk about you how you made that journey from wanting to be like your boy and learning to go toward peace. Well, really it was about living outside of the ideological bubble that i had been raised in. When youre trying to indoctrd friday nature them, you have to isolate them and convince them that everyone out side the bubble is a threat. Nature them, isolate them and convince them that everyone out side the bubble is a threat. When i was exposed to the world, it made it that much easier to reject what i had been taught as a child. Help this us understand the mentality inside the bubble. We hear you cant just attack isis militarily. So what is it about hate and extremism and violence that is actually appealing to some people . Well, beyond military strategy, isis is a symptom of the problem. Its more difficult for extremist gruoups to recruit people more likely to join a group like isis for example. Zach, i found your talk incredibly moving and i recommend everyone watching to watch your talk. Its one thing to chart a different chart from your dad, but another thing to speak out openly about what your dad did and how you charted a different path. Its also a very risky thing to talk about openly given everything that is going on in the world today. Risky for you you and your family. Why did you decide to speak openly about it . Well, i became involved in the Antiwar Movement before i ever decided to start speaking publicly and i just saw instances where i thought if perhaps people who are standing next to me protesting or the counter protesters across the street, that if they knew maybe where i came from and you how i had changed my life, that it would give them some context because the vast majority of muslims in the world are not exposed to this kind of extremism. Its a very unique experience. And i hope to show people that if someone like me who is exposed to this ideology and can come out of it promoting acceptance, what does that say. One of the things we know well about terrorism is that it seeks to do through information and theater what it cannot chief through military objectives. So you can kill what is relatively a small number of peoplechief through military objectives. So you can kill what is relatively a small number of people but terrorize an entire society. When you look at what were in right now and you think beyond the american reaction to what weve seen isis do, but the reaction say since you talk about rejecting some of this, what do you think about children say in syria or iraq right now who are watching all of this happen and obviously feeling like they have to choose between some pretty dark options . Well, thats the thing. Its a lack of options. I think its been pretty obvious since we invade iraq and afghanistan hat the use of violence to try to you you cant bomb people into democracy. They have to go into it willingly. And not every problem can be fixed with a hammer. We need to try to find a better solution. I dont think anyone would say that the environment there has been any better because weve spent the last 13 years there. We just showed some footage of that video. We see all the time isis putting forth propaganda to try to recruit folks from all over the west to join their mission. And to try to combat that, the state department now has a think again campaign to show the harsh realities that they would actually face if they ended up becoming a terrorist. What do you make of all that and is that the right way to combat this . Well, for one, i think because of the age that we live in, its easy for us to have access to propaganda, whether we can be swayed by it or not. Then on twitter can see what sort of propaganda isis is trying to spread. To me its kind of a lack of sense of proportion because were talking about a few hundred people out of the millions of muslims that live in the United States and tens of millions more muslims that live in europe. I think that its getting much more attention than it deserves. Isaiah is using western voices to narrate these horrible videos for the specific purpose of trying to gain attention in the u. S. Zach, your story sis incredible. Please check out the book and tent talk. Thank you so much. Coming up, digging in to the special ops option to take out isis. What our militarys most elite can and cannot do. And new allegations in the ray rice investigation. And plus who Roger Goodell is really playing to. Nature valley crunchy granola bars give you energy from 1 3 of your daily whole grains, so 1 3 of this commercial is dedicated to what you could do with all that energy. Energy for getting dizzy at the beach. People who know me, to this day they say,tix. 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Baltimore ravens top brass will face the cameras again at the top of the hour. Ray rice is expected to appeal his indefinite suspension from the nfl that was a result of the tmz sports video. Apparently showing him sucker punching his then fee andiance. And there was a bench clearing brawl on sunday. Coming just two days after commission Roger Goodell vowed to overall rules on player conduct. More cameras were there on sunday when goodell took in the giants game against the texans. And he promises to tackle the way his players behave. Andrew plant brant is a sports business analyst. Thank you so much for being with us. Its great a story. A time in the nfl weve never had. Absolutely right. And we played the press confidence last friday and there have been a lot of different opinions. But the reality is all he really had to do was keep the support of the 32 team owners. We can sit here and say whatever we want, but as long as he has their support, nothing else really matters. Its interesting. Because it obvious will you didnt play well to the public and ive said that i thought we should see more human side, some vulnerability, some frailty. In addition to saying he was sorry, it was long on wlae got wrong but very light on what he could get right in terms of details going forward. We have vague committees being set up, we start about task forces, hiring, things like that but nothing specific. But as you you mentioned, he reports to the 32 owners. When people think of the nfl, they dont think of this mono lit in new york. Its really 32 club it is s to e reports. Everybody has been stepping up to the mike, so many owner respect saying we support roger 100 . That tells me he has the support he needs. I think its mythical to think he might step down. He has tremendous support as you said from the people he needs. The problem with the press conference was it seemed like he was speaking to them, more of a corporate fast sad. But ultimately, that is would is judging him. Great to have you on the show. We all know power an hobhors a vacuum, so it seem he will remain commissioner, but lose some of his power. So trying to think about who would be able to gain some you power if roger loses some. What is it perhaps the slipping of goodell mean for demaury smith . I noticed a sea change in the way discipline was meted out. Goodell was the new sheriff in town. He wouldnt wait for the legal system. He was going to impose swift and rapid and sure fire it is plain a discipline. Now being excoriated for race rice discipline that was too short. Roger goodell is abdicating the you power that he so desperately wanted. Who gets the power besides that . We have an opportunity here for the union. Hair relationship has not been good. Here is an opening for them. But i think there will be other experts, other people brought into this. I would think this conduct committee has he referenced vaguely will have some power and should have some power. And in my estimation, it should be truly independent without ties to the nfl or nflpa, bring in people who work with violence, bring in people skilled at this and really have a rigorous program. And goodell has said that his mishl punishment of ray rice, that he got it wrong. But one of the excuses that he used essentially for initially levying that pretty soft punishment was that rices account of what happened in the elevator differed from the video and he didnt see the video according to him. Lets take a listen. We got new information from the first time i met with him to my initial discipline. Which i acknowledged was not sufficient. That it was clear there was an act of domestic violence. But it was inconsistent with the way he described what happened. As you know, espn was out with some pretty interesting reporting over the weekend saying essentially, no, ray rice told him in his meeting with goodell exactly what happened in the elevator. Goodell should not have been surprised. And youre saying that goodell at least is safe for now. And as long as he has the support of the team owners, he will be safe. But also the coverup can be worse than the initial crime. Is it possible there is more information that comes out here about what and when t. And how goodell knew . I think there is more to come out. Robert mueller is involved and hes looking through everything. The union is appealing his indefinite suspension. And in 40 minutes, the owner of the ravens will address the media. Ive said from the beginning compared to the public scorn, ravens have skated. We dont know how or are what they knew, but they supported ray rice. They had the press conference with the banner behind them where they tweeted out things leak gentlem like gentleman may oig pojanay role. I have been around the league a long time. We have to see who knew what and when us a whand what was the fa. Was there business relationships, human Political Support into this situation. Why did either the ravens or Roger Goodell or one or both are or neither risk their career over ray rice. Thats what we want to know. Goodell didnt say that much in the friday press conference, but he did say several things that arent true. He referred to the idea that he couldnt characterize what ray rice said because of and ongoing investigation. Thats not true. You can still put you out consistent factual information. He also said because one of the criminal indictments was on appeal, he couldnt act on it. Thats not true under the bylaws. Anyone who works in a normal job knows you can deal with things particularly when you get convicted. So there were just big flaring holes there. I want to put up the new york tab employeds reaction here which basically thats it. They came to the conclusion that 55 on the issue of honesty dont believe goodell has been honest. At what point do all these problems add up . They dont want to support someone who looks line hes brazenly dissembling before the public. There is the credibility issue, the public trust, intelliinte intelling frgritty issue. The trust of the public is in play here. He has a lot of lawyers around him and to me that press conference was very lawyerwritten. It was guarded, it was koornt. There were planned and unrevealing answers. Tmz said i got the video in a phone call, why couldnt you get it. Vague references from goodell that they wouldnt quote unquote stoop to levels to get video that they did. But ive been around league investigations. They bring the might of the nfl, league security, team security, law enforcement, they go hard to get this kind of information. We will have to find out and i expect steve biscotti to be guardeded, as well. But this is why you have the investigation. Hopefully stormer director mueller is going to be comprehensive, look at every text, every email, and we get to the bottom of it and that will be public. Sometimes the coverup can be far worse than the crime itself. Thank you very much for being with us. Still ahead, why the problems were seeing in the nfl are just the tip of the iceberg. And next a big week here in new york. World leaders meet at the u. N. To tackle isis and Climate Change. birds chirping softly in background. loud engine sounds what hows it going . Heard you need a ride to school. I know just the thing to help you get going. Power up with new cheerios protein. I have a cold. I took nyquil but im still stuffed up. Nyquil cold and flu liquid gels dont unstuff your nose. 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