Time and here we hear that there are a lot of counterfeit products on the marketplaces. Yes, here, i would operate with a word. Its just a fake when were moving down this long road of 400 million e product cards. We hope that e body certification at the time of certification will be precisely verified. Eh, is it that production and dont they make a fake there . Because when he checks the production before starting to issue a certificate, he must request the relevant papers and make a decision. And its really the designers there, that is, the countries that toy is from that side, yes or those rims, its from that side or in russia it doesnt matter. That is what they check. This is the sign of a fake. Thats why we here are one of the parts of this process, including, uh, 400 million cards yes, yes, only goods in the country are being sold by some problems and require some adjustments in terms of working with data. Yes, we are dealing with systems. Every day, in general , from 300 to 350 certificates appear in the country every day. This is a large number, even if compared with the countries of kyrgyzstan, armenia , kazakhstan, belarus, then we have the largest number of certificates, these are the protocols that i told about when they tear the bear there. This is then all fixed in the protocol of such protocols per day 10,000 appear in the system. And if we add verification of video fixing, ah, video fixing is carried out, when we lend to those who are involved in this, if we are now on the verge of making it is this decision that we are already making trial ones. Uh, measurements of what kind of roller will turn out. When your machine wears something for several days, if such a machine rubs the fabric, for example, it washes correctly. Thats how long this place will take. This issue is being studied right now. A so in the system. Eh, here. Eh, now there are about 50,000 documents a day, and this needs to be dealt with constantly by the system. It is necessary to develop , build up and ensure continuity. It is necessary to make digital transparency of all certification testing processes, and even accreditation of these persons, so that other authorities can see it on the marketplace. We saw the same fcs, uh, citizens could use it. Here, this is very important. Thank you very much for the conversation. Oh thank you. Hello russia decades of science and Technology Television company ntv state Corporation Rosatom presents a Science Program and a program on how science will change our lives in the next 10 years. Its already starting. That s it, and im ekaterina shugaeva, and in 10 years Artificial Intelligence will gain free will. Real intelligence is already beginning to acquire free will, but i invited optimists who believe that in 10 years Artificial Intelligence will really gain free will. This is taras barkhatov philosopher, good evening and units larionov an expert in the field of neuromorphic computing. Hello, i have a tradition for those skeptics konstantin shurinov an expert in Information Security and Natalia Galkina an expert in neurotechnology. Good evening at the end of the program our guests and optimists will make a prediction. What is the probability in 10 years . Artificial intelligence will really gain free will about the history of Artificial Intelligence , our expert professor kapustin will tell Artificial Intelligence is a device that can imitate Human Behavior and at the same time learn using existing data, the actual term Artificial Intelligence, mathematician invented. Alan turing. By the way, the same one that cracked the enigma encryption system, he first spoke about the possibility of the existence of machines capable of learning from their own experience. Artificial intelligence reprimands its birth since 1958, when a device imitating human Neural Networks appeared, this technology was called the embryo of a computer that should be able to speak , see, write, and, most importantly, reproduce itself and be aware of its existence. That is , from the very beginning, the computer was required functions unique to humans. And while the words Artificial Intelligence. They came up with later machines made of iron and silicon immediately began to attribute inhuman properties. Denis aleksandrovich what do you think, what is free will, in general, in the last century , heisenberg proposed the socalled uncertainty principle, which showed that the nature of the world. In fact, probabilistic and in the world there is randomness and this, in fact. This is one of the important postulates of Quantum Mechanics, which has been repeatedly experimentally verified, as well as. Here it turns out that the world is not deterministic. And this is precisely the uncertainty in the world. She, in principle, and allows you to put the question. And free will. If the world were determined, then such a question would be meaningless. Well , now im answering the question directly. What is free will is rather conscious decision making. So what is conscious . Previously , people answered this question very simply; they identified consciousness with the soul ; such a metaphysical object, the soul, the subjectivity of consciousness, was introduced, which, among other things, also possessed will ah, well, is this model interesting . It has great practical value and in everyday life it is still, in principle, applicable. And how can one answer the question, what is free will, for example, from the point of view of biology, but the answer would probably look Something Like this first there was physics, then life appeared and for billions of years of life existence. In principle, there was no free will, and then it suddenly appeared, and this is a certain, but a phenomenon associated with evolution with the complication of behavior. And so, well, we all know that behavior is of two kinds. Well, the first thing i call him is not meaningful. This is when the pupil narrows on the source of light and other behavior is meaningful. And uh, when u the subject who makes the decision has a model of the world in this model of the world, huh . There is the ability to make predictions, uh, and uh, predicting possible outcomes, and we can choose the right one. Thats what, in fact, meaningful behavior from the point of view of biology, you can call free will. However, this definition has no practical value. And so, basically, no one says, but the real practical value in this concept is invested by philosophers. Eh, when they understand under free will the ideas of personal responsibility, and most importantly, not that there are some rules according to which some decisions are made. And how can we explain these rules to ourselves and others in society, that is, in fact, answering the question. Why did you do that . We form the basis for such a concept as responsibility, it underlies the right, generally speaking, the structure of society is such when i i ask why you ate all the remaining borsch when you speak in terms of determinism, its not me, its the stomach that wanted it. Its all nonsense, in fact you knew who would be responsible for this. You knew that there would be no borscht left, in general, and it was your freedom, it was selfexpression, that is, freedom, philosophers are to blame for everything. Yes, i agree, in general, you can not blame the intestines. Here, free will exists and people eat borsch precisely because of their free will. A natalya valentina and what did a person learn earlier learned to do earlier think or feel. Now, if we say that yes, there is Artificial Intelligence, there is still a soul with free will well, firstly, i want to fill in about free will, and free will today, in our understanding, is inherent only in living beings , even fish and dogs. And i think yes, even fish and dogs, because they are living beings, when we say Artificial Intelligence, then in general apply the concept of free will to Artificial Intelligence today. Its extremely difficult because anyway, these are algorithms that were written by developers. So, of course, feelings come first. Cant Artificial Intelligence feel . Well, you know, how would it be such a conversation, today is already enough, and not complicated, but nevertheless, which all the time there is an emotional revolution. Thats what arose earlier yes, how would a person feel or think before, right . Do you understand . No, well, at first i felt, and then there, and then there i began to think sometime in antiquity. Well lets look now at behavioral economics, tells us that by 90 , we make a decision not rationally and only 10 rationally why because the emotional revolution has absolutely turned the paradigm upside down, and buying to behavior, well, we are talking about the economy, so purchasing behavior, if previously considered in neosmithrian economics, what is man first . He thinks whether ivan weighs all his or not, then he acts and only after that he experiences pleasure on the couch or not, then today in the information flow in which we are with you we live at first spontaneously acting , maybe i was shown an advertisement 10 times, then this sofa, like, like spontaneously bought, maybe , or maybe they just didnt show you a sofa. You saw a sofa that you have never seen and said i want to emotionally absolutely always, it always happens. Yes, i dreamed you went to buy a car there. He saw a completely different one, and there were still huge discounts on it, some kind of red discount. Is this a spontaneous decision . They took me out. No, nothing like you at this moment your brain and your feelings are your desires. In fact, they were completely irrational. Well, that is. Here , maybe it was a little more expensive than your capabilities, but your desire is your emotional reaction. It feels like the whole world. Uh, hmm regulates my emotional desires part by word manipulated by extreme emotionality. And look, well, of course, they dont manipulate, but still, reasonable people, therefore they must think and must be able to stop themselves. 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Already today, Artificial Intelligence so far exceeds our abilities in most areas. Well, what makes you see Artificial Intelligence as the main enemy. Should we develop nonhuman minds that may eventually surpass us and outnumbered and outwitted and generally make us tender and replace us whether we should risk losing control of our civilization precisely these questions. Or rather, the answers to them make the developers of Artificial Intelligence think about the limitations associated with the free will of their wards. Just imagine you are driving a car controlled by Artificial Intelligence. And suddenly, for no reason at all, she decides to drive through a red light, or even stop to stop in the middle of the road, and your home robot vacuum cleaner refuses to do cleaning because hes just in a bad mood. Well, ill finish the jokes of techies, agnostics have created an artificial superflyer, endowed with free will. They ask a question. And if god and Artificial Intelligence answers them now there are idiots. Here we have such a cheerful optimistic professor. Yes, taras aleksandrovich let s try to finally deal with free will. What sciences are being studied today, in general, are there any, i think we can recommend for the nobel prize. If we finally figure it out, right . Yes yes then there is an end here, of course, the main problem is what to put in these two words . Yes, we , in general, not about freedom, not about will, do not fully understand, not about that other place, of course, that by intellect, yes, we have a similar story there too. In general, some say so, some confusion in this matter, but nevertheless, and by and large, when we talk about freedom, we mean together or separately. A three aa lines of discussion. Yes the first is what colleagues have already mentioned, and the random factor, and the second line is the factor, subjective awareness. Yes, but the ability to be aware of ones own actions, including perceiving oneself as partially or fully responsible. Yes. That is, as the source of these actions. Here are respectively the second line of discussion and the third line. Maybe the most interesting. Well, the most speculative is actually the ability to produce new creativity. Yes, and accordingly, a to one degree or another. These three factors, together or separately, make up the objects of interest. On in fact, almost all sciences to a slightly lesser extent, of course. A little more public, but one way or another, the problems of free will pop up in physics and e, they remembered heisenberg yes , they remembered the creators of the copenhagen interpretation of Quantum Mechanics and , accordingly, all ideas related to the underdetermination of the world at the micro level, but they did not remember Albert Einstein who stubbornly said, that you dont know how to count this question, and the problems are not in the structure of the world, but in the incompleteness of the existing theory, that is einstein was just an absolute determinist. Dai einstein insisted that gods own did not play in the field. Yes. Yes, yes, he cant, the team answered that, when will you finally stop telling god what to do with him that is not allowed. Not this particular one, not actually that big one, in context, inside of which uncertainty is the unresolvedness that exists, we turn to the question of what more or less reliable detectors we have in order to detect free will, by and large, everything depends on that we do not have the opportunity to go back in time, that is, in order to make sure that the action could be performed, otherwise it would be a creative action. Be it a physical event and so on. We need to go back and try to do it differently. Uh huh because. This is an impossible task, then by and large , talk about the presence or absence of free will in a radical formulation turns out to be purely speculative, nothing can be proved here, but to the social sciences. For example, or response, yes, but it is critically necessary free will, as a factor of responsibility of the individual for his own actions at the moment when we say, we suspect that a persons actions