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But how do you see it . Is this a confirmation rejection . A new course because were all told its theres a lot at stake where they always say that go ahead. Jennifer. Exactly. I actually think its both. I think its both a rejection of the current administration. The current uh regina current policies. Its a rejection and a new wave of voters. I mean, theyre even seen in these trends. A lot of people that might have voted democrat before are now wanting to vote republican the numbers, and thats why some of the numbers are looking higher than they thought. I think its those because the majority of the voters know that theres something going on and they started to see this kind of hockey list as you will. The populace kind of rising up more freedoms more, more liberties, better gas prices, better food prices. All of those were happening under donald trump, who we were told was evil. And so youre seeing this rejection of the mainstream narratives and the narratives that are coming out of our white house and people are seen that even those that were not involved or in politics will go to the polls because of their wallet. Ok, is donald trump out the bow and are, is a joe biden, are both on the bow and how do you look at it . Go ahead. Well, i think donald trump is definitely on the ballot. I think the majority of the conservatives in america are still moved towards the america 1st party, which is the donald from a party. They still look up to some of the things he was speaking at. Freedom of speech, freedom of the press. And i think a lot of those voters, just like donald trump, whos kind of come to his consensus that we need to end the war and ukraine. I think a lot of their voters are moving their way to as well. Joe biden. I dont know who really he appeals to at all, play storm shock that he got 81000000 votes. Dont abide in Bumper Sticker or a t shirt out there and stuff. But i think the correlation that the democrats are hoping, and thats why they have obama back out there, is that theyll kind of relate that by didnt obama magic that that was once captured and hope really didnt produce anything except a victory. And i think thats what the democrats are hoping for again. Yeah. Well, you cant transfer career. Ok. I mean, i didnt like obama. I didnt like his policies, but he was charismatic. I mean, you have to give credit where credit is due here. Dennis, can you explain so i mean, because you, youve been around a lot in politics. Ive never seen a sitting president so vicious towards half the electorate. I mean, i find it really remarkable. You have that kind of like mussolini speech a few months ago. And then in washington, i think in the last new cycle, its very vicious against against the electorate. I mean, if you dont punch down and you dont insult the electra, but thats exactly what hes doing. Why . Well, let me say peter, that i have no job by 50 years and he says decent pan, what his handlers are, are hard nose partisans. And i think theyre encouraging him to take a tax. That is unwise and that will credit considerable amount of low back. I believe its in the interest of the people to have have our president reach out and always try to reconcile the opposite country. And you know, thats not happening. The polarization is increasing. So i, you know, i dont think that prisoner bidens on natural approach. But he sure is taking it, and i would say that in a way there are some symmetry between what, whats happening domestically and hardliners being taken as with the foreign policies of the United States as well. Okay, well you know jennifer in donald trump was very dismissive. I mean, you know and denies that. Ok, almost everyone has an opinion on the former president , but there was no slogan like, lets go brendan, i mean, they didnt have that for trump, but they do have that for biden. What does that tell you . I mean that the population has rejected this sort of rhetoric. I mean, its easy to say to donald trump was, was device in some sense, but thats only because the media told us to believe that yes, i mean, he was upset, but the Republican Party has historically been the party that rolls over back. And lets attacks happen, were not only censorship losing their jobs, losing friends, being called actual terrorists on, you know, being demonized, being weaponized for political reasons, losing, again, losing gainful employment. And so i think these kinds of things are what are, what essentially divide. I mean, if, if, if its true in any way that donald trump started some sort of chasm within this, joe biden has exploded, that it made it worse. And i do agree that i dont think joe biden is running this dog and pony show. Nobody thinks that because of the people that hes answering to, i mean, every day americans, you know, i live here and then the west, people know that theres something thats not right here. Theres something that doesnt add up. Theres a section, theres a lot of the Democratic Party as not come out is a party of, of, you know, social justice. They come out of a party that things on your door and violently throws it in your face until that happens. And thats what the voters are going with. I think thats the ultimate rejection of whats been going on. Why the American People are going to flock so heavily to these polls . Yeah, a craig, one of the things you know, watching, you know, i have to watch. I miss and be see and seen and because its part of my job i its hardship pay, but i still do it. Um, january 6th. And abortion is that this is a really good turn. The trick here . No, its not. And, and im with you peter being that we deconstruct the media on a regular basis. Its hard sometimes to watch this media. And there are just a completely controlled entity right now, pure propaganda. We have team sports across the board from this to party, allusion. The funny thing is that with the mainstream media, both emerson, cnn fox, is that theyre trying their hardest to avoid 3rd parties. And we see some 3rd parties actually getting on the stage. So i still think their media is consistent with their propaganda and their message, and thats to stay into the, to party to awfully. But hopefully we can get some breakthroughs with this independent independent media out there. Pushing for these 3rd parties, including the Libertarian Party thats getting on the stage here, and there are, it will talk about that. Then you see, i mean this to operate that and i agree with craig, i mean i do want to dignify with the Republican Party at all 0. Im a conservative. Ok, thats how i and, and i do balls and strikes if i like a policy if i dont like a policy. Ok. And so, and i think more and more people are politically homeless. But when you look at the media, my god, it is really, it is so aggressive its, its either your with this or against this and i think thats very unhealthy. Go ahead dennis. Well, the larger problem is polarized thinking that takes place and in any culture, what happens in a country like america, where theres generally a Free Exchange of ideas or we hope there will be the polarity, causes people to start to differentiate, to discriminate as far as what their position as worse is what theyre hearing on television. You know, where i think were in a confused time and time of chaos. And one of their is even order within chaos. That k i said happening right now is driving people into, into this polarity. And i think its, its very dangerous. It doesnt serve our country. And because i have found and running for president twice, there is an underlying unity in america just to reach for. And if you dont reach for and you just say youre going to win by the dividing and conquering, i dont know, i dont or i dont appreciate no participate in that approach. Yeah. You know, jennifer, i mean, going back to bidens rhetoric and conservatives of basically terrorists putting them on the level of ill kind a that will only make conservative people go out and vote more because youre insulting them. Ok, youre, youre really insulting them and youre telling you youre a victim of wrong. Youre wrong. Think okay, i can. And joe biden, the energizes the conservative base jennifer, he does, you know, and i appreciate whats been said here because i think there is an underlying air of unity for many people in america. I, i know that and again, im not, you know, i havent been a poster for ever or any time. I, so i dont follow these trends historically. But one thing that i m seen right now is that, yes, we know that right now its a republican versus democrat election coming up. But i think the reason that the republic numbers are winning is not because people want to join and get involved. The g o p, or the republicans or whatever. And we see that theres some people switching parties because that, but its because we need change in office and we need that unity and were desperately craving for this election is becoming about ideals. Its not just conservatives on that, are angry about the rhetoric angry about being called terrorist. I mean, you can say all day long, but donald trump was maybe divisive in some ways, but he never jailed the media. He never let a raid on the media or on his political opponents. He was never an office when any of this happened. He certainly never called most of the Democratic Party or most democratic voters, a, a terrorist organization or domestic terrorist. He never likened to this. 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You think of preacher go double played, you have j go so good on that. Ah, welcome back. Across like were all Things Considered on Peter Labelle to remind you were discussing the upcoming american mid term elections with okay, its go back to i guess in las vegas, craig, i mean, if you watch fox news out there, theyre chilling the champagne bottles. Thats pretty sure you what will you watch prime time there. But, you know, i think that we have to go into the minutia here because look at the new republican candidates people weve never come across before doing very well in the polls against the incumbents that have been around for forever. Okay, kick. Kerry lake. I ways one that comes to mind, i mean what a fire brand, im wow. Okay, theres a new new breed of a rep, look and candidates here. And Mitch Mcconnell is does not like these people here. So as theyre chilling the bottles at fox, the civil war and the Republican Party is only just begun. Go head, greg . Yeah. The, they dont, these are Establishment Republicans dont like these grass roots. People at all. Kevin mccarthy, and the way hes treated some of those are grassroots people like laura luma and all those other america, 1st candidates just wisc aside. But, you know, i think the, the underline, the issue here is the fact that a lot of people still remember why they became a democrat and the 1st place. And this is just another c saw pendulum swing, and they dont want to get fooled again. They remember the help america vote act and the patriot act in the iraq war all and the republican president. So, i mean, at the end of the day, i still think people going to be seeking some other options. I do agree with my other guest here. This is some scary times, it doesnt seem like anybody wants to unite, no, let alone joe biden, with that mussolini speech we talked about. It seems to be more divisive, but i guess thats the game thats going out there right now. So i would 2 thirds of the voters in america have 0 to a little confidence in these elections. I think its going to produce a little bit different results than just simply republican and democrat and democrat, the selection time. Yeah. Dennis, when, when makes it really a scary time, is that you have this lessening faith in the democratic process and the electoral process. I mean with, with the, the left wing. Now hes talking about election denial and all of this. I mean, what the, the biggest mistake coming out of 2020 is to where it was to just shove aside the concerns that some people had, you know, was there fraud . Well, it was never really investigated. Okay. Maybe everything was hunky dory. Maybe it wasnt. But i mean, just brushing that aside is really insulting to a lot of people that did maybe had legitimate concerns. Im not going to say they were legitimate or illegitimate, but just brushing aside worries a lot of people about the it, particularly if theres so much mailing going going on. What are your thoughts on that . Cuz youve been through a lot of campaigns. Go ahead dennis. I have been through more campaigns and most people would believe, but ill tell you this is it is not unusual to see the kind of games that are played in american elections at all levels. And, and voters have a right to be concerned that their votes are counted at the count that, that there is no other parents in the election process. But it is a fact of life here in america that such parents does happen. Whether its the benefit of the democrats or, or the republicans and in the election, integrity ought to be an issue. Now, you know, they, the paradox in america is when you dont like someone, and they happen to get elected. How do you close ranks behind whoever the president is . And its just something that al gore showed the nation the direction in 2000 when he lost it in the Supreme Court. And, and George W Bush became president. Gore could have raged, you know, unholy, and created a situation where theres been a huge table is ation in the government. But he chose to take a different path and that path of trying to seek for formation. And unity is a very important thing in america. So whether a democratic, selected or republican are selected or to future some other parties, we have to realize that while we make a stand for Election Integrity and we have to do that, well, the elections in the process of also being counted when, when somebody is declared the winner, whether we like it or not, we have to find a way to, to move forward as a nation. Were having trouble with that right now. Yeah. And jennifer, well, another thing that were having trouble with, and i look at both sides of the equation of this, its very dangerous and your politics gets down to a purity test. Ok. And i think very dangerous because it doesnt allow nuances and slight differences of opinion and it cuts down on a big tent. Okay. Theres parity tests that i see so much in the media really terrifies me because no one is pure. Okay, jennifer, go ahead. Well, exactly, and thats the worst part, i mean, the complete infringement. Im hon. Freedom of speech, but of conscience of thought of diversion of opinions. I mean, thats what i think the people are seeing. The truth is these mid term elections really are a, there are cause there are call to unleash, to unleash the voters against the establishment. And thats in both parties. Yep. Yes. The vast majority of anti establishment and anti establishment in america 1st candidates are running as republicans. Thats the way our system works right now, especially throughout the different states. So the vast majority of these anti establishment america, 1st candidates are republican. Theyre running as republicans. Thats why theres going to be a republican wave, but this is a, this is a show of that the fact that the American People are done with the establishment when it comes to Election Integrity, there are many people i know that are, are concerned about that voters are concerned even voters that were americans that were afraid to come out with this with their opinions about the 2020 election are now seen that way. This doesnt make sense. Were looking at numbers. How could this happen . Joe biden got bought over 10000000 more votes than barack obama, his crime and his peak. I mean, that doesnt make much sense as, as to whats going on. And i think its unfair to compare d, al gore, gore and bush situation to what happened in 2020 because in bush v gore. I mean were talking about the constitutional interpretation of one state law. Wherein the where, where, and, you know, certification was still be in question and the Supreme Court of the United States ruled on that. So went through the legal process. Here you had people watching a very, very normal flow of an election in their states in several states. And then at 3 am, suddenly 845150000 balance are dropped, and 99 percent of which are for joe biden. People had questions. I think those questions are legitimate and should be asked, especially since for 4 years half america gets shouting and screaming that Hillary Clinton was the right president. And so i think its unfair this, this 2 tiered system of justice, this t tiered system of who was allowed to say what and what youre allowed to say its not america, its not who we are. And thats why these elections are, you know, craig, you know, again, you know, it, weve all been looking at the poles and ill even go further. I mean, considering the dismal polling that weve had over the last few years, every time i see a pole, i give the republican 3 more points. Ok, i think that its fair to do, considering how bad theyve been over the years here. But lets say that they get the victory, that its possible that the polls are saying, is the country going to be any less divided . That answer is, ah, no. Im saying i like it. I just want to push back on the fact that the democrats have anything anti establishment in their party. First of all, the grass roots of the democrats have now joined hands walk, walking, locks them with the establishment. Democrats. In fact, the, our Revolution Organization that was started to fund and promote grass roots, candidates to fight against establishment as now, endorsing all establishment. But at the end of the day to as well when it does come to this election cycle. If we do get these republicans in here, a lot of the graduates republicans were already wished away in their primaries and they thought that process was unfair. And with, with a system that is even worse than it was in 2020. In other words, a lot of the laws they implemented for these elections that were already a wonky system, like dropboxes and mail it mass mailings. Theyre implemented. So at the end of the day, i think were going to see a country even more divided whether or not more republicans get in or not. So or did he say i addressed that because, you know, you know, im sure this could be a change election, but what will change . I mean, im very cynical because, you know, the republicans can win elections, but it always is the left that determines the agenda. It that, that, thats the pattern that i see here. Even when donald trump was president , even when they had the majorities in both houses, it was still a very much a democratically driven agenda. Then he said, what, what does it mean for victory, for the republicans here . What is the agenda . Because we see what people are rejecting, but what are they embracing . Go ahead dennis. Yeah, you know where i, where i started this discussion was on the practical aspirations of American People today relate to economic and security on families versus here. And when you see the cost of red going through the rough meat and, and other staples of the american diet, people are very concerned about that. And theyre going to respond as a balance crime. And her cities as substantially and really violent americans will respond to that. But i just want to say that i, i dont think that the American People are especially ideological and will people within what parties wish id allergies might do election. When you, when you govern you much govern pragmatically, and anytime you see governance be propelled by ideology without connecting to peoples practical aspirations, youre going to see a disaster. I think, i think thats probably the best explanation. I have heard in a very long time because because not everyone is ideological. People in the media certainly are very ideological and they want everyone else to think like they do. All right, you know, i have done 40 programs over the last 9 months on ukraine is is 1st my 1st break. Ok. So jennifer is ukraine on the ballot this year . I think its one of many things on the balance to be clear. There is a distinction between the d, n. C, political pundits and american citizens who are voted democrat. Those are the ones that are going into a stablish, but i think many will be voting republican this year. Of course ukraine is one of the many issues on the ballot, but it is because yes it was, it was big for a while here and im talking about again, im speaking from the midwest. I know one of my other colleagues here is also in the midwest, but especially in wisconsin and some, some other places. I know i have friends all over the country where all this was a big issue. Now were kind of kind of over it not seen as much and then we started to get angry because every other day, were seeing one more 1000000000. 00 here. 1000000000 dollars, 100000000000 dollars. 50000000000. 00. I get it man. Let me ask my other name, let me ask where there gets what he, what do you think that he says that on the bow a real quickly you dont want to go to craig. I not per se, except that people are becoming increasingly concerned about where our country is taking us in terms of, of nuclear policies. And thats something i personally concerned about. I think america, any other nation just to just swear off for strike policy. And its particularly a concern of mine and my, let me, let me ask right here. Is it on the ballot . No, its Foreign Policy in both parties. And most americans unfortunately have Foreign Policy down the rabbit hole. Its not an issue thats right in your face. All right, we, i have our proposition before we end the program. Lets reconvene, you know, in a weeks time we could do a post mortem, give it a thought, like a producer. Well contact you as all the time we have. I want to thank my get to milwaukee cleveland and in las vegas, i want to thank my viewers for watching us here at archy. See you next time. Remember, cross like ah, only 41 percent of us adults have enough savings to cover a 1000. 00 emergency. We have record numbers of americans who are on the verge of having their cars repossess more than a 137000000 americans are facing Financial Hardship because of medical debt. In america. We do have a well 1st system in place to help people who are struggling financially, but its a conditional system. You have to prove to the government that you truly need help. The simplest way, like explain the basic income, is that its like Social Security for the rest of us, a basic income would be a Monthly Payment that would go to everyone, just a 1000. 00 a month. No strings attached. I dont know, i just wont go crazy. The reason that i am a fan of guaranteed income because it is this idea that everybody is deserve it and just that virtue of your being here. Oh, everything is changing. And one of the elements of this picture is that the dispersed, the attack of the west or counter attack to stop the duration of their positions. They decided to concentrate on russia. Their real aim is of course, saving the 500 years of the nation and the emitter intermediate a. They have to 1st to take our trash. Ah ah, watching it was a with ah, and im still shocked. 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