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The hi, im rick sanchez. Ive been doing news for 30 years, as you may know, kind of in 2 languages all over the world. Here in the u. S. Interviewed for president s. Worked at many of the big tv networks in the United States. Dont like what they do by the. Busy way, you know why i think news should be honest and direct and impactful, and this is direct impact the. All right, lets get to it this, this interview with the russian president is important. If for no other reason, then because most americans never get to here or see this guy unless he trips or takes off his shirt. Literally. Thats the only way americans, whatever. See, mister, put, look, whether you think you hate the guy or what do you think is wrong . What do you think is right . What are you basing that on . If you live in the United States of america and the guy, he, by the way, talks all the time. I mean, mr. Fulton, president brush are parked all the time. News conferences that lie for hours sometimes. But youre never allowed to see or hear those things. So what are you, im basing your opinion of him on if you happen to live in a place where hes never said, uh, what are you basing your opinion of a man on rachel motto, anderson cooper. Sean had it in the state department. Raphael, im your neighbor. What do you think . So she thinks, i mean, well, what would happen if somebody actually sat down and talked had a conversation with Vladimir Putin to see what he has to say. I mean, that sounds crazy, right . But for reasons that i have explained, but very much appreciate now i think differently today me myself for its interest, i think differently today. Then how i used to think i used to believe, like, perhaps some of you maybe still do that as far as state department, and theyre loyal servants, and cable news said it was so then by golly, it must be so right. Cnn said that its gotta be right. And if they said somebody was bad, that they must be bad. No matter who theyre talking about. Again, seeing the world more globally. And i began to realize that while look, i love this country, i came from cuba, communist country. So i love this country for its people, for its origins, for all the good that weve done around the world. But there is also much that we are doing and have done, which is kind of dom and maybe not so good. And then theres the stuff thats being sold to us as truth when in fact, if you do a little digging, even maybe just a little googling, you can find out. Its a lie, a lie. And that is why when i, when i learned this weekend, that a friend of mine was in moscow doing an interview with the russian president vladimir put. And i actually reached out to him. And he confirmed tucker, carlson and i have remain friends over the years. We worked together and see and then we appeared together that and then he would often have me on his show when he moved over to uh, fox news. And weve spoken over the years over about a lot of things, business spots, its politics, etc. By the way, cnn fired me, i could argue for telling too many truths. And eventually fox news fired him. Also, i think for tele, too many truths. And now our paths kind of crash again. Because while, while we both, i think, love our countries, were both uniquely curious enough to ask me questions like, how the wars, while wars, why of nukes, wild lives. Why, why is so much of my heart are and money, your heart or money being sent abroad. And whos getting rich office stuff, those are not. Those are questions that are never asked those answers by the way, are not going to come from the cosy relationship that are missing. I has with the state department or the military contractors that they pitch softball questions to on their shows every single bite. Know, we sometimes have to look elsewhere right now and want, why not ask those that the state department doesnt want you to hear from if nothing else just just to see what they have to say, right. Whats their version of events . And with that, i want you to hear this interview because i think its important to say that right. Now, i want you to hear this interview that my friend tucker carlson, just did with president put there we go. Whats the best way to but because your basic education isnt history as far as i understand. Yes. You think the possible elizabeth . So if you dont mind to, i will say normally 30 seconds or one minutes. So give you a short to reference to history for giving you a little historical background, please. And so right away you notice of mr. Foot and goes right to the point that is difficult for most americans who live in our 24 hour news cycle to understand. And its this, that the history, the culture of the language of russia and ukraine are intertwined. And much of what ukraine is, its infrastructure at schools is building its power plants were put there by russia. Yet in 1991, it was all seemingly given away. Ministry from were coming to the point where the soviet ukraine was established. Then in 1991, the soviet union, the lab to find that a company and everything that russia had generously bestowed on ukraine was dragged away by the latter one. Just so this is stuff that plays into whats happening now and its stuff. Most americans know nothing about. So then he moves into the expectation, expectation, because even the loss of ukraine would have been ok says mr. Putnam, because of us promised at the time that it would help russia, it will help russia become a partner in the world community. And the 2 would cooperate. United states and the new russia. Weve become friends, both mister pool, and historians say that that is what the wes kind of promised. But that is not what the west kind of bid. But heres what i see schools i want you as an american citizen and your viewers to hear about this as well. Going. Bush and you get, you need the former russian leadership assume that the soviet union has ceased to exist, and therefore, there were no longer any ideological dividing line. Is that given me a bunch of other from that i will say, this goes to russia even agreed voluntarily. And proactively to the collapse of the soviet union was away well. And believe that this would be understood by the so called civilized was that using the same as we listened to this interview, there appears to be no bigger thorn in the side of mister quote. And then most russians then. Busy he has come to be known as what he describes added and i think what has come to be known as the nato deception. This is huge, right . The nato deception which led to the nato expansion. I mean, that was never papered in the form of, of a treaty. There is no shortage of witnesses and reports that detail how us officials did in fact make a promise to russia. Upon the unification of germany and upon the soviet collapse, that nato would not encroach would not threaten, would not expand toward the russian border. Theres all kinds of indications that that was said. They were handshakes their quotes. Yet, by all indications that turned out to be a lie, it is, though it lives good thing through the fact that often in 1991 when russia expect that they put the lead. Welcome, thanks. Have a big rather leave family of civilized nations. Nothing like this happens to the trick this. I dont mean to show you personally when i say you, of course im talking about the United States. The promise was that nato would not expand east for it, but it happened 5 times. They were by waves of expansion, which all the rain and all that. We were trying to persuade them, we were saying, please dont we are as bourgeois now as you are the we are market economy and there is no communist spark the bowers. Lets negotiate. Moreover, i have also said this publicly before and a boom. I didnt go to that. There was a moment when and she had a question about the visual with this circuit and ripped started growing between me to sleep for that else and came to the United States. Remember, he spoken congress and said the good words, god bless america. Even though everything he said were signals of let us and they tricked us. Thats what he says. And then he says, look, despite that president yeltsin went to the United States and said, god bless america, its okay. We can work through this, we can still somehow be friends. And despite all that, now this is mr. Perkins version of why marshall has done the things its done. Why it thinks the way it thinks and believe them or dont believe them, its important to hear what he has to say, right . Mr button says that he still attempted some type of reproach meant despite. Busy of the things that you just heard there theme and says, this is so important. And so interesting. He sat with one of our president s. Hes gonna tell it here. Youre gonna listen to him, say it in his own words. He offered to join nato. Of the less the building kind of meeting here in the kremlin with the outgoing president bill clinton right here in the next room. I said to him, a couple of i asked him easily, but i see the best thing. A lot of people in your bill, do you think of russia asked to join nato . Do you think it would have happened . Because google doesnt actually seem to you a southern way. He said, you know, its interesting. I think so you to this was, it was in the evening when we met for dinner. Its just like he said, you know, come on, ive talked to him, id say no, no, its not possible. Now most especially if you may have the one that you can ask him, i think he will watch our interview. Hell come for a mentor. And apparently mr. Portland continued try. He says, even after being turned down on the nato offer to president clinton. He then tried the poach, but once again, this time with a different president , this time it with it was with george w bush. Cool. Me offered a deal to share their nukes so that the russians and the United States could create a joint, a Missile Defense system, to make the world safer, he thought, and turned their missiles, not at each other, but away from each other to protect themselves against others he says president bush liked the idea of when he presented it to him. But kind of liza rice and her team at the state department did not did not even as mr. Buttons suggested to them that this cooperation is cooperation. Could change the world. He said to them at the time as they knew it, i would, i said, im just imagine if we could set goals such a global Strategic Security challenge together, new the world will change for them. They will probably have disputes, probably economic and even political ones. But we could drastically change the situation in the world to disappear. He says yes. And you and asks, are you serious . I said, of course we need to think about it on. So what, what thats convenient. I said go ahead please. Then secretary of defense gates form and director of c i a and secretary of state rice came in here in this cabinet right here at this table. They sat on the stable me the for administer the Russian Defense minister on that side. You said a bottle and they said to me, yes, we have thought about it. We agree . I said, i think god, great, no, but with some exceptions. So twice youve described us president s making decisions and then being under cut by their agency heads. So it sounds like youre describing a system thats not run by the people who are elected in your talent, even though you try printing, just try to get those for fairly for the book. And then they just told us to get lost. If im not going to tell you the details, because i think its incorrect after all, give us confidential conversation. But with our proposal was declined. Thats like that even in the and they just told us to get lost in the end. They just told us to get lost. You know, its interesting because theres already a lot of folks have been watching this interview and a lot of folks are saying, all this history stuff is ponderous and as boring. And i dont know why this paper cross and dude allowed him to just go on and talk for so long about all this stuff. Why did they just cut to the chase and talk about ukraine, but just i feel like it matters now. Right, well, so lets, lets go there. How does that . The history, all of this so called to ponder is a stuff that he went through. How does that have to do with the recent attack on ukraine . For mr. Put signs were obvious. He says, because of all of that, but he has explained the west, the us nato, had it sites on ukraine. And it was just a matter of time before they took it share, you know, now what else made it was expansion to the, you know, as well, we were promised. No nato to beast. Nothing interested the east, as we were told. And then whats the good . No, they said, well its nothing shined on paper. So well expand the at the machine. So they were fine waves of expansions of the Baltic States the whole of Eastern Europe and so on. You want to know it come to the main thing. They have come to the ukraine, ultimately, the issue in 2008 at the summit in bucharest, they declared that the doors for ukraine and georgia to join nato were open to the doors for ukraine to join nato. Were open and there you go. And thats how we got to where we are and it is a process. And when we come back, im going to be talking to somebody whos really smart on this issue. Calling next is here with us. And i think its important for he and i to talk about not just the interview, but what this interview will signal. Will it change . Anything . Dont go away because thats an important part of this conversation. The israel too, is so selfish. Entrance is not just destroying is rep is not only destroying the so called legitimacy as well in the eyes of the world. But its destroying the whole of the western project. The whole of the notion of western civilization and somehow western civilization being exceptional for the greatest civilization. Now people are looking down at the west. The ok welcome back. This is going to be important conversation because theres so much meet here. And i, i cant think of anybody else id rather talk to about this than uh, garlic nixon. There he is. Hes, you know, girl and hes the co host of the critical, our on split the radio and hes joined us in the past. All right. You know what i want to start with this program that we do that a lot of people really like it may be some people who dont, but its called direct impact, right. What will be the direct impact of this interview that mr. Put adjusted with duck across and thats my question to you. Well, i think the 1st thing is that for those who watch it, who havent enough of an open mind, that they dont just come in there with, you know, the video con mindset will i understand that and someone whos, theyve been presented as an irrational, aggressive militaristic adversary and it does have, there was an intellectual and philosophical perspective from the other side that now forget because what happens is this an order for the us of a note for the neo cons to, you know, create all of these international adverbs. Everything must be human eyes and theyre just aggressive savages who hate a democracy like this gives us a nuance to understand that the people that we are told are crazy. Irrational people have a Historical Context and have a valid reason to oppose some of the things that were doing love him or hate them, and love americans who dont understand or hate americans to understand. Youve got to give credit to mister bowden for being able to articulate thought patterns that may explain to the average american who has never gotten a chance to hear the guy. What the possible explanation for what hes done is, isnt that its, its just so simple. I mean, you get disliked your neighbor without ever talking to your neighbor, correct . Right. And to see the problem that the, the people, the, the neo cons ill use that term are going to have, is that theyve spent so much time dehumanizing vladimir, put and making him and, you know, not a person, just some kind of an angry entity out there who doesnt act based on any factual information whatsoever . Now, people are going to start asking questions such as, well, i thought we couldnt bargain within their saying that theyre ready to bargain right now. Im have, if i did what much time, why dont we bargaining with you . And i talked about some of these things. He says, easy live. I dont think he can be lying because these things can be tracked. And i had a conversation with bill clinton, where i offered it to him, right, that i, as the president of russia would offer to join nato. I dont, in other words, nato is against me. Why dont you let me in that way we can Work Together . In other words, i want to be your friend. Thats what he was saying to bill clinton and apparently bill clinton staff turned it down. Right. And kind of provable stuff. Is it . Absolutely, and let me add this that i had a deal the stumble deal and i got signatures on that deal and you guys got rid of it. And so now theyre arguing that he wants to attack nato for who knows why. So the man who wanted to join nato, you turn that down. And now youre telling me that just randomly, hes just decided that when he gets finished with ukraine, hes just going to attack nato for no reason. Is there anything you think and its hard for you and die because we tend to have a global perspective of the world. So i do, i guess you and i are nerds compared to most americans because you do listen to shes speeches or comments. Sometimes not all of them. I do listen to mr buttons, comments. Sometimes i listen to mr. Monteros comments. Sometimes i listen to the people that were not supposed to listen to, but most americans dont. So let me ask perhaps the question this way. Did you see anything in his comportment where the average american will watch this interview and think this guy is a thug . This guy is no good. Yes, guy is a liar. Or did you think he broke through for the average person . You know, it just depends on how far you go on, shall we say a person is it depends on how much a newer they are to the, the Foreign Policy of the United States and how much they still believe the things theyre being told. I do think this, that the numbers that cnn, fox, etc, are, are, are following the numbers of people who are watching the following. I think that this is, by the way to be made here, pardon me for interrupting you. Theyre all criticizing the, uh, the interview. Yeah. Uh, i just, i just, uh, shared with you earlier, i was just that conversing with tucker, who is a friend of mine, and we share ideas. And i told him, in fact i, i wrote to him, uh, ill tell you what i said. I said cnn said that it was a softball interview. What did you want . What did they want you to do . Kick them in the grime, and to a certain extent, theyre going after and why . Well, because cnn works for the people who are pushing war and pushing us in the imperialist or whatever you want to call the international address. And thats what they work for. And thats those are the people that they are, they are bringing in now literally putting in a chair to talk to us on camera data, isnt it . Interesting softball, talking about softball interviews, and again on this topic a so fascinating because ive been there i worked at cnn, cnn, they do softball interviews with the very people who created and orchestrated the rock more and never wants to. I hear im invite them and call them on the fact that they created an orchestrated a failed war, an invasion, but yet theyre asking tucker to be more hot to be harder and stronger with with, with mr. Paint on that point seems hypocritical. Well, in the bottom line is theyre going to say in a general sense, it was a softball interview, but if you get into the specific details of it, i would ask where, you know, so theyre going to attack it from a general perspective. In fact, uh cnn had the really odd story today where they talked about the crazy conspiracy theories that of the place present it put and put together, put forward such as that the elected officials dont actually run things that theyre murky people in tobacco. Actually one thing the problem they have is that most americans believe that now. So now when they say, well, hes a crazy conspiracy theorist because he believes that the things that most of you also believe. So americans are going to read that and recognize that just like our ruling leads, our Mainstream Media is getting further and further away from the electorate. If there was one, and were going to do a 2nd show on much of the other stuff that was discussed here, but were on the history right now. Everything that predicts the evasion of ukraine began when m. S key makes his argument in russia really want it to be our bodies. They want it to be our friends, they want it to be like us. They looked up to us and we instead essentially, to put them, we decided not to allow them to be our friends. In fact, we became aggressive toward them. Thats the story that he was trying to explain. Do you think he told it successfully . I think he told it successfully, theres one thing that hes not getting there. That was very important that i think he could have elaborated on. And that was why, but he, he mentioned because we are large, independent the country. Right. And so he, he, i think he could have elaborated more on how nato does not want independence. And he could have tied that to the north stream attack. You go to ty at that, to some of the other things going on. But i think he elaborated well on that particular point, but theres some other things he could have tied it to good or bad. My opinion, i think this interview will go a long way toward making american see the ukraine situation in the different lights. Do you agree . I agree, i think that it will also go a long way in helping americans see Foreign Policy in a different light. Because once a person realize that theyve been lied to this level, once they realize that theyre being asked to give people are asking 70000000000 a whole 1000000000. Whats with all of this money . And now that here were you. Now what to spend all of this money before an adversary whos saying i dont want to fight to work this out. People are going to start asking about china that it in a ron and then as well and say, well, theres some of these other people out there that are also very smart point, but you just spent, why are we spending money on a country that says we dont want to fight with you. That is a very, very articulate way of phrasing that darling, its always a pleasure. Thanks so much. Theres. Oh, so much more to talk about. But this is a very good start and thank you for joining us. Before we go, i do want to remind you of something. We have a mission here and its really pretty simple. I talked about this all time besides of the world. And ill stop living in these little boxes that you see. This interview goes a long way towards stopping by the way. Troops dont live in boxes everywhere. Im rick sanchez. Hes garland next and ill be looking for you again right here, where i help to provide a direct impact. The take a fresh look around his life kaleidoscopic isnt just a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real opinions. Fixtures designed to simplify will confuse who really wants a better wills, and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented as fast . Can you see through their illusion going underground . Can the 1935 fast is easily led by dictator Benito Mussolini decided to expand its colonial empire in africa and take over the opium. 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