Not the only country in the Southern Hemisphere to express interest in joining the ever growing brit clock with ben as went on its way to becoming a full fledged member as well. Earlier my colleague became aaron and spoke to steven group head of the african governance and Diplomacy Program at the south African Institute of international affairs. He says, countries wants to join for x because of resentment to us and europe in germany. The country see something in bricks. They want to join this club. They want to join this place to, to amplify their voices. I dont think any countries are going to join immediately. I think that will be a decision that the heads of stifled type towards the end of the year. And we shouldnt forget the full countries joined in johannesburg last year at the summits. A couple of countries in the end decided not to join like Sergeant Tina and saudi arabia has needs a join. No, not joined, but yes, a lot of countries, a few points would be over 40, have expressed interest in joining the blog. And what is it was that special, something about breaks that, that makes it so appealing to countries. Im looking at a well that is will say that is more equitable bricks has been supportive of efforts to reform the Un Security Council to give developing countries more voice. The world is very different to what it looked like in 1945. I think that is sort of diversity. I think theres common ideology and common interest that that drives the countries to wants to be a part of something which seems to be clearly succeeded. I think thats part of the attraction of the countries in the, in the block that apply for the info of us dominance of the International System of europes dominance. And so they have countries that are definitely seeking an alternative and a different way of configuring the world and setting the rules of that world. And how do you think this is going to affect those countries in the world of viewing the rise of bricks with trepidation . I was in south africa last year when the expansion of bricks was announced. And the us in particular, another western powers. Were looking at it quite nervously. I think theres a, theres a lot of negative uh, feeling about it. I dont think its trying to replace the g 7. The g 20. All of these blocks exist exist, but i think they will be perhaps discouragement of some countries that might have wanted to join. They may be some of the being, but i dont think really the waste is going to be able to do anything about brakes expanding because its the free will of these countries. The russian indian ties are blossoming across many fronts, including film making. An indian cruise in moscow to shoot seems for its film, which is to come out. This september, our correspondence visited the shooting location in central moscow with behind the scenes of a field let spring partly show tape in moscow. This is a hollywood production. And if youve ever heard of connie would leave me, its huge. Its like bully would, but its from south india and the film where all of these trucks behind me here just for it is living up to its name already look racist a full time. The and i was, is that, so im being watched 10 millions of times. The reason this guy, the j whos the biggest access in indian, sitting them all the director is been cut, cut off who and hes also a huge tool. He told me most go is playing starring role in the film multiple plays a very important part in the film. And so with the per diagnosis of the, some of those under major, you know, a total of events and ready to realize theres a lot of things and stuff happens here in moscow. So i wanted a very new plays which most of the indian audiences have not seen before. So thats why i chose because every se, bollywood films income have proof of few movies that shocked you. But if you go south of, in the model, lot of films of being shot in moscow or anywhere. And i shift this, she says, is this delta much more collaboration between russia and india . Culturally . I think its about time. I think a lot of collaborations will happen because we have uh, russian cultures and they can name with them from, you know, the so theres a lot of indian kids wants to learn russian and the language and the culture and stuff and that it is a so so its, its always that it is always being that and uh, i think, i think from know on, i think slowly um, itd be better, dies the bit better collaborations and, you know, close to collaborations and collaborations in films, movies and detain when i think it will all happen now. I think its its, i think weve just started it. And um, im sure it is a go to go along with. I just want to give you a sneak peak of filming. Now, behind the scenes are based in sequence taking place here in moscow. This is going to be one of the main parts of the movie. So many is due to wrap up shortly and the film is going to be out in september. Its going to be translated into several languages, including english. And i dont know about you, but i am ready to book my tickets right now. So lets even scheme of voting for aussie inlaw skin. Do say was r t up next part to a foreign minister survey line problems interview with Russian Media by the see, what is your assessment of the following official statement by the federal department of Foreign Affairs of switzerland, Russian Foreign minister, sergey love. Ralph was the 1st person with whom swift minister cassius discussed the practical details of a planned peace conference on ukraine. A genuine Peace Process can only take place with the participation of both. What are the conditions for such talks to take place . Theres just one word of truth in this that we had a meeting. I see. We took part in the new york meeting of the Un Security Council on palestine. Ive known him for a long time. He has been rotating in the group of 7 for quite a while and served as the chair actually the elect, a new chair from the members every year. So ignacio castle was at that meeting too and asked for a one on one meeting with me. So we never concealed to the fact that we were having a meeting to pictures of the 2 of us were taken when the delegation is left. And this happens right after the demos World Economic forum, where the copenhagen format was held by switzerland on its sidelines as requested by the ukrainians. So he asked me if i saw his media stake out after the meeting. I said i didnt, and he told me and then he stated to the media that was after another ukrainian piece, formerly meeting. They came to the conclusion that there was no points inconvenient without rush. I want you to know. I said they didnt really need to meet up again to realize that given their experience. And if they didnt realize this, then why do they hold that meeting in dallas . Im not betraying any secrets here really. And by revealing this information, ive told this to my colleagues on many occasions, even if you dont reveal us and chris went, wont be upset with us. So he said to me that he just wanted to make a smooth entry into the process in order to be able to adjusted from within because they wanted to prepare a to put conference, which is any set. It might not be possible to invite russian to the 1st part of it. So the only to the 2nd part. So i asked him what they were going to do at the 1st part of the conference, which she told me, they were going to finalize this a lensky formula as it had many things. And, and thats the developing countries were interested in. And i told him, quite frankly, there were 3 things, units that zalinski and the west to were after and rushes capitulation and withdrawal to its 1991 borders of the russian leadership and brought to justice will support marshal and reparations. And in between the lines, there was an obligation to be imposed on russians regarding troops that could be deployed within the 200 kilometers borders own. As for energy before the security for Nuclear Security and cultural cooperation with the exchange of po ws search for missing persons that you know, those are just peripheral items put in place around this ultimatum of to win the hearts of the global majority with these countries are being enticed in the following manner. All right, so you dont want to be enemies with russia. You dont want russia to pay reparations. You dont want to bring it to court. We understand how about you just take the Food Security issue that just supervisor what security or Energy Security of these people are all just high class fraudsters. I mean high class in their own areas of responsibility areas they supervise and their relevant governments, but they are frauds at the core, the schemes they offer our fraud schemes theyre doing so deliberately. But it is impossible not to see this and some of our partners, including several bricks countries that attended previous meetings. We know for sure that at every meeting, they emphasize the need for having a conversation with russian. We appreciate the signals sense from their side. But if, as the west ones, the zalesky formula is adjusted and fine tuned, and the west knows how to do that. For instance, by introducing meaningless less which was provisions about a quality security interests for well keeping the essence on changed. That is not the path that we should follow really take the chinese positions one that we respect to the formulated their own 12 items. The last february, and recently german chancellor, all our shows paid a visit to chinese president fusion. Paying right after that, shouts announced quite dest, honestly, the shooting pink supports the peace conference in switzerland. Weve got a question prepared on that subject, mr. Law for all, so dont st. Paul, it for us yet. Well, the point i wanted to get across is that according to china, the thing we need to do 1st is to get an insight into the root causes of the crisis. I mean, the cold war mentality must be dropped one where the parties see each other as adversaries were enemies. We need to have a clear cut obligation to look for solutions that would take into account security aspects and ensure that security is indivisible. This is a very different approach. Now, china with going back to the recent statement is by for administer at one e and other chinese officials, china called for a conference that would be acceptable both to russia and ukraine. This effectively means it isnt the zaleski formula which should be starting with. In fact, his plan should be put aside, or if like our president said, they are willing to do that. Then we can start discussing the basic foundations for talks from you upon which Everything Else will be built. As for switzerlands initiatives, the swiss are not covering our meetings with them properly. In fact, there was just one meetings at the end of january or an early february. We dont remember what exactly. And even if we forget about that, you create aspect, switzerland is not a Good Platform for us. It is because they are no longer a neutral party. We should, instead of being a neutral country, the holding outright adversarial stance as they signed and joined in on every sanction against russia. Without exception, some countries those that are not part of the european union, wanted to add new ons to their activities on that front. However, switzerland eagerly joined in on every section imposed on the rush of more over several months ago. They have adopted a doctrine where a strategy of national security, which says they should pursue security partnerships, not with russia, but against russia. So its rather odd to see them presenting themselves as so hospitable, when all they hope to do is retain their relevance as mediators. Because until recently, everyone was fine with meeting in geneva or in sienna. So thats that. Some, you know, some of the 10 for mr. Lab road. Weve covered the zalinski plan and were all pretty clear about that. No discussions here as for the used on board agreement, it doesnt work as well because we have been double cross there as well. Are there any other options . Are there any alternatives . Any 3rd option . If we look at the situation on the ground, we can see that russia control some parts of the heart of region, but god only knows what will happen tomorrow. The situation is evolving as we speak. Are we fighting until the end, or is there Something Else we could formulate an agreement of sorts and present that to the world. But its just for them to do it a little push. The president putin has already put forward his formula after the assembled process was over and after the west winds beyond supplying long range munitions and arms to crane and also started to help them. Retrofits and their equipments. Yes, there are western specialists retrofitting many different types of missiles and ukraine to extend their range. And after these missiles started being used to attack civilian targets. In fact, there was an episode when they use drones paths with a lot of explosives and sent them to one of our strategic airfields. When we analyzed the equipment used, we saw that the drone itself was upgraded to extend its range significantly. After that came the crime in bridge attack, then they kept attacking some estoppel hindering navigation in the black sea attacking both warships and commercial vessels. And im not even talking about bold garage curse and all the other terrorist attacks on the russian cities. At some point. And president putin spoke about this one, answering the question as to how we can make our own land safe. He said, we need to move the line from which they can attack us. I believe that hark of place, an Important Role here. And what next . Where do we move the line next . Says wells. Mean if we move it to hard codes, the Previous Border will be safe, but then other territories will be under attack. So we still have to move forward. Our position is that the special military operation must continue, but we signal clearly that we are ready to negotiate and these are not empty words. However, speaking to the landscape is useless. For many reasons, his master is upset and we quoted one of them earlier. All those words about losing our head gemini, about the geo political failure of the west. In fact, it was, youll said burrell, who stated that it would be very difficult for the west to accept such a defeat to pieces because their reputation is on the line. I personally dont think it would cost them much in that respect. After the us fled from vietnam after they fled from of ghana, stan, or looking at how they are being driven from a rock or take syria where theyre being pressured from different groups. Is there a single case where the us remains involved . Unless of course, the goal has been to so chaos from the very start. But if their real objective was the same as the stated one, then it means they failed. They failed across the board. They, katie, for example, a tiny nation with the americans have been in charge of it for more than 100 years since 1918. Now there was rapids crime gangs running the place and some criminals came to power. The u. S. Has been trying to deal with that, establish some agreements now there was ramp and crime gangs running the place and some criminal came to power. The u. S. Has been trying to deal with him and establish some agreements with triple a country right in the us back yard. Theyve been focusing a lot on hating, including at the Human Security council, but with no success so far it looks. How about they just deal with that 1st rush that has to deal with ukraine because there is a threat of posts to us almost before the americans. The threats coming from heating is at the very least drug trafficking. All these drugs are go into the us. Now i want you to you to tell us about shooting things initiates save, but youve already covered that. So im going to ask a bro, the question, something that many people would also like to know and we all agree that it will be all, some a fresher remains in the course of independence from the west. I personally think that we should move towards not being dependent on anyone, but in the context of our relations with china. What do you see there is a risk now that weve moved away from the west of us be coming to a reliance on china . Maybe we wont, but if we do, would that be a problem or not . After all, when now, best house with china . The china is a different civilization entirely and it has different principles at its core. Now that doesnt mean they dont want to benefit from their relations with us. They want to develop their economy, their social sphere, their security, just like everyone else. In that aspect. China is still a rather young country. Yes, its civilization is thousands of years old, but there came a point in its history. When it suffered greatly under colonialism, colonizers came from all over from European Countries from japan. And the chinese remember that very well. It is in their nature to buy their time. Never to rush to quote things yelping. A journey of a 1000 miles starts with a single step. If were speaking about china is dominant position in the modern global economy. Theyve arrived at it in a very discreet way, without people noticing those 20 years ago. The Global Chinese factory was making products for the west, close to toys, and then step by step over time they came to their present position. So patience is one of the remarkable qualities of the chinese people. China now has emissions that span the entire planet to that is certainly true. Choosing pain has presented several initiatives, like the community of common destiny, which says that we all need to work out some common principles, the built and road initiative, and economic project with the goal of chinese expansion of any positive sense. The expansion of china is capital and industry there. Logistics chains really, there is a Global Security initiative to which has in many ways aligned with our own principals. Ive visited badging recently and i spoke to the chinese leadership. We discussed the implementation of all these initiatives. You were clearly if we look at the global context and Global Security, our primary goal is to ensure security in your ration because the, your atlantic model on which security had been based since the creation of the o. S. C, which was during soviet times the same model that we relied on after the disintegration of the soviet union. Im not going to name all the documents that we signed together to ensure our sec