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Maximum is to be down here. So i like to say the apple doesnt fall far from the tree here. Hold efficient for me and the other one, reading all consolidation and privatization of the new england fishing industry has made it nearly impossible for fishers working on a small scale to make a living. Tim rider is one of the few jig, godfrey, sherman remaining max, and we dont want the people out of the same opportunity to experience facing the way i did. And thats the saddest thing about this industry. Were bickering and arguing over microphones. You know what Council Meetings are in the press . Who suffers the most is that little kid that might not have a chance to go fishing or pursue his dream. All these things are there with my son or taking away from me. And they dont see that thats not in their pie charts and their flow charts and their circle graphs for scientists and their science. But i do the, the, the small coastal fishing communities do we even need the small mom and pop operators . I think a lot of people are concerned about this, the twice as raging industry stories of the United States on one side are people with deep roots in coastal fishing communities on the other. Or the wealthy owners of industrial fishing operations, who use their political and economic power to dominate the industries. The losers in this battle were small scale fishers, the fish and the oceans. Fishes, one of the most highly traded commodities on the planet. The average piece of fish changes hands about 7 times between the moment of capture and the moment gets to your place. The sea Food Supply Chain is long and fragmented with little accountability. The biggest losers in this broken system are the consumers who have no idea where their fish comes from, or often even what it really is safely. Labeling in general has been found. Unfortunately, to be full of miss labeling. The system is so tilted in favor of industrial fishing, but even with tax that is brought in by small scale, fissures is the value and there are minimal, profits are diminished. The industrialization of the seaford system is mimicking industrialization of our land base food system. Were seeing the squeeze and displacement of family fishermen and were seeing a collapse of infrastructure. And once that infrastructure is gone, it will never come back. This was the foundation, not just of a regional economy sort of a way of life. And it was an emblem of what was best about america, how people that were willing to work hard and come here and struggle could make a better lives for their children. Were looking at a shift in coastal america, like we have never seen the. I started in 1983 this year with my father on the on that side on the south end. Or is that much my childhood . That thought exactly the same as a kid does. When he goes out in the lake and the canoe and his vision for a parent, this with a rod and reel, is that kind of a feeling the school right there . The jeep goes. Fishing is one of the most sustainable methods of catching fish and its impact on Ocean Ecosystems is a fraction of that if its industrial counterparts, but its quickly becoming lost. Our various caspar zach is one of the few jig fishermen left and cody. Jake fishing is one of the oldest fishing is not the oldest fishing in the world. That is essence, its a line going down. The water was a couple of, of some very selective you get over school and if its not the right fish, then you can quickly move you know, a lot of its just time in the tides, right. And and the winds see the fish and there are underneath the school. Raise it up a little bit. The massive rafter of the, you know, just to your office the over 95 percent the rockfish coming out of alaska is all troll going. That means its called a large snaps, with what they call rock hopper here. That drags on the bottom with these big tires that roll over rocks and knives, tearing down pinnacles, caring out for catching a lot of rock fish. That ones for, as well as other spaces trying, when its done in its worst form, has of leveling effect. And it has a tendency to really just sort of strip away everything thats there. The carls and phonics, but also all the fish that are living in that particular area. Generally speaking, a smaller scale operations, well managed, is going to have less Collateral Damage than a large trawler that is part of drawings and areas. Over efficient you reached a critical level in International Waters in the late eighties was the use of a new generation of unimaginably long. Thats that stretched for miles. There were a 1000 boats fishing in the pacific with high seas drifting nets, 40000 miles of netting in the Pacific Ocean. Every night they caught millions of birds, dolphins, wales, turtles. They quart everything. Thats why, by the ninetys, somebody like me would feel motivated to be involved in overhauling the whole thing. I got photographed and went to the new york times. It instantly blew up. It was in newspapers all around the world. The United Nations did finally ban those things from that fishing became a conservation issue. Not just a allocation issue. The other guy liked him. Right. Why susan, they were running 80 miles to be able to catch the fish in a 30 footfall question. So many a night, so i went home wondering if this guy was coming back, these young guys and all the time to get to the fisheries going and then pushed out and pushed out. Whos one of the few guys i see puts in the extra effort he just loves it, and im glad he is going on big about of the votes here and built from scratch. One piece you know, from a mold all the way to the finished product. The next step, once its done as well, launch the mode, see trial, it get the kinks worked out and then go fishing boats like tims cost 2. 00 to 300000. 00. And every trippy takes cost to me around 500. 00 on a good day. He might land a few 1000. 00 worth of fish, but thats before he pays his crew. On a bad day, he might not even cover his expense. The, theres so many times of life where you people dont believe in what theyre doing or they just go through the motions. Im passionate about when i do, im proud of the fact that we have a minimal footprint where we go. I know if i hit the powerball for 40000000. 00 or a 1000000. 00 or whatever it is, i mean, really exact same thing im doing right now. Tomorrow. The fishing is peaks and valleys. Be pretty quick scan, kind of like the sharp, i guess the in the 1990. So need for conservation was finally acknowledged in new management and fisheries was established until then, fishers were all racing to catch the same fish. At the same time. To address these issues, a style called catch share management was established in quickly to a call on basically a fan of catch shares in a certain configuration, which is the person who fishes owns a share of the allowed catch. They dont own a share of the fish in the ocean, but when the catch limit is set, they own a share of that catch or what im not in favor of is you can only share the catch. And then you can sell that to somebody else or lease that to somebody else. And you sit back in a chair and make money off what somebody else is doing. Thats not an improvement on anything. I mean for a 36. 00 foot boat, the employees for 2 or 3 people in the sun, and then a couple of guys on shore run and fish around. You can save your 25 percent of that on your private market. Really either breaking even or losing money. Businesses like tens, he has to pay a landlord essentially for those fish. Fishermen dont need landlords. They need to be able to go fishing for me and another fisherman that i know for leasing out the flanders. Hes getting roughly what 75000. 00 a year. Thats pretty good. Anyone at home is making money and a lot of it, it has nothing to do with the business sucks. The pictures for kindly gamble. Some people did become fantastic stewards of of those resources. But unfortunately, a lot of people just became landlords and they started running access to go to work, to the people who catch fish for a living. It opens the door for the pocketed sorts, if you will, to be the next inheritors. The resource is a majority of the permits in quota can be bought by only a few companies and were looking at a wal mart situation on the ocean. Why dont you just give us the names of the 5 or 7 guys on especially all of this market. It is going in the private hands. And i think over time, the next logical inheritors of this resource are going to be corporations. For those who are are fed up. Weve had enough with policies designed to consolidate policies designed to privatize, designed to squeeze out are independent fishermen to join me and walking out. Were going to walk in and tell the public and sign of life and whats been happening of the they voted today to allow for 7 entities to control this whole fishery. That type of consolidation, that type of concentration of ownership. Its kurtz, our local economy is that depend on these working waterfront and we need to go up the chain. We need to have accountability in this process. And this is a work. And theres a select few people at the top that are making all the money. And theyre making the rules and benefits themselves the the cause of just doing your work phone from dish done is how could i escape this to be resolved to not get bored or to use my new uh, thousands of new cars or used to be unplugged . Why do i need to do that most of the way and we have this new do they have uh business to speaking on the truck or yesterday the 1st one being unemployed. So i see me in nevada. Let me just easy or go to the minneapolis so she left it over there so they brought him to the lady. And it says that it keeps mentioning due to the fact that it is when they transferred to the phone, was taped to the home, put it on. Yeah, if it is on your part from shri me find it. But if i do, cuz i dont really know, believe kids know the process for this night, they push out people to the photo. I mean, your School Previous yours. Oh, you know, participate sort of authority to also my phone. Im asking, but its not, the real thing to do is i have to go a little of videos and ill go with whats going on. So before were in the profession and well work on your, your cell phones of all, i mean, and you have that because that gives you really, the privatization came about for how that at that point i was only in my mid twenties. I didnt really see it as a threat. I figured, yeah, will make the fisheries a for and there are always any guys to catch it. So yeah, maybe its a good thing. I didnt know or 2 after that, i could not get a job. So i was basically shut out of the how that fishery that really was the beginning of the end for the happy days and the small boat fleet, and kodiak. This is basically the waterfront of. Busy all the way down there is the boat yard for small boats. And over there is the rest, the cannery row where you see the remaining processors, mostly all large corporate entities. Things that really didnt. Im consolidated the afternoon. And various caspar that a local fisherman home for about a kodiak. Im also a president of the alaska jake association, who im representing today. We do not support any new Management Program in the gulf of alaska, charles sector, which monetize us the fishery resources. The future of our Fishing Community depends on access of the fishery resource. Please maintain opportunity for the next generation of fishermen. Thank you. Thank you. There is the fishery management is the responsibility of Regional Councils across the United States. Some have chosen not to use the catch air system and seek other solutions for conservation management. This is the port of port orford. Its one of the very few. Dolly ports they call them where youre both stay on trailers and youre actually lifted in by crane into the open ocean. The is how we do it here. Its pretty intense. One of the most unique things about port orford is were restricted in both size. 40 feet and under 50 ton and under everybody has different opinions and theyre independent of course. But because we have so much in common, what benefits need benefits . My brother, the biggest we have against the small boat community is kind of multi faceted. The consolidation of quota and the corporate mindset that wants to get the fish for nothing. It doesnt really take into account the needs of a small community. So this is why about this is the goal that are if the plan is over time to have 10 big boats on the west coast that catch 95 percent of the food. You know, i mean, that seems extreme, but its not out of the question. The Community Port offered pretty unique population is 1200 between the Timber Industry and fishing. Thats what its all been about around here. This is the furthest west Incorporated Town in the continental 40. And then you buy a boat and you go further west. The everybody is the light version and we all use the same type of gear. It prevents us all from growing into the other sectors of trauma and towing that the port orford fleet is limited to 40 votes, all restricted in their size and equipment. They carry with each boat holding a valuable fishing in the permit system. The permits are tied to the boat. If you dont have somebody to pass that on to in your family, you have to sell it in order to get the money. You need to make it through your golden years. The permits do leave out of 4, offered its less revenue for the whole town. Every facet of business in this town is affected solely by our fishing. As we land between 4. 00 and 5000000. 00 worth of seafood here in port offer. I mean its a big dam deal. If that goes away it will just leave the place dry. So it really has a lot to do with the health and wellness of the community to be able to have access to the fish. Were right here. I mean, were looking at some of the richest grounds in the world. Could you imagine not having access to that for a community . See me in the former mayor of Saint Paul Island lives in a community of 400 people, solely dependent on fisher declining halibut stocks have meant that native fisheries have had to reduce their cash in the interest of maintaining the fish population right now ive only 3 strings im a little, im a little frustrated right . Things out there one year the weve got a couple of good size like right now. So this the kind of day we want to have right here the over the years. Seattle, base 123 has been operating in the bearing see right and simians, backyard, us catch shares of halibut and alaska are limited to hooked and lines fixtures. So when these trawlers accidentally catch how the wind facing for other species, theyre forced to throw the fish back 5 and theyre usually dead. These unintentionally cause fish are known as bi catch. There should be no way we should be shut down because we live right here and then everybody else that comes out of wherever they come from in america is going to be able to come up here and dish. No, not right. The see, the bycatch is accounting for almost all of whats available to be taken of the halibut stock. These are industrial, but its or district water boats to fully prosecute their fishery and the most economical way to go out there, set their nets due on toes and just drove it side what they are allowed to keep the costs to them of during those how better over the size just costs doing business. Thanks for come in, say one of the really great things about this bycatch issue is it unites groups cuz its really important to everybody that cares about the how that resource linda bank. And the fisher herself is the director of the alaska long lines fishermans association. In the early ninetys, she lived the 5 in which local community successfully band trolling in Southeast Alaska. You had stuff in here, fisherman, proud ocean leaving waste in wake despite hunger. Hows that for headline . The fisherman of Southeast Alaska had a long term concern about trolling. Having watched the foreign slates operate right off our coast and huge decline and the ecosystem and the reference in the box and, and how that. So this is a line of their catch per unit effort. So how much they were catching per tow when they were trolling for this species of rockfish co Pacific Ocean perch. And then this is what was happening to the abundance of that fish. Thats a big part of our concern. In the early ninetys, a u. S. Trawler came through here, then took enough rock fish as bycatch to close down one of our local fisheries. Or fishermen came to man said if you can do one thing for Southeast Alaska and will be you know, to close this area to drawing towards co wrangell. Do you know every community and se, passed a resolution in support of the closure and submitted them all with the council . It was a very motion pack time. We were pretty inflammatory and no surprise people thought we were a little overboard with what we said. There was a huge pushback from National Marine Fisheries Service and from the travel industry i know easily at the time was sure that with this much support from communities and small but freshman, the counselor would do the right thing. It took another 5 years before they took action to close trolling. It was the largest troll van in the world at that time. It was a huge grass roots effort started by the fisherman, but it ended up involving everybody from the bottom to the top. The is a 4 surface gets lost in the shuffle, where up, you know, against a 100000 pounds of fish quality doesnt matter. Ive been told that by the buyers, why are you going to pay top dollar for my fish when you can buy Something Else . And just label it whatever the for over a century the us as celebrated the efficiency in affordability of an industrial food system that processes and preserve massive amounts of food for consumers thats included. And today theres an intricate International Supply chain to provide to was cheap. So what the costs to the oceans, the fish, the small scale fissures and the consumer or staggering. Theres more than one good way to treat the main problem with the, with seaFood Supply Chain to set up right now is that since that changes hands so many times every time it changes hands a little bit of value is lost for the fisherman. The putting up a fish that way it keeps the flash nice and clean. Thanks a lot Higher Quality product prior to going out on the fin lender i was doing, were creating a mobile app trying to connect people with local c food options. And during that time working on their product, they realize there needed to be more options and it coincided perfectly with meeting time and session on the phone. The. This is not typical in the industry where the captain does a lot of delivering. And the captain is a fish car to get really sad to think about this area, having relied upon their fisheries. And with a lot of the important sea food, were kind of moving that new fishmonger is our idea directly selling fish throughout new englands kind of re establish what new england see for really is we want to have the ability to have a fish on our customers plate there was something around 10 hours ago which we can do cod sustainably. The direct market approach, it has different so were gonna walk in with a box of fish off the boat. Were not going to have suit and tie and fancy delivery machines. The parts are expensive and im going to plan with you whatever you do. Do not watch my new show. Seriously. 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