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Once advising the Foreign Policy. Chief of the European Union was british diplomats, alas to kirk, hes not a director of the baby based conflicts for him, and he joins me again from rome initially a task. So thank so much for coming back on. I know youre in a bit of an equi room kind of reba abused in a hotel california. Or i think the people that have to read your writing as to why i have to have the lyrics of the Eagles Hotel California on this device here. When our editor in chief is more into pink, floyd, but uh, yeah, people really will be my actually name check is im drawing this interview so gala or of in new york, thats all in the hills. Wednesdays, informal bricks, meeting bite and celebrating woods, the landscape. The wife has 2 separate welds now in the International Community versus the United States. And as i said in the intro, arguable vessel states of the United States, certainly, but increasing maybe the United States is, is becoming isolated. I think that although europe kids to come ahead, no, its too old washington. What kind of 2 laws . I mean, it is made itself of russell of washington, all the bite and administration. So no, it wants to keep its jobs. So they have to say the right things. But those great divisions and much more so in the ground level where people, i mean, the economic consequences of the sanctioning of russia. I just planning a now in terms of higher unemployment and people cant afford food. I mean, the food prices have gone up so much. There are many, many, most of the 41 percent battalions couldnt afford us on the holidays here. Many of them or in the policy is, is, is fairly serious. So, so the stirrings of anger, im pro chester. What has happened . But of course theres no, theres no vessel for that. Theres no structure. Theres no apologies. He couldnt ready take that for because all of the main parties were co opted, long a co 5 rustles this sort of central left send chris, right lookalikes. So, you know, the actual reform of the European Union, all the project or even a serious analysis of why they made so many mistakes. So, by to crate, we made the mistake of sanctioning russia made the mistake because thinking that this was all going to come right in, in, in, in a few weeks made the mistake of getting involved in the proxy will with ukraine. And made a huge mistake in, in pursuing this and formulating language and formulating expected outcomes that are actually going to head back like a boomerang. Them hurt them more because theyre not going to get you know, rusher isnt about to collapse either economically. Politically or culturally. In fact, its called stronger during those process of sanctions, and theyre trying to think europe has called a lot poor a long week, very much for the zip codes medias cents to ship. Where your speaking to me from the official Media Censorship in the European Union, and of course in, in britain as well. But the signs of defense in the United States. I mean, even the silver book of New York Times showing the fake news that rusher inject a market with. It was, in fact, it looks like the lensky force is getting civilians in, in dont you ask . How easy will it be . While, as you say, west in europe just sits there with many people dine this winter. How easy will it be for the United States to de couple from of, i suppose, west in europe and from the policy given that it has managed to do so very well, was in regards of failure in afghanistan and so on. It did manage to do the switch quite, quite easily, isnt it historically as well . Europe is divided and it makes it much harder for, for washington to go ahead because a narrative is always be, you know, nature is united in your nature is together. Thats no longer true that are on deep positions, both at the military level and also increasing the political level about that. But that point you made about the New York Times, you know, these things dont happen by accident. I mean, the last times the list keys came to came to washington. Um, you know, this was too too much for us. Welcome in congress. And he was a hero and he was a sort of celebrity. Everyone wanted to shake his hand. This time it was a bit different. So when the, when biden spoke in the us at the general assembly, you know, there was a policy in reference to ukraine, but most of it was about reforming the world older and advise the Security Council and the brakes. And how to actually change well order and yes, so was that a reference to, you know, where with ukraine, but it was born to play to plus and it was nothing and they looked so great and, and christ for them. I mean, the, the, the ukrainians were really unhappy. Lensky had a sort of angry sort of grim look on his face and the others did as well. And then, you know, the writings on the wall hold on one to youve agreed to, to meet with him. It was agreed to meet with him in the us and um, you know, when he did speak, i asked the simply, i dont know the exact numbers, but i mean, it was how soon to see. Yeah, i saw the reverse shots that was very interesting and of course it lends you not addressing congress either all of these congressmen who are being enrich guarantee or these, the donors, the backs them having to enrich from the companies from this conflict. Um, you mentioned sideways, so it is quite important these sort of signals and sign so you know that we havent shifted yet, but we are shifting in and washington is shifting um, just as your of is sort of the sort of robert crab like sort of trying to find a way for to but i mean, yes, it was quite important. The symbol, some of the, the change in the change in the tone as well. Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, as i say these things, a choreographed in washington. They dont happen by accident. This was a clear signal to zelinski. It wasnt just, you know, pull, you know, pull reception pulls the landscape. This was intended from the New York Times piece to the reception at the assembly. And also was, you know, no, no, no, no, no, congress, this time, no signing of a flag and everyone sharing and right. And, you know, this is the saying, i mean, look, what happened, the g 20 meeting went ahead. So lensky was not invited the last time he was there was no. So lets keep that. And even in vilnius can use or so. Overall, the full long cycle on the margins of the g 20 gathering to discuss nato and g 20, discussing the future of the project to crate. So the big shift and how are they going to get out of it . Well, its, its to, to exercise. Thats the relevance to vehicle so they, they dont seem to be able to check out of the hotel or do you credit the culture it goes because youre always welcome to come forgetting i, which is always difficult. And its, its different. Its going to be additional for everyone. I mean, you suggest, pointed out to your or, but i mean for the United States, particularly its difficult to get uh, because they keep talking that they want to phrase with conflict and they want to just simply a see saw along the constant construct line is around i should just have been told from so then schemes though we need to learn to live with the call and say we need to learn israel is it will we have prepared for a very long time like in israel, for example, we can live like the that was that i know well thats, yeah, but thats nonsense. I mean, the quite incapable of living like that unless see americans are prepared to finance it to the new york institute. I mean, the money is a, is all expended in front of autism and i mean, the forces of the decimate, they have almost no shells best. But the point is, youve, you know, youve handled a new, a new on me from amazon. It just doesnt work like this. I mean you, you may have to grow for a generation, but theyve really lost so many man, maybe up to her 1000000. Dad. Its really, i mean, its tragic, more than anything else. Its really tragic. Its all these young men have been sent off to that. Thats works for good. All the takes it the general assembly. Google thinks in washington that theyve been fighting right up to the last moment. The chief of defense stuff of the, of the premiums say they can probably just continue for 30 days, small, 3040 day small. But after that they wont be able to continue any offensive at all because theyre wrong. I mean, you, you know, you, you, you need bodies. Theres no point having weapons and tanks given to you. If you dont have bodies to drive the tanks or the whole weapons, and theyre getting to that point, which is a point really of complete spaces. I mean, almost as if, you know, or when your stung by a school can just different things, thoughts, new youre, youre just paralyzed and theyre getting very close to that. Does that mean the end of the war . Well, it depends which war were talking about in terms youll be understanding, it says, the less if you how to the greater to out in the sense that the less or do i mean see the military war inside you crazy. Well, i mean, thats probably coming to an end or low. We may see another chapter because russia has been diligently preparing another chapter to it. Its used as a period of the sort of offences where ukraine without success as being by me is head against the defensive florida. Russian. Russia has been quietly doing that as being costly renting a manufacturer of shows is drones over across tank. Steven and accumulates and it looks as if a ready and been delivered from the stall, piling these weapons, and there will stop hiring that cruise. I mean, you have the headlines, worry about the black sea fleet being damaged, some of the big zalinski victory. Well, how did they understand that . Why was there in that field from which to launch attacks on . So thats the bull, as well as they. I mean they havent been shutting, they did destroy all of the storm shadow munitions recently, but the burner smith at the break. Yeah, no doubt the brands rushed them some more if they still go standing. Um, but yes, i mean, yeah, visa, annoying to russia, but then ill just teach it can any way. I mean they hit one landing cross late damage to submarine with uh, after sending 10 Christmas Hans and uh, 3 go through out of the 10. Did some damage um, but in the, in the, in the Bigger Picture of the wall. I mean, its a pin break. I mean, you know, the russians just have to bite the bottom left. But you can say, you know, is the sign x ray of someone who is desperate not assigned to someone who is in a powerful position that you get around to doing this. These are just optics that they look great in the western press. All you know, headlines and some basketball being attacked and so, but it, it doesnt really do much and they are um, taking strong measures against it. And, you know, as it will be, the will, the moment solves the will be another launch of missiles. Were waiting to see in the winter. I think its quite evident for what we have very much you said, you know, across the russians here in terms of Telecom Channels and chat shows on television things. Everyone is rarely calling on the government to say the lets, lets just bring it to an end for us. Capitulation from can just finish it as a group called stop. You. The more from the former advisor mentally seizures, the Foreign Policy g, 5 years, one. Often this break, the, i look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. A robot must obey the orders given by human beings except were so shorter is that conflict with the 1st law show your mind, anticipation. We should be very careful about visual intelligence at the point, obviously is to place a trust rather than to the area. I mean, with the Artificial Intelligence we have so many with him in the most protects his phone existence was alexis the welcome back to going undergrad. Im still here without us to correct former british diplomats and founder and current director of the baby based conflicts for him. Lets see what we were talking. I think you were mentioning zillows me in the 1st hop i want to get onto is conflict perhaps in care of with the nazis that ill give you a uh, but i was gonna mention biting since we were talking about him and he was on the loan with zalinski more to come from the impeachment of joe biden, media narrative in the United States. And i dont know how well it will be a ripple in western europe, which is also funding this conflict of the bible by an impeachment that if it is reported daily on Us Television could make a difference. The problem is, i mean the, the Democratic Party is in the isnt panic at the moment. Not just because of the that is going to be extremely damaging they expect, because its increasing the obvious to them that hes not a credible candidate, a tool. And the, you know, the larger majority of, of the democratic supporters dont want to see him as a candidate presidency. But theres no alternative. They havent got a, you know, sort of standing ready. But the frames are in some type of agree. Yes, and thats why its going to, i think, impel the democratic come the dnc, the national council, who won. I seem to get away from ukraine for the rest of the election to concentrate some other issues. I mean, obviously they kind of concentrate and the ones that they say will help like abortion policy, but mostly, you know, and for them. And the other thing very warning is that the economy is coming bad and they is out as being can prove people, you know, information is going down from 93 percent. Well, if you believe that in the old saying, i bought a bridge to sell you, its not done like that is that the fate goes to be manufactured and being sort of massage to keep it down by trying to supply oil from the strategic cause of kept the Oil Price Stock put pressure on you said the u. S. Has 20 days from this through to anybody. Thats right. Go. So theyve got less space. They have to use, they have to use a strategic cause of to run the country. It would run out in 20 days. So i mean, the, i mean, theres a lot of stress on the Democratic Party and they dont really know how to do it. And, and equally, they all, you know, there are forces that the, the, the, the state to the Security State is determined to stop trump from ever being allowed to be president of the game. And yet he is far away. The most popular leader in the republic, the others that was sort of put off as you know, was a few like if he didnt stop, i mean a trading miles behind the authorities thinking to jail him. Cool was here so well, at least to get a guilty died and then probably drill. And then you go to hell. So the wild card, those kennedy whos very popular and is a sort of the sort of cross Party Support taking place. I mean, so many of the trauma people support a candidate for hes gonna be talking truth. I mean, he is very, a very much knowledge for the fact that he has the person who actually says it has it is. And so can sort of intersect between parties between crosses, between left and right its, its a sort of new phenomena taking shape in the United States. The democrats are also very frightened about that. Yeah, i understand that kennedy has no uh, security detail as biters decision and there was some kind of attack. So between the attempt to jail a jump and that perhaps as, as a nation on a land from a family who is famous for assessing nations and worrying democracy over there. But yeah, back to the village, the, the baffle in key. Yeah. Because of the nature ation media, the battle is well booting is over because as a cool in the offering and use of being writing however that there is a battle between the i suppose, uncle nazis and the nationally. And that, that side of uh, the Ukrainian Government in kiev. So could that explode at any moment . Yes. Any time that can explode because its become, you know, increasingly obvious to the minute. The date, the letter of the primrose, paul, you know, theyd be sending, you know, a young man, a new law offices. I dont care who they are doing, like sending mail to that dest, unnecessarily, from the political military game. So theres increasing dissatisfaction in the military, of course propaganda or as pride to keep in. So this campaign during this period, but thats so much the case because the question keeps coming up for them. Okay. You know, you say youre going to start again next year. Why is it going to be any different next year from this year and whats gonna happen this window . Do you have any idea about that . So the, the, the ultra nationalists are very much on the defense. And im trying to keep everything going by really, by strong law tactics more than anything else. And, you know, just try a propaganda. But the tensions are enormous. And of course, the people are really because theres been less conscription where, you know, theyve had that brothers and fathers and things just sort of rounded up people and thrown in a truck to go to the front to be killed. I mean, theres a lot of that, but theres no, theres no structures for Popular Defense is whole being crushed. I mean, they, it does when the popular rising, a con happens. So its got to be a sort of internal fight at the top level of the regime to sol, solved. And you know, it may happen, and im sure the russians are watching very, very close gain low for information. Then we do about, you know, these tension. So know if them maturing, cause i authorized this, i mean, put it in has been very catholic. He hasnt wanted, as you know, you told me earlier. Why was that . Why was there an actual skill going still operation and many people say, well, why of a bridge is still operation will put him as old as tried to do a process of uh, you know, not completely devastating. The concrete not leaving in like uh, you know, uh the school district. Its like, youre ok no. And so, i mean, hes always done it sort of ink or mentally. Hes always had his eye on the politics, the global well politics, the brakes generally the politics trying to judge when is the right moment that the ukrainian system is completely exhausted. And then maybe to contemplate a push to give a, to put it at the end of the end of this process. I think, you know, thats probably what we may see and offensive, and i would think he would probably go on as far as a need for the new problem. Probably would hold that well, put him sort of re, sort of political tailings in the west and in europe. I mean, obviously, you know, youre just starting the russians. The russians may have a handle, the g o u, or whatever have a handling will be in the circle. Theyre in care of it, show the ca, did the accurately predict the move. Finally, to save the people who dont pass by persians, troops, and you know, youre being close to the Intelligence Services in britain for decades. Do you think . Not think that the british specific day, i suppose i have uh, some kind of idea about this uh at the moment 5, typically a rupture in cab destroying of the british war a sort of in the british conflict games and new great of the people on the ground americans on the ground, new kids, and i mean, oh, most certainly inside and attached to the ministry. The know whats going on with that information gets up the treat to the political Decision Maker is a, is there a move in, in, in d . I know it was an a great intelligence qu by a c i a then, because it was, it was quite a, it was quite obvious what was, what was happening. I mean, who to never went in to ukraine with the intention of us, of military victory. He went to just show us a show a holes to show. He was serious about negotiation. Well, that didnt happen. I didnt want to, so we have to mobilize and they have to regroup. And now they already there were any indeed for well with the whole of nature, if necessary. Theyd be preparing enormously. Theyll have at the end of the sort of reorganization allow me in about 1200000 really big. I mean, were talking serious numbers. I mean, they to come do nothing against us most think. Okay, im afraid im afraid today wasnt that obvious to some of our Pretty Amazing guests that weve had on this program in the run up to the s m. O beginning is the russians call it there. Is another demand for those troops have been sitting on the boat for about 9 months, right . Up on the border as a signal that it was an attack on the bus as i had made, you know, they would come and then we had 4 days in the lead up to the thing where there was Something Like 20 fold increase in the shelling of dung boss and you not to be honest. And also i knew i cant say exactly how, but i knew that the russians that got the full plans for the offensive against on the exc. And nancy given to the bias also as best. So they knew it had to add to stopped in february and they knew they have to act. They have to full story a just to and finally, because we have, we could be talking for hours, of course, as usual, a zalinski in the economist curtailing a, do you grain with her on the war. And then this warning to the capitals of western europe, including where you are rome, i suppose there is no way of predicting other millions of ukrainian refugees in European Countries would react to the country being abandoned. If youre not with ukraine, you are with russia. What sort of threats i mean is talking about Nuclear Weapons in new data. So im going to rush here at the Un General Assembly rather bizarrely that with the on this if there is a ton in washington, what are these millions of refugees in western european capitals . Whats the threatening exactly . Look when he says the war is going on. I mean, the reality is the test united said the states just simply said, no more money, no more weapons, april a widow, what and very would be copays suggesting the sleeper cells, spelling action. I mean, you know, theres been so much exaggeration. Uh, there may be 102. We sold the water one or 2 in russia. I mean, one of them killed a friend of mine diarrhea to gain. She was assassinated by a state police, so the car turned into a fumble. She was a very, very intelligent young woman. Im just post assessment. Its like theres no doubt they keep track this. Im not sure how capable of doing it, but certainly once the money and the weapons go, it will be a game changer. They content, they come, i mean the idea is that they can just go all that it can go on. So yes, i how please walk through you because i say your contracts go to ikea or an order or a new ami. Its not like stuff is, you know, and there are lots demand and then you know, even if you get some 16 year old, so 60 arrows. I mean theyre on trade. They have no motivation. I think a lot of the ukrainians actually with us that theyre all in new york or titles of all people would love to get back to normal. Just go back to normal life to see that relative some to you know, celebrate christmas and so used to. So i dont think will be, i dont think well be in a, in a crate to turn against your up. Or there may be one or 2. I think europe is much more worried about others. I mean, weve seen most been happening in line producer with huge influx of a young man from africa and who, you know, i dont know what the future is in europe, but its not going to be. Its not going to be easily settle this problem. Why dont i guess the way we all have to come on and told us that had of course i was just correctly. Exactly. That was a good. Thank you. Thanks to you have thats it for the show. Will be back on saturday with a brand new episode of on the ground. But until then keep in touch, why will i social media . If its not sense, it didnt your country and had to watch. I dont going. Undergoing tv on rumble. Dont com to watch. New and old episodes of going underground sees that day the the, [000 00 00;00] the, the jurors military leaders declare a new era in the concrete history after president my call in the notes is the plum withdrawal of french troops from the west african nation. 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