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RT News September 28, 2022

Approved in the west. In general, the western version of democracy has deteriorated into a dictate of a liberal minority over conservative majority the loudest critics of reverence in the dumbass, laportia, and coastal regions were at one time at the forefront to support the cause of his independence. No referendums were held in kosovo toll and Video Evidence evidence emerges, showing whats been described as unprecedented damage to the north stream Pipeline System. With swedish and danish, all authorities claim in the leagues could be an act of sabotage with committee alive from a studio here in moscow, youre watching r t. My name is peter scott with the latest news this wednesday morning. And we kick off this morning with the latest on the referendums in the dumbass republics of done yet scandalous guns. And sure the regions is up roger and get a song where locals gave their final se, leaving ukraine and joining russia ah. With ballots counted in all 4 regions after 5 days of votes in the majority are in favor of potential unification with moscow. 8 years ago, the done yes and no guns. Republic split from ukraine, undeclared, themselves, independence, lillia, we heard from locals about what they make of possibly uniting with moscow. You certainly will. No one forces us to come. You can see yourself people coming voluntarily. Im so happy im about to cry. You block. People crying with joy, there were people from the russian control territories in ukraine for said, there has finally come. Im so glad i lived to see of this day. Im really happy. Hes come a long way and ive been waiting for it for ages. Final results in the near republic indicate thats around 9 feet. 9 percent of people voted for joining russia with the guns republic. Sure. In the 98 percent voted in favor in the regions is up here and here on the polling results show 93 and 87 percent respectively voting in favor of joining russia. Now, while the referendum has been, why the condemned the shop by many nations millions, turned out in the republics on regions to have a say on the future for the highest turnouts. And the polls was in the done yet republic were over. 2000000 people cast the vote. Over 1600000 people voted in the la guns republic quality, both get a phone and up our osha over a 1000000 in total went to the polls. Are eager to don census. This reports from the guns for public rights after the referendums results. Frankly, it has been an emotional day for everyone here in the republic. And finally, the results they have come and more than 98 percent of people here have chosen to say yes to russia and no to ukraine. The results were announced by the head of the august peoples republic learn it, positioning himself. Now we did have a chance to talk to the head of the republic himself, and we asked him about what emotions he feels right now that everything has been resolved. And whats next for the republic. Today we have reached our ultimate goal. Weve achieved what we all wanted so much. I think that the president of the Russian Federation and the entire russian nation should make the decision and accept us into the Russian Federation. We will work for the good of our great country, which is why all this began the future of which everything began back in 2014. He has reveal that next week already he will be traveling to russia to see of larimer potent, the president of course, and well to discuss the results of the referendum, obviously, bidding on behalf of all the of more than a 1000000 people here who showed up to the polling stations, well tooth, so that russia recognizes their choice. And again, this choice wasnt an easy one, not in terms of as to where their hearts were, but rather keep did everything in its power to intimidate the people here into staying home and to not voting. It has been shelling will against peoples republic relentlessly. In the past 5 days, people had to interrupt the voting and go to and go hide and bomb shelters. Just to stay safe, just to keep on going with their daily lives and no matter what they still showed up, they showed up in hundreds of thousands. Again, the attendance is also very, very close to a 100 percent. And so this is what they did. This is the what they did despite the shelling, despite everything being against their odds. Now the authorities here, of course, the try to make it easier and as safe as possible for the people here. For example, for the, for, for days there were no stationary polling stations, the one that were used to instead, buses were taking members of the Election Committee door to door almost. Or if they were visiting different neighborhoods and regions and remote villages. So that people had, could have a chance to vote and to have their say without attracting and without participating in large crowds of people which could attract yet another attacks from are the key of authorities from the cave military, which could be targeted by, well, terrorists, by diversion groups, but all this bloodshed, all this violence spearheaded by cave, it failed to crush the spirits of the locals. Here we talked to some of them and they shared what this moment means for them yet to move in them. But i think the referendum was more than successful and completely for joan in russia. I voted, was daily thought, weve been eagerly waiting for this for the 8 years weve had war here in the don bus. So i knew that was theres a desire to see changes to have stability certainty in your life, a desire to just live a peaceful life and see your parents come and care free. But earlier we spoke to the president of the Brakes International for him who was part of the International Monitoring team in don bus. And she says the mood of people there seems to contradict the western narrative. I found later people about home we were hearing that they are and there are gunpoint or theyre having go controlled by that ation. I really found that they are very 3. They are participating in dod effingham, like gay celebration and festival. And li, really giving message to the world that there is no fear, nor any pressure, and they are taking their own right. When they sion garmin did not participate, they only provided logistic and infrastructure to the i long along the lines and i dont sick people to conduct the voting. When you come to dial grounds, then you will understand what is that he, anybody from my United Nation office, you can not say every thing. So this is not what they were in. International media is going on. I mean, most of the time they are the fake news during last 9 months we observed that so many fake news circulated to there are by the rest and media to we stand were pulled, went well, and surprisingly the votes was the key item for discussion of the Un Security Council meeting where the u. S. U. K, in the western countries, denied the legitimacy of the referendum forcing bushes, ambassador to remind the west of its own history with break way regions. But in woods, the direct expression of citizens will, has long ceased to be an indicator of a democratic choice. Recognition as such takes place only if approved in the west. In general, the western version of democracy has deteriorated into a dictate of a liberal minority over a conservative majority of the doubt. As critics of reference in the dumbass, laportia and curse on regions were at one time at the forefront of support for cosellos independence. No referendums were held in kosovo tow. Only a declaration of independence adopted by the provisional self governing body in excess of its powers. But back then it was enough for the west to recognise castillos independence. Well, the Un Security Council, the 15 member body that leads the United Nations, convened the meeting today in the Security Council chamber. Now, immediately russia spoke up at the beginning of the meeting, making clear that they objected to the fact that vladimir zalinski, the ukrainian president , was given a platform to speak via video link to the Un Security Council meeting. They said clearly that this was simply turning the Un Security Council chamber into a place to put on political shows to serve a geopolitical agenda. It did not fit with the rules of the un. Russia made clear their objections. Then we heard from rosemary decarlo, the under secretary, we heard from zalinski who then addresses the video link. And then when members of the Security Council spoke, it was very clear that there were differences among the major countries. Now we heard from both russia and the United States, both permanent members of the Security Council here is the clear differences between the 2. We know the outcomes of these sham referenda were predetermine in moscow. They in no way represent a legitimate expression of the will of the ukrainian people. Id like to say that the referendums were conducted transparently upholding old electro norms. More than 100 independent International Observers from 40 countries observed the referendum. They gave their opinions to the media, but unfortunately, you wont have this in western media story that might be carried out with weapons provided by the United States. This is what anthony blanket said shortly before the Un Security Council meeting. Will the us still allow ukrainian troops to use us weaponry to defend against russians in those territories, no matter what the outcome of these referendums and this, these possible annexations ukraine has the absolute right to defend itself throughout its territory, including to take back the territory that has been illegally seized one way or another by russia. Now, the nato chief also made clear that while nato countries are supplying weapons to the government that they do not consider nato to be part of the ongoing conflict. They consider this to be a fight between ukraine and russia as well. Nato is supportive of ukraine. They are not directly involved. Regardless, that was the context in which the Un Security Council meeting took place. Now, the Un Security Council of task with making sure world peace continues and deescalate and conflicts. But it seems like, as russia pointed out, the Un Security Council was just used as a platform for grant standing, just as a place to put on political shows to demonize russia when real danger to world peace and the possibility of this conflict escalating to much Greater Heights are hanging over our heads as a result of the response of the United States and its allies to the referendum. Lets cross live now to john jordan political analysts. John, thanks for taking the time to join us today on our t. Good to be here. No, now these referendums have concluded, what do you think next for these regions . Well, sadly, this is all going to be decided on the battlefield. I do agree with the Russian Ambassador in one respect is that is that the un is a place for grandstanding thats kind of what its been more than anything else for so long and so i have a good, some rushes turn in the hot seat. Americas been in the huts itself a few times there, but sadly, this is going to be resolved militarily on the ground. This is going to be decided by arms and i fear where this can go. Well, just to pick you up on, on the un while you mentioned debts, john, other, he did say that many of the most vocal western critics of these reference are from those who supported the independence of kosovo. Maam, do you think these cases are so different . Weve seen some of double standards here and un no, i mean thats a, thats the un is fraught with double standards. Its kind of always been that way. I dont know how you get that many countries together to agree on anything. Everybodys pretty much pursuing their own agenda and then uses the un is the stage to be the good guy. So, but yeah, that is a great analogy in the sense that basically might makes, right . And whoever wins the argument gets to declare the legitimate outcome. And that was such as the case impossible to but unfortunately this is not what goes on at the un really isnt going to matter at the end of the day, be resolved voluntarily between ukraine and the forces of the Russian Federation. Ready so just to get this to you, do see this as an escalation. If russia were to recognize these territories as part of its own territory. I mean, obviously some of the international community, ive described it many and i to describe the machines, i will not recognize the results. Its really hard to, to. So square the 6 square circle, isnt it john . I mean, it looks like hes going to be portraits a completion. Yeah, thats the way it is. What it with ukraine has taken out a maximum list position and insisting that all of formerly was ukraine will be restored to ukrainian rule including crimea. That is clearly an obviously unacceptable to the Russian Federation, at the same time, the ukrainians are not going to accept any sort of negotiated settlement where some of the, the territory of either outside outside of the on boss is going to be seated to russia. So this is going to, i dont see a way out of this, and i think that this will be seen. It really isnt an escalation escalation so much as thinking a maximum negotiating position as id hoped to see it. But it is literally right now, there is no climb down or pass out of this for either side. No, especially because prisons. Lensky also said that if these 30 is worth to secede for russia, and talks would be off the table. Yeah, i mean, theres no diplomatic track right now. Both sides are irretrievably dugan, for their own domestic political reasons. And ukraine feels that they can be successful in this. And theres no political appetite in ukraine right now for any sort of negotiation. If there is, it may be, you know, there is, theres of the ukrainians. Would probably better swallow seating. Some territory intern . Yes. Go guns. More so than apple reserve her son. But theres no appetite that right now at all. No, that the certainly isnt jona. Im going to want one final question. Now you have said that many citizens, the fines that helped organize these referendums, could face up to 5 years in jail and, and there were also reports of ukrainians. Special forces also em, catherine collaborates, is all they call, collaborates is in the cock of region. Those who cooperated with the russian forces. And from there you can certainly see, you know, why they might do that because it, from the ukraine point of view, its treason to things for the right. You know, i dont think theres a, you know, i hate to see rights and wrongs why. Why did this . Because this is just such an unfortunate situation. Situation of, to people that are in many ways and historically brothers going out in this way. But theyre, the temperature certainly hot and there is an appetite for retribution in the ukraine right now. For anybody thats ating, any the rush of the forces in the Russian Federation. And its, its a sad as it can be. But thats how the ukranian see it. And i, and sadly it history tells us time and time again that might makes right, the winners are the ones to get to write history. And so well have to see who that is in miss and d. Indeed we will. John is certainly a very complex situation. We could discuss it for hours and days to come by. Im afraid we run out of time. Dont go to political unless thank you very much for your time today, your insights a journalist and i to this jim that figure chambers says the people of don boss have wanted to become part of russia for a long time. One of the biggest misconceptions in the world, whether were talking about crimea or now about done, but uh, but oh, sure. What is that . This is all, some kind of posturing, uprooting agenda to creep in an annex territory and take it over. And what were dealing with is really quite the opposite, was a situation where people really bag of putin and brush it to get militarily involved for a long time. And only after diplomatic methods were exhausted. Did that actually happen . I think its very clear to everybody that despite this influx of american artillery, that has really done nothing but terrorized civilian in don about the consensus has always been anybody you spoke to . Well, yes, were done yet peoples republic, but we want to join russia. Everybody wants to join russia, this was just, this is known. Anybody walking on the street to tell you this . Ok. So the idea that this is some sort of like sinister plot and theyre drinking, i mean its laughable. Totally loud. Of course, as always, will keep you updated all the latest on the events in the dawn bus are public, and those are the regions and what the future holds for them. A on the water explosions that have caused leaks in the north stream Pipeline System could be an active sabotage with us. According to the swedish Prime Minister, who commented on the damage to the pipelines which resulted in a very sharp dropping pressure the order. We have swedish intelligence. But we have also received information and our contacts with denmark. And based on this, concluded that this is probably a deliberate act. It is probably a matter of sabotage. Or you can see now is video footage from the location of one of the leaks and you can see gas pouring into the baltic sea, the bubbling up on it from one of the 3 separate leaks on the north stream one and 2 pipelines. The authorities in germany, denmark and sweden have all begun investigations. The former polish defense minister pointed his finger to the us for those explosions while the same time, the polish Prime Minister has been russia for the leaks in the north stream pipeline. The company has called the situation unprecedented thing. The reason the Pipeline System has developed problems remains unclear at this stage, but nothing has been rolled out. Yes. And this is very concerning news. Its true that were talking about some kind of damage to the pipeline in denmark, economic zone. Although the exact nature of the damage is yet to be determined, the pressure

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