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WPVI Inside Story February 7, 2016
Dwight evans isnt afraid of the gun lobby. Hell stand up to the special interests and join me in fighting to improve our city block by block. Harold, surprised to see kenney take sides here . Only the timing, because of when had happened with congressman fattah with his son being sentenced. I was surprised that the timing came as it did. But certainly, kenney had supported evans, evans has been a supporter of kenney, so its no surprise. Chaka fattah is very vulnerable. Hes gonna have a tough road being reelected, so only the timing surprised me. What do you think, guys . And obviously, we know the history with fattah supporting anthony williams, who ran for mayor and didnt do so well. This is hardly news. Right. I think it was expected that mayor kenney would endorse dwight evans. And it came and i agree with harold that the timing, perhaps, is probably the only asterisk on the endorsement. But otherwise, hardly news. And people dont think about the timing. Theyre gonna do what they want to do when they want to do it, how they want to do it. And of course you have to connect the dots. Again, dwight came out early for kenney. He helped him make a lot of inroads in the community. And so he went with kenney. Evans has been very strong in west oak lane, but hasnt done so well running citywide, for instance, running for mayor. What does he need to do differently if hes gonna be able to at least take the primary, not only the general election . Hes had a good run, though not literally speaking in running for office, but supporting tom wolf before anybody supported tom wolf coming out for, as we talked right now, for thencandidate jim kenney. Hes been someone whos been on a roll. And i think hes gonna be very formidable as the theres other candidates running dan muroff is one of them, as well, whos very formidable that will narrow down. If that narrows down and evans continues to show the money lead, then its gonna be difficult. Yeah, i think he has a war chest. Hell have all the major endorsements. But i think it will be a mistake to count out congressman fattah. Definitely not, especially in the primary. I would still think that dwight evans will be the underdog in that card. Iowa and New Hampshire you want to do it . Come on. Come on. If you say so. All right, so this week had all the National Stuff going on. Were gonna focus on some of the local stories that came out of this. Rick santorum, who won the Iowa Caucuses just four years ago, ends his president ial campaign. He endorses marco rubio. You see there Chris Christie and donald trump there. Another thing that came out senator pat toomey, who could be in a battle to retain his seat in the senate, also fell behind rubio for the gop nomination. Now, rubio is the best thirdplace finisher in the history of american politics. But for one thing, the santorum and toomey thing, do you think its gonna help rubio in the long run . Absolutely in pennsylvania. In pennsylvania, thats what it looks like right now. You never know. Its still early. You know, youre still gonna have folks dropping out those type of things. Rick santorum was popular four years ago and stuff. He had name recognition. He was in the senate or whatever. Hes not that anymore. Theres new players. And then he had to coalesce so he can still keep his name out there, so he went with toomey to do their thing. And thats whats going on. I think renees right. In 2012, Rick Santorum was the fresh face of the ideological candidate that the right wing of the Republican Party looked for. Well, hes been upstaged by ted cruz, whos now the fresher, more of the ideological candidate for them. Having said that, for the establishment candidate, i think its coalescing in support of marco rubio. And one thing that the media has been hammering on, which is now coming true, is that nobody in congress likes ted cruz. Exactly. And ted cruz wears that as a badge of honor. He does. Zero senators. That is exactly what the right wing Republican Party wants to see that those who have been elected into congress have compromised the conservative movement. And ted cruz doesnt have a bet. Yeah, well, heres the thing that works well for marco rubio. You couldnt think of, for many ways, two very different people than Rick Santorum and pat toomey. They have the evangelical, social conservative side with Rick Santorum and you have the Business Club for growth tea party side with someone like pat toomey. And rubios clearly becoming, at least, today. Right. As that alternative that were looking for. Hes trying to bridge the gap. But what were gonna see in New Hampshire this coming week is, is there a governor out there whether it be christie, john kasich, jeb bush i think christie will be third among governors. Lets talk a little bit more about christie. He came in 10th in iowa, which is lower than some people who actually left the race. [ laughter ] but, you know, a lot of people would say iowas not so great of a fit. Harold, where do you think christie needs to place in New Hampshire to not get the, you know, chiming of people saying, you know what . Maybe we need to have him get out of the race so we can coalesce . I think he has to finish among the top four, and i think thats not very likely that hell do that. Iowa, he can sort of discount. He stopped campaigning in iowa. Iowas such an anomaly. I mean, in terms of that caucus and the way its conducted. So, he can be forgiven for his finish there. But hes not doing very well in New Hampshire. As you mentioned, jeff, john kasich has a great chance of being the governor that moves ahead. Even saying that, though, rubio is still the person who has the most attractive persona in terms of running a national campaign. I think Chris Christies running for a consolation prize now. If a republican president wins, get ready for attorney general Chris Christie. Thats right. If a democrat wins, get ready for bumper stickers that say christie 2020. [ laughs ] all right. Well, bottom line is he doesnt have the money. See, im thinking about you got to have the money to continue these races. Thats important no matter where he comes in. He still wont have enough money. And guess what happens after New Hampshire. Whats next . We have South Carolina. Those states are not boding well for the governors. Thats a good ted cruz state down there. Ted cruz states. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So, lets talk a little bit about the democrats, cause we have the Philadelphia Convention coming up in july. Were gonna host the democrats. Can any of you really foresee Bernie Sanders standing up there at the podium, accepting the nomination from the Democratic Party here in philadelphia . I cant. I watched the town hall meeting the other night. I watched the debate last night. And hillary is really on the top of her game right now. She did very well. You cant tell it by the sound bites that theyre doing on television because theyre not showing any of the Foreign Policy exchange, for example. And bernie was clearly out of his element. And, you know, i think when more americans see how far out of his element he is on issues besides the wall street money, theyre going to abandon him. Going to South Carolina next. We know that we have a large africanamerican electorate in South Carolina. They feel closer to Hillary Clinton, and i dont see anything that Bernie Sanders said or did thats going to bring that part of the electorate to his side. It was a battle, though, that debate, wasnt it . You cant win the democratic nominee without rallying and consolidating the africanamerican vote. Thats right. And in this case, what youll see is, as harold points out, once you go past New Hampshire, thats when the Bernie Sanders campaign will come to a halt, because South Carolina will reveal itself. And Hillary Clinton and also the Clinton Family have an almost historical institutional base of support with the africanamerican community, and i just dont see that advantage, sanders ever trumping off of that. It used to be more until obama came in, because they got very upset with the clintons when obama was in. So they didnt have all the support they had. Theyre just starting to get it back. Lets make that real clear. You have to really look at that. When you look at the leadership and you look at the money, hillary has it all. Bernie has a lot of the intensity of enthusiasm, especially among young democrats. But these arent the ones with the money, obviously. Theyre not the ones, frankly, that turn out to vote. But Bernie Sanders will get credit long after his Campaign Ends that, one, he shed light on something thats very important the income inequality in this country that is disenfranchising a large swath of our population. He has brought that into national attention. And more importantly, this smaller case, socialism. The word socialism is now part of a political discourse. You have to put the word democratic in front of it to make it seem palatable. Thats right. So the feel the Bern Movement will live longer than the campaign. Well, not only that. Hes giving hillary a run for her money. I mean, who thought he would come that close in iowa . Lets be clear here. So he is making a statement. And people are listening and paying attention because theyre tired of hillary somewhat, also. But bernie wont win nationally. Lets be clear. And heres the other thing, hes not even a democrat. Right. That is. I forgot about that. That point was made by hillary last night that he only recently became a democrat. Although, he tried to give his credentials in terms of his democratic alliances. I give bernie credit for bringing up the issue of campaign finance. Its an important issue. Hes pointing out how big money has infiltrated all of these races, you know, but nothing has been done about campaign finance. Hes been in congress for a number of years, hillarys been there, and nothing has been done. So hes made it a focal point. Lets see if his campaign can actually energize congress to do something about the amount of money that intrudes into these campaigns, president ial on down to city council. But his campaign has the passion, as jeff points out, and its very clear middle class is being screwed. Thats the message. Oh, yeah. Thats the message. And hes making hillary just in footballese positioning making her move left. The republicans move right, its making her move left. Is he making her better . I dont know, because what hes making is Michael Bloomberg more. Young hillary was Bernie Sanders. Ooh, thats a good point. Even more so. But whats amazing about this race to me, at least at this point, is that bernie is attracting young women. Here we have a woman who is at the point where she can make history in america, and, you know, a lot of young women are just disregarding that. Wow. Well, remember, a lot of people dont like hillary, either. Lets be honest about that. As far as getting 600some thousand dollars for making three speeches, you know, those type of things whats wrong with that . [ laughs ] i know i would love to do it. But they see her, like, being the richyrich, youre not gonna help the middle class, like you just said. Hey, real quick whos winning New Hampshire republican, democrat . Trump. Trump. Trump and bern. Trump and bern. Rubio. Rubio comes second. I think he could come in. Rubio could potentially surprise us. All right, lets move on. Montgomery county judge allows bill cosbys sex assault case to stand. The 78yearold looked frail and weak as his entourage helped him in and out of the norristown courthouse over the twoday hearing. Cosbys lawyers had argued a verbal agreement was made between the entertainer and former District Attorney bruce castor, promising cosby will be free of prosecution on the sex assault case if he spoke freely in a deposition during the civil case, which he did. Are you surprised that cosbys wellfunded lawyer team was unable to get a win on their side . Im not. No. There were two things. One, mr. Castor suggested that he would never prosecute, but then a 2005 press release said that, you know, all parties should be cautioned that he may change his mind. So you cant say never and then you can change your mind. Number two, mr. Castor suggested that he agreed to this nonprosecutorial agreement because he wanted to give the victim alleged victim the leg up so that mr. Cosby doesnt take the fifth. Well, in a civil case, unlike the criminal case, if you take the fifth, theres an adverse inference made against you. So that doesnt make legal sense. So from both sides, both of those points, i just thought it didnt have a lot of leg, the castor theory of nonprosecution agreement. Jeff . And, matt and thats why im gonna with ajay first as the lawyer as the nonlawyer, the impression is it wasnt put in writing. I always comes down to you made an agreement on the phone, you made an agreement verbally. Walter phillips, who was cosbys defense attorney, has since passed. And so theres no proof. Its not how. You can have a oral contract, but the point is there are a lot of holes here. Understood. Why wouldnt you do it in writing if its something that serious . Well, you know, and im not a lawyer, either, but from what i understand it, verbal or written, it was an agreement he could not make. How could he guarantee that more evidence would not come out in the future that would warrant bill cosby being indicted, charged, at least tried . And here he is, as a prosecutor, saying, well, thats not going to happen. Theres no way for him to know that. He never should have made any type of agreement. And im not a lawyer, either, and the bottom line is women are very passionate about this and something has to happen, and this will go to court, go to trial. Preliminary hearing in march, okay . Theyll see if theres enough evidence to hold him over for trial. Can you foresee this just being held over and the red tape and then cosby lawyers just extending things and it never really making trial anyway . I think itll be tough to prosecute just on the base of the evidence and how stale it has become and time has passed. I dont think its a cakewalk for d. A. Steele. Okay. Governor wolf will propose a new budget on tuesday. Even though the state doesnt even have a budget right now, the democrat will address the legislature and is proposing to add 200 million in Education Funding in the next fiscal year on top of the 377 million he wants in additional Education Funding for the current fiscal year. Yes, the budget has not been signed and it was due back on july 1, 2015. Is it good that Governor Wolf cannot take no for an answer, or is it bad that Governor Wolf cannot take no for an answer . Renee . Im so sick of Governor Wolf i dont know what to do. This is absolutely ridiculous. How can you get one budget and you dont have another budget already resolved . Theyre not even communicating. He has no relationships with folks on the other side of the aisle, his staff dont. Theyre not talking. Theyre not doing anything. Meanwhile, companies are losing out, theyre losing their staff, theyre closing, theyre not dealing with crisis centers. People really need help. The little bit of money he gave out is still no helping. The bottom line is we need a darn budget. [ laughs ] i wont disagree with that. You know, we need a budget. I think that, constitutionally, hes trying to do his duty. You know, we dont have a budget, but im constitutionally bound to look ahead and do what im supposed to do for the next year. But youre right. The problem here is that you have the republicans and the democratic governor not communicating at all. And at some point, you have to say, well, whats going to give . Whats gonna provide some movement in this . And he is the leader of the state, so theres more this is more on him than even on the Republican Leadership to find some way to move the ball here. Thank you, harold. Pensions. There has to be something thats given on the democratic side. Thats right. And wolf has been a little bit iffy on it. The democrats in the house and the senate, the house especially, have been unwilling to move. And i understand. Theyre representing constituency. Theyre representing unions, public employees, government workers. Thats an issue more than liquor reform liquor store reform state store reform that if they can get movement on that, i think thats where the Framework Agreement that was signed could come back together. Got to go to a break. Well be right back. Inside story is presented by temple university. Temple fuels students with academics and opportunities to take charge. Plugged into the city, powered by the world. Temple. Edu takecharge. Were back with inside story. Shock in the philadelphia Labor Community the united brotherhood of carpenters has ousted longtime local carpenters head edward coryell. The 17,000 local members now answer to a new merger of councils now based in edison, new jersey, not in philadelphia. Now, coryell had been in a longterm fight with the Pennsylvania Convention center, which locked the carpenters out back in 2014 in favor of working with John Dougherty and his electricians union. So, ajay, do you think that had anything to do with it . Well, you know, i can only repeat the good analysis that i read from John Dougherty. One, i think it was a misstep with the Convention Center. Two, i think they endorsed the wrong mayor, as well. Those were two. Anthony williams. Yep. Anthony williams. I think its becoming clearer that theres being a consolidation of power base here within the union and theyre uniting. And i would not be surprised if the carpenters and the electricians get even closer now as a result of this ouster. Which would be a good thing . It would be a good thing. For the Convention Center and elsewhere . A good thing for the labor movement. I dont know if itd be a good thing for everything else. Im glad you made that clear. Im glad you made that clear. Already such a strong power base. There is no counterpunch to the punch that is so strong that comes from the labor movement. Bad that theres a headquarters now in edison . Yeah, well, you know, this is sort of inside politics for the labor unions in philadelphia in terms of whats happening. Ed coryell has played a bad role in the city of philadelphia. Hes been a detriment to the city in terms of what happened at the Convention Center. On the other hand, you know, to see that John Dougherty is, you know, making his power in the city Even Stronger could be something that will be regretted by the city in the long term, to see that power solidified. And any one nonelected individual is somewhat frightening. Everyone always brings up mayor kenney because theyve been, you know, recently Political Partners here. Mmhmm. The other thing about coryell and i agree with my copanelists here, though he was on many boards and served the community very well. He was on the independence blue cross. He had done some number of things. And the carpenters were a very strong movement. Remember, whos a carpenter . None other than bob brady. Thats it. So, its sad in someways, too. Well, when you go against some folks politically, things will come back and bite you sooner or later. And thats reality and thats what happened. Theres a bit of a political and i wouldnt call it a fight just yet but theres a disagreement going on in north philadelphia. Temple wants a new home for the owls, even though the mayor is against it. Now, temples president says the school is Going Forward with plans to build a 100 million football stadium in north philadelphia. Some students and Community Members got together expressing concerns at a meeting with the student government. And you remember, mayor kenney said and this was before he was mayor back in december that he would prefer temple to continue playing at lincoln financial field, maybe get a better deal, and not build a new stadium there in that neighborhood. So, why arent the mayor and temple on the same page here . Well, temple has to do what temple has to do. Im an owl. I went to temple undergrad, as well as law school. And i cant remember a time when people had t on their faces until recently when the Football Program was so successful. The fact is whether you debate it one way or the other 100 million spent on a football stadium to make it like a penn state type of environment benefits in the long run Getting National attention, as well money that can also go into academics and making temple even a Stronger University nationally. So, Temple Community has to do what is best for temple and its alums and the future of temple university. But the bottom line, ajay, is that they got to get people to buy into this so this will really work for them. Have you seen how many people are Walking Around with the ts . I dont have one. But im just saying you have to communicate to the community and buy into this thing and make it work, not just to communicate to the mayor, those folks. So, lets sit down and talk about this and make this thing work so theyre more unified instead of all over the place. Thats how im seeing it. I have to disrespectfully disagree with you, ajay. It almost sounds like youre saying, if they build it, they will come, and thats not necessarily true with bigtime college football. Anyone that knows me knows that im probably the biggest university of alabama football fan in. Uhoh. How did he get on this show . Youve had a good year. Weve had a very good year. I have the roll tide tag on the back of my car my new jersey tags. But look, you know, ive seen the stadiums with 100,000 people in them, and they have a very large fan base. You dont build that overnight. And they didnt build the stadiums first and then build the fan base, which is what temple is trying to do. Temple has been successful. I think theyll be even more successful. But i think it may be premature to spend that much money on a stadium when they still can get a better agreement as mayor kenney is proposing with the eagles to use the lincoln financial field. One person hasnt brought up yet, and we all know, is the City Council President , darrell clarke, who has come out, so far, against it to the point where you must and he represents that district, as well. And hes got to get those stakeholders lined up, and its going to take time. The other difficulties, its very hard to measure, ajay, the economic impact. Its not a quantitative measurement. Its a qualitative measurement of what temples been able to do in the community. And they have to continue to succeed. I said you got to get people to buy into it. You said that. [ laughs ] inside stories of the week coming right up. Inside story is presented by temple university. Temple fuels students with academics and opportunities to take charge. Plugged into the city, powered by the world. Temple. Edu takecharge. Inside stories of the week. We start with harold. Well, this is still black history month. I hope people will celebrate it, observe it. If they pick up their sunday inquirer, theyll see a column that i wrote urging people to celebrate black history by looking at events rather than people. If they do that, itll be easier to incorporate it into some of our Highschool History courses. Thanks, harold. Renee . Thats good, harold. Mine is 2016 is the 20th year of Online Education for drexel. They were like a pioneer in this, so thats a good thing. And theyve been, by world news, ranked one of the best providers in programs. And they have certificate programs. Then they also are ranked number eight as far as who they are and what they do as far as online. So if youre interested, check out drexel online. Thanks, renee. Ajay . Matt, two statistics jumped out at me. One, that 80 individuals collectively have more wealth than half of humanity. And two, that more than half of americans have less than 1,000 in their savings account. If you believe that Bernie Sanders feel the Bern Movement will not last beyond the campaign, even nonsocialists like me have noticed these alarming trends. Thanks, ajay. Jeff . My statistic is 43. 43 of americans right now identify themselves as independent. If we see the republicans with a ted cruz or a donald trump and the democrats with perhaps a Bernie Sanders get to the nomination or get close to the nomination, were gonna see someone perhaps by the name of Michael Bloomberg, former mayor of new york, get in the race. And heres why he could win different than a ross perot in 92 and John Anderson 1980 he will selffund and he has the right temperament. Watch out this race could get even more interesting. So says Jeff Jubelirer on this sunday in february of 2016. New hampshire primary on tuesday. We got Governor Wolfs speech his budget speech on tuesday. Were gonna have some stuff to talk about next week on inside story. Join us then, and join me monday morning on action news. We start at 4 30 a. M. Oh, my. See you later. Have a great sunday, everyone. Im nydia han along with gray hall. Coming up next on action news, a Philadelphia Police officer is dragged by a car during a traffic stop. Were live with the latest information. A dog attack sends a 14yearold girl to the hospital. Police are investigating. Super bowl 50 is finally here, were live in santa clara, california with a preview of the big game. Those stories and more next on action news. Good afternoon, it is sunday, february 7. Im nydia han along with gray hall. Heres some of the story following on action news. One suspect in in custody after a Philadelphia Police officer is dragged by a car during a traffic stop were live. Five people are forced out into the cold after an