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Numbers . What do they tell us . Well, actually clinton did go up in 92 16 points, and never trailed thereafter after the democratic convention. Heres basically what happened. Hillary clinton got about twice the bounce that donald trump did out of his convention. But then over the weekend, when we were in the field last weekend, we had the comments about the khan family, the muslim parents who lost their son, captain khan, in iraq. And that has roiled the political environment like nothing weve seen before. And that story would not die. So you take both of those events and i wont even get into the situation with russia and the emails and the state department, something that sam was talking about just before we went on air and hes just had a horrific week after he was one percentage point behind at the end of his convention. And what else does it tell you when you dig in . Its like a household divide. Where men are, where women are, where people are with college educations, without college educations. You imagine a lot of spouses just choosing to not talk about politics. Oh, well, i joke that democrats and republicans dont want to get married to each other, and youre right. In socialization now, you do have some of that consideration. But we could have the biggest im not predicting this could have the biggest gender divide with men supporting trump, women supporting clinton, that weve had since we began polling. And the differences are profound. We could talk one last point region. Trump sweeps the southwest and the northwest. White, workingclass voters. No college degrees. Highschool educations or less. 50,000 in income or less. She romps here in philly and the philly suburbs im glad youre all seated 6020. 6020 clinton over trump in the burbs. Were talking about a city which usually tends to go democratic. Guys, lets open this up and talk about the state, which will be hotly contested. As you look at these numbers, do you think that this is where were at, or with three months to go, these numbers could collapse at any time and they could be neck and neck . Or he could surge again . He would have a natural ability to attract veterans. And in the same space of two days, first he trashes a family whove made the ultimate sacrifice and then holds a purple heart up and talks about winning it on a much easier basis. Theres just nothing going on up here before it comes out here that would suggest to you that there are any filters. And people say, well, hes going to turn the corner. No, hes not. He cant turn the corner. He has no discipline. And i think he probably has he needs more help than whats inside of a campaign. Well, lets talk about turning the corners and get our two republicans on board. Lets run down the list, guys, of some of the stuff weve got. Weve got the khan family argument, russia in ukraine they wont go in. Theyre already there was the word. His talk on Nuclear Weapons why cant we use Nuclear Weapons . Talking about ejecting a baby from a gathering, and refusing to endorse mccain and ryan. This is all in the space of one week, which leaves a lot of republicans who have tried to say, ill disagree with him on issues but support our nominee were talking Chris Christie, pat toomey, any number of other people in this weird bind. Can they continue to do this dance where you say, i dont like what he said, but im sticking with the nominee . I think theres a political danger in being with trump, but i think theres something larger happening in the country around the world, quite frankly that is bigger than trump. I look at it in three buckets. One, there is the antihillary bucket, which is no matter what she does, shes corrupt. Only thing shes fit to serve is a prison term. Those people. Second is the bucket of antiestablishment. Those are the who want plumbers to fly commercial airlines. Why . Because commercial pilots are establishment, and lets give plumbers a chance with flying. And the third are the protrump people. Those are the people that were focusing on. They hark back to an old america. Theyre nostalgic. Theyre inclusive. They dont want to be they see both from a legitimate and irrational fears and anxiety about loss of jobs from immigrants, Illegal Immigrants, potential terrorists coming in through those Illegal Immigrants or otherwise porous borders. There are both legitimate fears, and thats what were not convinced about. We dont know where these polls and the differences are because that bucket could expand for legitimate and rational reasons beyond they will look beyond trump and what nonsense he is because they need something other than hillary. Thats the concern here. I think thats a really good point. Were looking at these two candidates. We should be looking at the electorate. I think thats what youre saying. I know you want to get in on this. Look, i see it differently. I dont think he can expand his support among the white, bluecollar workers anymore. To win a president ial election, youve got to win independent voters. Youve got to cross the party aisle and go into the other partys camp. You got to win places in this state like the philadelphia suburbs. Or in cleveland or in ohio, in the columbus area. Or in florida, in the i4 corridor. Although barack obama didnt do that in his reelection, right . It was a base election. No, he won those areas. Of course he did. No, but he didnt he very clearly, he did not make a pitch for the other side. Well, i agree with that. I do agree with that. He wanted to get his base out. I think the point with donald trump is he is losing because of donald trump. We agree. Theres absolutely nothing Hillary Clinton did at her convention to propel herself beyond him. These are all selfinflicted wounds, and he shows a capacity of a breeder reactor. Every time the camera, turns on, someone asks him a question, you are guaranteed that he will Say Something that will hurt his own cause. And for people waiting for a pivot, i think sam said this its not coming. The capacity is not there. So then the question becomes the pivot among politicians. Weve seen a couple of things. Weve seen some republicans, a top advisor to Chris Christie come out and say meg whitman im not only not voting for him, i am voting for hillary. But we also see a number of republicans, like charlie dent, who made news this week, saying, i am not going to vote for trump, but hes also not gonna vote for hillary. Theres this weird movement of, well, what are they gonna do . Are they just gonna show up and vote downticket . Or stay away from the polls . What is coming from this . I think for the gop, post 2012, keep in mind, i mean, youre the pollster, but 1980, Ronald Reagan wins with 57 of the white vote. He walks into the oval office. In 2012, mitt romney gets 59 of the white vote and loses to barack obama decisively. Demographic changes. So post 2012, the gop mindset was we need to have a bigger umbrella, larger tent. We need to be more inclusive. Guess what . Donald trump unwound all of that. And now there is gop soul the very soul of the party is at stake right now. Could he still win . This week, we found out people still sent him enough money to close the fundraising gap with clinton. So there are a lot of people out there, even with what the polls are saying, who are supporting him in this state, which is a battleground state. As much as were saying the wheels are coming off, could we be sitting there on november 9th saying, but he pulled it out . There are things that could change that could really undermine hillarys campaign. If there was a terrorist attack and the country looked unprepared or inadequately able to deal with this and it was just as horrible as San Bernardino or orlando, that could be a big problem. We have the two most unpopular candidates seeking the presidency in modern history. So more voters are telling us im voting against the other partys candidate more than im voting in favor of my own. Well, i think gary johnson and bill weld, if you saw the cnn town hall meeting, there was sort of, i dont know, a goofiness to them in some ways. But they do provide a place for rockefeller republicans, if there still is such a thing, on the east coast. Or bill scranton republicans. Or bill scranton republicans to make enough republicans move away from trump. Lets talk a little bit about another race thats gonna be big, which is toomey mcginty. Also, you had some polling that was on top of that, and it shows that is actually incredibly close. Tell us about it. Yeah, i think the way to think of this race is the better Hillary Clinton does, you have a downballot effect. Its called coattails. We have seen a significant decline in ticket splitting. When Ronald Reagan was reelected in 84, one out of every two of us split our ticket, voting for the president in one party, and what, a member of congress from another. You know what it was four years ago . One in five. So if you look at the polls, the polls that have secretary clinton up 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, mcginty is up. The polls that show the race three, four, five, shes trailing. So i think thats probably the biggest factor in the outcome of the senate race in our state. Theyre trying to run two different campaigns. Shes saying she wants to talk about economics. Hes saying he wants to talk about security. Hes got the bloomberg endorsement, the fop endorsement. Which one of those is the more Winning Campaign three months out with this so close . That depends on whats going on two weeks before the election, i suppose. But, you know, 1 annual growth rate in the nations gdp, which is what the last quarter extrapolates to, spells trouble for the democrats across the board. And i think Bloomberg Bloomberg reminded us, if you ask me, that we can split our ticket. Because not a couple of days ago, hes on National Television at a convention supporting hillary, and then a couple days later is out for pat toomey. I dont know how significant bloombergs endorsement is in pennsylvania. Not sure how many people know who bloomberg is. People who like billionaires know who he is. But the message was very clear, that, you know, there are people who this is how you do it. You can go here for the presidency and here for the senate. And i think sam makes a very important point, because when you take that bloomberg endorsement and also you have mcginty with the barnyard epithet that she launched at toomey, she looked absolutely trumplike. And thats the sort of thing, to go back to all the discussion about the first wolf budget, where she was the one who was pretty caustic, who wound up causing problems. She wound up leaving her job. Thats the sort of thing the burden, of course, is on toomey to make this point while hes dragging this anchor of trump along. And thats why i think he and others are gonna be distancing themselves from trump. He must. Its their only hope. Lets talk about Something Else that came out of the convention. The protest was about a number of things. One of the areas of protest was over the donor list. Tell us whos paying for all of this. Weve learned some of the names, but the democrats said, look, were entitled to be able to release this after the convention. And a lot of people thought, as soon as it was over, theyd get those names out, be done with it. They still have not released that list. And now questions are being raised about the judge whos been over whether or not they had to in connections to the democratic party. My question is more process. Shes got a high poll rating. Get those numbers out now. Dont do it 60 days from now when you dont know where she could be in the polls or what people could be talking about. Why hold on to it . Youre presuming theyre gonna come out at all. Well, they have to release them within 60 days of the convention. 60 days to the fec. But i think part of the problem is i suspect they didnt raise as much money as they needed to. And i think theres money to it that still has to be raised. Because i know governor rendell was working the phones like a madman. Everybody i see in town tells me they got a phone call. Did you get a call . Ah, ajay got a call. Im sure ajay got a call. [ laughter ] i think sunshine is the best disinfectant, and if they dont release it, assange or wikileaks will release it. I mean, we learned that lesson now. But i dont think i agree with sam. I dont think theres anything that theyre hiding. I think theyre just trying to get their act together, still trying to collect more money. There may be a spillover to the city, that the city may have financial obligations that it wasnt counting on because the party didnt fulfill it. Do you think the voters really care about this . No. I mean, she raises a great point. We need to, you know, put pedal to the metal, but i dont think those of us who read the inquirer like to read stories about this. Ajay raised a really interesting point, that we ought to just take hold of for a moment. What happens, as we get closer to the election, if suddenly there is a tranche of emails that comes at us . And as sam mentioned some time ago maybe off camera, what happens if some of those deleted emails make their way in . And suddenly there is that connection between what she did as secretary of state and what happened at the foundation. Now the question is will it hurt her or will it help the downticket republican side . Because quite frankly, i dont know that he can be helped. But heres my question on that, when it comes to emails. People have been hearing about emails with her for quite some time. More damning are just more damning emails. To a certain extent, would these emails have to rise to a certain level to not just be more of the same . No, i think these emails were talking about are the ones that shes already read and determined were private and personal. This is about yoga and weddings and babies. If it turns out that its about the foundation and the state department, that is some severe lying to the congress, because they didnt turn those emails over. You make a good point, but remember, this race tightened up two weeks ago largely because of one guy, the fbi director, james comey, who called her use of these emails careless and reckless. No indictment. Boy, she plummeted. He convicted without indicting. I mean, Chris Christie at the Republican Convention i wont go there. All right, well, i do have to go here and take a commercial break. Well come right back to more inside story. Inside story is presented by temple university. Remarkable change isnt easy, but for those who take charge, it comes naturally. Explore temples impact. Visit temple. Edu impact. Its a Pretty Simple question is pat toomeys agenda your agenda . Toomey voted seven times to defund planned parenthood. He even tried to shut down the federal government in order to eliminate funding for planned parenthood. And toomeys against a womans right to choose and supports overturning roe v. Wade which would allow states to criminalize abortion. Pat toomey hes focused on his own agenda, not us. Majority forward is responsible for the content of this advertising. Welcome back to inside story. Im tamala edwards. Lets turn and talk some very local subjects. Monsignor william lynn weve seen this drama unfold since 2012, where he was convicted for essentially not being involved in child sex abuse, but moving priests around, not doing enough to stop it. He got a threeyear sentence. At this point, hes served 33 months of it and 18 months of house arrest. The courts have been back and forth on this, saying essentially they didnt like how the case was tried, saying he gets out. There were just three months left on that sentence. Seth williams saying saying he will be trying him for a third time, that he wants the conviction and wants it to stand for the families. Whos right in this . Some people would say hes pretty much served his sentence. Let it go. Other people say, fine, make the point. Whos right . It depends. I heard at least i read that the defense counsel for monsignor considered this back and forth a rollercoaster ride. Can you imagine the victims, what kind of rollercoaster ride that they lived, that theyre living . So for the taxpayers, perhaps its just a point that somebodys making for those who were victimized, especially by somebody who had the cloak of authority, cloak of trust. I think its deeper than that. I would think that their point matters more than what we think. I think this was also a case of institutional failure on the part of the archdiocese, which moved many priests who were allegedly engaged in sexualpredator activities in the church and relocated them to other parishes. And that went on for quite a while. Lynn may or may not have been responsible for doing that, but there were plenty of more senior priests in the system, in the archdiocesan system, who were responsible for that. And i think this is about that responsibility. This is not about a predator. This is not william lynn. This is william lynn, an executive in the church, who failed the families of the archdiocese by protecting their children. Well, the other question is do we think williams will get the conviction and prevail . Will it have been worth it in that way . Well, so, lynn had gone away for 33 months, right . The conviction against the institution did come. And the church has been hard at work trying to fix what was wrong. I think at this point, to say, he had three more months to go. Im gonna go back at him yet again, starts to look more like vindictiveness than justice. But what about williams saying, its not just that i want the conviction to be upheld. I dont want the story to be that it got reversed, which is what has happened. Oh, i dont know how many people are going to accept that. He was not convicted. I mean, lets face it, the man spent 33 months in prison for reason. Lets talk about Something Else that was big this week. The trump taj mahal had been in a big back and forth with carl icahn. The longest strike theyve ever seen in Atlantic City, and he said, guess what . By labor day, everybodys fired, and im just gonna shut the casino. And this coming in the middle of all of Atlantic Citys troubles. Theyre trying to get it together before november or go under state control. What does this mean to the Bigger Picture for Atlantic City . Well, the city borrowed 60some million from the state to make Debt Service Payments and to have liquidity. This a city thats bankrupt, and the state of new jersey has decided not to allow it to file for bankruptcy. The loss of these jobs further erodes the underlying tax base. Obviously taj is not gonna be paying realestate taxes. And, you know, this is a classic case of labor shooting itself in the head. Because they were not flexible in terms of making a deal that would but to the larger point, if i use some words, make a mental connection. Vegas or Atlantic City. International travelers. Family destination. Entertainment. Gambling. Now, 10 years ago, you had only two choices vegas and Atlantic City. Today, 48 states have some form of gambling. Other than utah and hawaii. Now, think about it. Atlantic city, if you put all your chips on just one thing, which is gambling, and you have nothing else around it, thats a recipe for disaster. Yeah, let me pick up on it. There was no diversification. Youre exactly right. And look what vegas did. I mean, it is now a family resort. You bring the kids. Who would have thought of that, what, as you point out, 25, 30 years ago . And as i look around, where is the benefit to the folks who live in Atlantic City from all this . How can you have a venue on the ocean and get it this wrong . Go to Atlantic City. You seem to be able to find out there. You got it. Very quickly, the numbers came out. We saw the huge fight over the sugarybeverage tax. You know, the side that was against it, they really threw the kitchen sink, everything they had. It turns out they spent about 10 million. The people who were for it spent 2 million. Now, usually, and you know this from politics, the guy who spends more money gets a pretty big bang for the buck. He wins the day. They have not won the day. Does this tell us Something Different or new about political skirmishes in philadelphia . Were looking at the money that was spent on television. Were not looking at the money that was spent in the halls of city council, which were used to get votes and a coalition of people. There was a lot of dealmaking that got done. And ultimately, while the publics opinion about the sugarydrink tax was important, what was probably as, if not more important, was the extent to which members of city council got to take home the bacon. And i think when we calculate that bacon, were gonna see that theres probably a lot more comparability in what was spent to pass the sugarydrink tax. So jim kenney was very smart in that initial address to say and you get a park, and you get a program, and you get a program. He has the power to do that, and he wanted this passed. All right. Well, we have to take a short break. Well come back to our insiders inside stories of the week. Im Hillary Clinton and i approve this message. How do we make the economy work for everyone . Hillary clintons plan starts here. By making big corporations and those at the top finally pay their fair share in taxes. And those companies that move overseas . Shed charge them an exit tax. Then shed use that money to make the largest investment in creating good paying jobs since world war ii. Millions of jobs. You can read the plan here. Inside story is presented by temple university. Remarkable change isnt easy, but for those who take charge, it comes naturally. Explore temples impact. Visit temple. Edu impact. Welcome back to inside story. Im tamala edwards. Lets get it going on inside stories, terry. All right, lets go back to the president ial campaign and the importance, i think, of whether or not donald trump can handle the nuclear arsenal, whether, in fact, he is capable of being commanderinchief. In 1964, the democrats went after one Barry Goldwater with one commercial. It aired one time. Its the daisy commercial, where a little girl is sitting in a field peeling petals off. In the back, a nuclear bomb went off. I think thats gonna be a huge issue for the democrats moving forward. Sam. Well, i got up this morning and thought that i would be the fashion plate of this mornings show. And then i walked in and i saw ajay and realized that, once again, a public failure. [ laughter ] thats his inside story. Ajay. How do you top that . World Affairs Council honored Vice President biden with the atlas award, and he gave a stirring speech about the pressing need to find a cure for cancer, the moonshot project. But the young Friends Division of the world Affairs Council honored dr. David fajgenbaum, a Young Research scientist at penn who has the castleman disease, which is a rare disease, but may have also found the cure for it. It was one of the most inspirational nights of my life. All right. Sam, well end with you. Tam, this week the president told us that isis is on the run in both syria and iraq. The problem is, two days earlier, nbc reported that the National Counterterrorism center has come up with a heat map that shows isis in 18 countries, a threefold increase over the last two years. They appear to be less on the run than they are on the move. Mm. All right, on that note, we will end inside story. Thank you to you guys for being here and to you for watching. Im tamala edwards. Well see you back here next sunday. Im nydia han along with gray hall. Coming up next on action news, a berks county family of five is dead in what police say is a murder suicide. A close call for a driver when a falling tree misses him in his truck. Septa changes tomorrow on the regional rails. Those stories and chris sowers has the exclusive accuweather sevenday forecast. Good afternoon it is sunday, august 7 im nydia han along with gray hall. Heres some of the stories were following on action news, police say the deaths of a berks county family appear to be a murder suicide. The man once better known as the blade runner is rushed to the hospital from his jail