I always talk about that. Any one poll can have its problems, even the good polls. Id say 4 or 5 points, but remember what this elections about. Both campaigns have targeted four states pennsylvania, ohio, north carolina, and. Florida. Mmhmm. 82 electoral votes in four states out of the 270. And well have a poll next week, and well take a look at it. I would think 4 or 5 bounce, but last point about this historically, the bounce goes away. Maybe, arguably, two elections were decided by a bounce from a successful debate. Well, its interesting you say that. Public policy polling, which i know youve got some issues with, they have her up 5 Percentage Points in pennsylvania, yet that was the same as the last two polls. And when i read that from them, it just seems as though, if thats what youre telling me, it didnt really do anything for her here. Now, remember, before the debate, there were two polls one done by Muhlenberg College and another one by cnn that had the election at 2 and 1 , respectively, in clintons favor. At one point, about six weeks ago and im glad were all seated she had a 9. 2 percentage point lead in the average of the polls. Mmhmm. 9. 2 hmm. Its now, in our state, down to, depending which polls you want to use, 3 , 4 . It really tightened. Still tightening up. And whats interesting, you raise ohio. If you look at the schedule, she hasnt been in ohio a lot. Its almost as if shes conceding. Thats not gonna happen. Everybody seems to be coming here. This week, we saw Michelle Obama here, we saw joe biden here right after the debate. Right. Mike pence is up in york. Trump will be Lancaster County this weekend. It feels as though our state, am i right, is really where a lot of the rubber is gonna hit the road. Thank god. Finally. Thats all that i ever look at. He loves it. Yeah. But to terrys point, what i think this debate did, though, was it stopped Donald Trumps momentum. So im not sure how much mrs. Clinton will be ahead, but he was closing in every one of these states. Its clear to me now. Momentum has stopped and moved forward for her, and all those other issues, weve kind of forgotten about until the next debate. And whats important secretary clinton can get there without ohio and florida. She cant get there without pennsylvania, nor can trump get there without pennsylvania. And so thats why its such a focus, and its very interesting, you know, the republican approach to this now. You know, governor kasich said that donald trump would not win ohio, and now that donald trump is gaining traction in ohio, governor kasich has, for some reason, gone silent, and i think thats the republicans saying to him, if you want a future in this party. You be quiet. You better be quiet. Because this is about power for republicans. Because many of them dont think theyll be able to work with a president trump. You know, when we came out of the debate, i thought we might be talking a little bit about taxes, whether or not he paid them, we might be talking about some other issues. Instead, this morning, were talking about Miss Universe. Right. It was a line that clinton got off against trump and some of the things that he said about Miss Universe. It has lingered for days. This morning, he got up at 3 00 in the morning and was tweeting out that shes disgusting and referencing a sex tape. Its gone nuts. And if im mike pence and ive got a debate next week, i am saying, thank you for nothing. Im trying to get us back, focused. Right. You know, in this state, were also thinking a lot about suburban women. Is this hurting him with those women all this talk about Miss Universe . I think it is because democrats have been very, very clever in this. They had this woman ready to go. The beauty queen. Then they had pieces in cosmo and other places, profiles the day after all this happened. That doesnt happen by happenstance. And theyve conflated this away from just her into females and weight, and i defer to my wife. And all the guys at the table same thing on this. This is narrate you just dont touch. Honey, you look great in that dress. The Hillary Campaign has played it brilliantly. I mean, hillarys remarks 20 years ago attacking the victims of her husband. Well, that doesnt matter. Thats irrelevant. That was 20 years ago. But theyve managed to make trumps remarks from 20 years ago immediately relevant in this campaign. I will say, on the polling, what happens as the election gets closer is more and more people paying sharper attention, and thats one of the factors that moves the polls. People have to decide who theyre gonna vote for. Theres a cliche in politics that all politics is local. Id take it further and say all politics is personal. And when people feel the countrys moving in the right direction, theyre gonna gravitate towards the person that represents that direction. Thats clearly hillary. If people think that the country is a mess and is falling apart and there are jobs going offshore and wages are stagnant and they have to compete with immigrants, legal and illegal for jobs, theres no Educational Opportunities for their kids, theres rising healthcare costs in the country, theyre gonna gravitate towards the change candidate. And as george says, donald trump is the change candidate in this election. So those are the forces that i see moving us. But if hes saying things, personally, that women dont like, will they ignore that . I didnt say donald trump was the change candidate. [ laughter ] we have the video tape, george. The question becomes all of that may make sense, but if hes saying things that are hitting women personally, are they ignoring all that other stuff and just saying, i dont like the way he makes me feel or makes my daughter feel . I think theyre conflicted right now, and theyre going back and forth, and i think a lot of these women in the collared counties, i think, could determine pennsylvania and the presidency, and theyre conflicted right up until the last day. Theyre not excited by mrs. Clinton, but stuff like this gets them back into maybe i wont vote. Yeah, theres another aspect of this, if were talking about pennsylvania. Look, the four suburban counties contributed 1. 2 million of the 5. 67 million votes. Lets throw philadelphia in there. Now were talking about five counties. Obama, 588,000, walks out of philly. That is 1 3 of the vote of the state. Lets go west. Allegheny county, pittsburgh. Over 40 of the vote. Six counties. The president won only 13 counties. The suburban women are very, very important. The collegeeducated voters, the highest percentage of them live in the four counties outside of the city of philadelphia. Right now, suburban collegeeducated voters are going for Hillary Clinton. You know who won collegeeducated voters four years ago . Mitt romney. Interesting. So we can expect its great for the station. Well be making a lot of money as they keep coming here. Yeah. Ground zero. Ground zero. Lets turn a little bit and talk about chris christie, whos a very strong trump supporter. A former aide, David Wildstein it has been bombshell testimony claiming naming names, saying all of these people heard and knew that we had done this and participated, and he claims that actually at a 9 11 ceremony, he, bill baroni, and the governor had a conversation saying christie absolutely knew. Christie says this isnt true. My question is does this have any legs . Can the governor continue to say nothing here unless a second person joins in with wildstein, or does this level of detail take this to a different level . Well, i think its interesting, and ive tried to think about this as to how governor christie, the prosecutor, with a witness like wildstein would respond to this initiative. He would be allin. And i think he understands that this thing is going to continue to grow and evolve whether anybody else adds on or not. Its gonna stay in the news. Its attached itself to him, as the political bully he is. Its the kind of thing people would believe that he would be engaged in, so i think its certainly a problem for him and its gonna be a problem for him to be in a Trump Administration if trump were somehow unfortunately to be president. But he survived three years. Right. You mean attorney general christie . Attorney general is something boy, id like to see those hearings in bridgegate. I think he knew. He had to know because this is a guy detailoriented. The whole atmosphere of the office is that, and it wasnt one day or an hour. It was four days. I mean, its shocking to me that people still want to believe that he didnt know. Lets turn and talk a little bit about Something Else coming out in the polling. You cannot turn on the television for five minutes without seeing an ad for mcginty or toomey. You probably will see one backtoback, and yet, terry, they are neck and neck still. One of the ways to think about this is you notice that when mcginty rose in the polls, so did hillary. Mmhmm. When mcginty went down in the polls, guess who was rising . Trump, in our state. Right. Heres the problem for both of them. Weve seen a dramatic decline in ticketsplitting. Only one of two of us split our tickets one of two in 1984. You know what it was four years ago . Only one in five. Now, were gonna see an uptick in that because we got a lot of people who like toomey but dont like trump. Right, who arent supporting trump, and theyll be urging a lot of ticketsplitting. This is one of the three races i think now that will determine control of the United States senate. One of three. We could actually end up 5050. Right. We often talk about that. This race is razorthin. It could be won by either candidate. If trump or clinton win our state by 5, 6, 7 points, i think its gonna be tough. Were actually seeing more ads from toomeymcginty than we are from trumpclinton. We really are. In part because trump is holding back, you know . Hes spending a lot of his own money, and so hes being very frugal on his advertising. And thats why were seeing so much toomey and mcginty. And i think the coattail effect may be working the opposite. Usually, you talk about the top of the ticket having coattails. I mean, i think its possible, not just in pennsylvania, but in other parts of the country well, toomey was running ahead of trump for a period of time. The competitive downballot races may actually pull in you know, youre gonna vote for somebody anyway. Maybe you got a vote in the president ial election, too. I differ a little bit. I think toomeys run an incredibly masterful campaign. Yeah. Hes really had to thread the needle. His problem is a lot of the trump people, some of them that call me, theyre not big fans of toomey. They may actually show up, vote for trump, and not vote for toomey. Youre there. You would think youd vote. Because trumps the antiestablishment candidate. And toomeys very establishment. But neither mcginty or toomey are charismatic candidates, so theres no passion that builds around them, and toomeys been a solid senator, i think, in many peoples mind, but nothing exceptional about it. And mcgintys actually run shes not a really great candidate, but shes probably run a better general Election Campaign than she did in the primary. Lets turn and talk about the president got his first veto override this week on a 9 11 bill. Now both houses of congress saying, people can sue saudi arabia for what happened on 9 11. The president s saying this is a terrible idea. Dont you realize saudi arabias saying it may sell off its assets so they wont be seized here, but more importantly, it could open the u. S. To being sued overseas for military and intelligence activities. And weve had 20 senators, 30 senators write a note going, yeah, actually, maybe we should have rethought this. How should we look at this . So many people up in bucks county and shanksville, this means a lot to them to be able to hold someone accountable, but in the bigger picture, is the president right that they should not have gone down this road . Congress was right, the president was wrong on this one. Both veto override votes in the house and senate were overwhelming, and the senate was like 97 to 1. 97 to 1. Right. And it was like 350 to 70 in the house. And so, you know, the american people, i think, are on the side of the 9 11 victims. They want them to be able to sue. And i think the president is just overexaggerating the consequences. Saudi arabia cant sell assets that would affect us because it would hurt them more than it would hurt us. Theres actually a role in the bill for the executive branch to play and to kind of stay the proceedings in the courts if the judge is willing to go along with it. So theres still a role for the executive branch. Their voice will still be heard. But if a wedding gets blown in iraq and they can say an american bomb erroneously targets civilians, does this now open us up for them to say, we want to sue. We have people here who deserve some remuneration . Thats the fundamental problem. There is no question that this was, in many significant parts, a political vote. Its a very difficult vote to cast against the 9 11 victims. Absolutely. No matter what party youre in. But i think the president s issue and all of what jan has said is accurate as it relates to saudi arabia but the question that the president is raising is what risk does this put americans at in Foreign Countries and being subject to suits by them . Right. And we dont know the answer to that, and many people concluded that they didnt really debate it, by the way. I dont think its just political. This is unfinished business. People believe, and i think rightfully, saudi arabia had a hand in this whole thing, and were still back to 9 11. We still wondering how did all this happen . And this helps to give some ability bucks county, for example and we have never gotten a full report about some of the folks who were involved in this. Even when we get a full report, its halfway redacted. Yeah, thats a great point. But they still have not released information on four or five of them you might know four or five of them, right, jan . We dont still know anything about them. Right. And you cant deprive american victims of justice under the excuse that oh, down the road, some foreign country may be unjust towards american citizens. Well, we have to deal with that when the situation arises. Thats a different question. You have to figure out what path youre on. When you start dealing with sovereign immunity, thats a big question. You as a lawyer understand that, jan, and thats what were dealing with here. Were dealing with sovereign immunity. Thats a big question. I think were dealing with justice. Were dealing with time to take a commercial, unfortunately. Nice segue. So well do that and well come back to more inside story. Inside story is presented by temple university. Remarkable change isnt easy, but for those who take charge, it comes naturally. Explore temples impact. Visit temple. Edu impact. Approve this message. Id look her right in that fat ugly face of hers. Shes a slob. She ate like a pig. A person whos flat chested is very hard to be a 10. Does she have a good body . No. Does she have a fat [expletive] . Absolutely. Do you treat women with respect . I cant say that either. Katie v she stays late. Rd. But she gets paid 21 less than her male coworkers. Pat toomey has voted time after time against equal pay for women, against pay that helps hard working families get ahead. Katie o c for my daughters and yours, ill fight for equal pay for women. Families need it; youve earned it. Katie v o im Katie Mcginty, and i approve this message because its your turn to get ahead. Welcome back to inside story. We got to talk about the ppa. My, god, its a soap opera. So, the executive director, vince fenerty, the first thing that comes out is an investigator says, yes, he did sexually harass a senior director here. The board says, hes sorry. Were gonna let him keep his job. Hes gonna get some help. Then it comes out this week that there was another case 10 years ago, in 2006. The board goes, okay, were gonna fire you. He says, no, ill resign. They say, if we had known, we wouldnt have let him keep the job. They say, the council knew and shouldve told us. Over night, a spokesman says, actually, they were told about this. And many people saying, we didnt remember. The case case went to mediation, it didnt stick with us. This is a mess. Should anybody beyond fenerty be held accountable because, obviously, there were 10 years of something going on in that department that maybe somebody shouldve known about and reacted to. I think so, and when you look at how bloated it is the budget and how many people there and the salaries and all that, and given this this is worse than the dentist, the towing people and Everything Else theyre already on fragile ground. But i think they exist in a bubble, there. Thats been my experience. Let me put my partisan hat on and say, thank goodness the Parking Authority is controlled by republicans. There we go gratuitous shot. And its a state controlled. Of course, democrats are never involved in corruption. They are in philadelphia. But jan jan does this end. Does this end with fenerty or do we see the wheel turn for others. No, everyone understands ppa is a patronage mill, and yes, its controlled by people in harrisburg, but and there are moves underfoot to study the question and try and take it back for philadelphia. But it will be a patronage mill for philadelphia democrats if they get a hold of it. But this should expose whats wrong with the philadelphia Parking Authority, and the Good Government people need to get involved. Fenerty is walking away with a pension of over 154,000 a year. The biggest pension on record for the philadelphia retirement plans, and i can i claw it back . Can i claw it back . And he doesnt even work for wellsfargo. [ laughter ] no, but i guess that would be the question because of the tone of this, does he get his pension no matter what or can they make the case, you left for Jerry Sanduskys getting his pension. Right. I mean, its amazing to me, yeah. Well, its called conviction, and remember, if youre in state pension system, if youre convicted of a crime not related to your job, you dont forfeit your pension. And you have to be convicted. Just because youre charged. Or resigned. And all of these plans are underfunded. Thats a completely different issue, but its a big one. Lets talk about something going on in harrisburg. Theres been a fight between the house and the senate in pa over a child sex ab