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peppers, "californication" i love that. i like it, i like it. joining us is will cain, mark lamont hill, professor at columbia university and john fugelsang, political comedian. i love watching the shuttle take off going into retirement after 39 different flights. >> even when it's taking off on top of a jumbo jet? >> yes, will cain. >> it's amazing, look at how huge that is. >> i watched it many times from my parents' yard in florida. >> 39 times, more than any other shuttle. it's a piece of history. they'll take the enterprise, which is at the smithsonian now, and was a test model ...

columnist david from, the host of the fromme forum and former speechwriter for george w. bush. thank you for being here. the one thing we're going to be hearing about in the next 12 months, david i put it to you, a gop set of primaries, looking for a candidate, talking about the middle class, who represents the middle class in this country? the the democrats are trying to make some speeches that the democrats are the party of the middle class, republicans the party of the rich. the republicans struggling with that themselves. david, what's your sense of how republicans are positionin...

diane swonk, old friend, chief of messere, aux financial. we're talking about the middle class. who represents the middle class in this country. the democrats are trying to make the point with speeches by president obama in the last couple of weeks. democrats are the party of the middle class. republicans are the party of the rich. republicans obviously are struggling with that themselves. david, what's your sense of how republicans are thinksing themselves and who in this country represents the vast majority of people, the middle class. >> i don't think anybody is doing a very goo...

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