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do you think they will be able to get their money back? i think that for the major debt holder, the bond order should be, to be honest, we expect this bond order can still only recover approximately 2% or 3% under liquidation scenario and currently the bond issued by evergrande is only trading at 2 cents of the dollar. at this point we believe the most valuable assets owned by evergrande are still in offshore assets which include the share of the publicly serviced and other electric vehicle divisions. meanwhile we think it is virtually impossible to recover anything from its onshore ...

all of that with these two — there they are. one of germany's leading business groups tells me it's important that consumers start splashing the cash again and how problems abroad are hurting his members. also, the chairwoman of the german startup association, herself a successful entrepreneur, tells me why a different way of thinking is needed. and it's the younger generation that are going to deliver it. also, i catch up with the big boss of germany's most valuable company, the software giant sap, about why he's worried the rise of the far right could harm his country's economy, ...

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