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>> reporter: more than 1200 and for precisely the same reasons, seeking, if you will, a hedge position against whatever the future may hold. and it's an intelligent approach. i mean we are seeing much of the same thing happen with our surrounding countries to the european union, where they are seeking eu residency and status so they have an escape valve, if you will. it's a fascinating issue. so much is negative in our news right now about this country, we are still the mecca for nearly all of the world. martha: the points to how w weak so many places are that people are seeking a safe-haven h...

Democrats and particularly the administration have been talking about how dire the situation is and that the treasury secretary sends out this letter saying that the statutory debt limit has been reached as of today, and that he can only move the shells around until early august. that said, it doesn't seem to be a lot of fast tracking, as far as consensus. the going bet here in washington is that the debt limit increase will happen, but there will be strings attached to it, what those strings are they haven't worked out yet. jenna: and those are the important strings indeed. thank you very muc...

Translates to gains here in south carolina, especially. this state has the highest per capita population of active and retired military. so democrats hoping that the killing of usama bin laden will translate into support from this have important group of voters here in south carolina. jenna and jon, back to you. jenna: that will be interesting to see if that is a factor. it certainly will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow night. are you and chris stirewalt going out on the town jonathan a little bit ahead of this debate. >> reporter: yes, if we have free time i. used to live here, i ...

Very quickly, though, something very important, refiners right now are making more money than they ever have. i've been doing this for 23 years in the oil business, the refiners are making more money than they ever have right now. so there is room for gasoline -- jenna: why are they making money. >> the market is demanding it. if this fox news poll is right and 62% of the people poll say they will change their driving habits then maybe demand starts to slack off. right now gasoline is being demanded and demanded strong. we are coming out of a reinvestigation. jenna: there is always someone mak...

20 years have done a tremendous amount of work. >> working with concert with the epa. martha: to make it cleaner and more efficient. >> i don't want to shock anyone but at over a hundred dollars a barrel they can bring three or four epa officials along with every oil rig, with every effort to extract coal and have whatever standard they want. it's time for them to awaken. martha: incredible. thank you very much. lou dobbs great to see you as always. you can catch lou on the fox business network every single night. it heirs week nights at 7:00pm eastern time. do not miss it. when the president ...