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Delegates in new york have been haggling over the question of how to share the potential benefits of newly—discovered resources collected beyond any country's territorial jurisdiction. they're hoping to draw up a new high seas treaty, which has been on the table for fifteen years. the un defines high seas as parts of the ocean beyond a country's territorial waters. they form two—thirds of all the earth's oceans and nearly half of the entire globe is covered by high seas. experts say the treaty is essential because only i% of all high seas is protected. i wasjoined earlier by nichola clark,...

Headquarters in new york now where the negotiations are still ongoing. nichola clark is an 0ceans governance expert with pew charitable trust and she's been following the talks. thank you very much forjoining us. it sounds like it has been quite an intense couple of days. what is the sense you are getting about how the talks are going? it getting about how the talks are oiiin ? ., , , getting about how the talks are auoin ? . , , ., going? it has indeed been an intense couple _ going? it has indeed been an intense couple of _ going? it has indeed been an intense couple of days, - going? it has...

Giant screen are working, that's kind of our knowledge of the deep ocean. we don't know so much of what is going on. countries will need to meet again to formally adopt the treaty, but for many, now, there will be much relief. esme stallard, bbc news. i've been speaking to nichola clark — she's an 0ceans governance expert with pew charitable trust who joined us from the un headquarters in new york. she told me how much this significant this moment is. it was an incredible moment to be in the united nations. we have been working on trying to secure this treaty. we have been talking about this...

How many years are we talking for more concrete developments? lots of people now have to go home and it has to be agreed domestically, there are so many further steps required. how long are we talking? well, it took around 20 years to get here. and now we don't know, actually. the sooner, the better. but as you know with all these treaties we've seen in the past, let's say with the climate treaty, what happened with the biodiversity treaty, it takes time. but the thing is, what we need to understand here, i must quickly mention here, this is notjust about those minerals or genetic materials. 0...