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Going to cut it to ban eu and to ban rt and sputnik, and that's how they decided to go through the economic economic sanctions route. but rt is actually challenging that in front of eu courts. so we will see whether that is legally solid or not. and does it mean, is that is the onus now on the tech companies to block rt voluntarily? i mean, they were in the scope of the sanctions. so the online online channels, telegram channels, youtube channels, facebook. all of that was in the scope, so they have removed them. it was legally binding for them to do so. but what we're seeing is what we call m...

But with different urls. and on fringe platforms like 0dyssey, well—known covid—19 conspiracy groups. you can still find rt on a website that has a very fringe conspiracy theory type content. how successful do you think russian media has been at influencing opinion in the west. , i think a few people have got very rich, but i will not mention them on this programme. they appear on these kinds of shows as kind of apologists. having an english reporter, an english voice on rt which has a tiny audience i don't think is that influential. i do think there was important influence in other areas ...

It is harder to crack down on them. and on fringe platforms like 0dyssey, well—known among anti—vax covid—19 conspiracy groups. you can still find rt on that website. how successful do you think russian media has been at influencing opinion in the west. very little. i think a few people have got very rich, but i will not mention them on this programme. they appear on these kinds of shows as kind of apologists. having an english reporter, an english voice on rt which has a tiny audience i don't think is that influential. i do think there was important influence in other areas particularly...