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Caucuses was huge on the democratic side, obviously because of the hillary clinton/barack obama fight at that point. it was about 120,000 in 2008 on the republican side. that was a big number. what are you expecting in terms of turnout and what kind of logistical planning do you have to do if you're expecting a big number this year? >> i tell you, logistically, it's obviously very difficult. we have 809 different caucus sites. 1,074 different precincts. it's a great beast our chairman matt straun is trying to tame here. we're just not sure yet. part of it is the number you talked about with pe...

Clinton/barack obama fight at that point. it was about 120,000 in 2008 on the republican side. that was a big number. what are you expecting in terms of turnout and what kind of logistical planning do you have to do if you're expecting a big number this year? >> i tell you, logistically, it's obviously very difficult. we have 809 different caucus sites. 1 1,074 different precincts. it's a great beast our chairman matt straun is trying to tame here. we're just not sure yet. part of it is the number you talked about with people uncertain who they're going to support. we expect there will be a la...