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About options going forward. if this goes down the way it's expected to, we've already heard from the new york governor and attorney general saying that they will sue on behalf of the dreamers. what do you want to see a state like california do? what do you think in terms of how to fight this? >> we'll take a page out of texas book, use the 10th amendment to stand up for these young people. we'll pass laws as an example. you need a warrant to come into hospital, to come into a counties, courthouse, to come into a school to come into places where you otherwise don't have a place to be except if...

Enjoined the administration not to do it because he believes at the end of the day this action will be found to be unconstitutional. jeff sessions cannot decide to not appropriate money that congress has said must be appropriated and cannot violate the 10th amendment. in other words, coerce cities, towns or states to do things which is against the 10th amendment. if he is going to violate the law to get someone else to enforce it, then he is the one being lawless. >> shannon: we have seen this kind of thing happens from the feds on down before. i want to read a little bit what the lawsuit says...

Join you. >> you have been very clear you're no fan of this commission and you're not giving over your state's -- the data that was requested from your state. what did you think of what the president just said right there. if there's any state that doesn't provide the information you have to wonder what are they worried about? what are you worried about? >> well, in terms of kentucky, it's making sure that 3.3 million kentuckians' sensitive private information is not pub in the public domain and importantly in the hands of vladimir putin someone who all intelligence agencies confirm sought to ...

>> well it's not just kentucky, i'm proud that kentucky has led the way. but it's secretaries of state across the nation, chief election official who is believe that the constitution and especially the 10th amendment mean something that elections and especially voter registration are left to the states to run. we need a national voter registration file about as much as we need another tweet from the president. i'm here at the national association of secretaries of state conference. we've just begun and it goes until monday. the sense i get is that my colleagues are standing strong and reiterat...

The right, under the 10th amendment to be able to conduct the affairs of elections. only in cases like the 15th amendment where the racial discrimination can the federal government have a powerful and positive role. so having said that, i think that it would be incumbent on the trump administration to find a way to cooperate with the states in raising the bar as to election integrity. but frankly, this is the first time i have ever heard of someone who clearly won the election in the electoral college coming back with fraud claims that. look, he won. he won the election. >> shannon: to that po...