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>> now that we've talked about that, who's hungry? >> me. >> there's apparently now an obscure new york sales tax where if you buy a bagel here in new york, it costs you on average a dollar. right? but if you simply ask for the bagel to be sliced, ok, it's $1.08. >> can we play act? steve, i'd like a bagel but i'd like it sliced. >> ok. >> that's an extra $0.08. there's a new york tax that kicks in, it's for labor. look how hard this is. >> it's exhausting! steve, $0.08, coming your way. put it in the coffers. >> that's odd. >> gave me $0.09. >> it's amazing. >> you get change back. >> because...

The problem is this one is very, very slow. with the kind of monetary stimulus we have now, we're going to come out of this. it's going to probably be slow but we don't know know that. the problem we face now -- and this is the problem really bothering voters, is this tremendous buildup in government debt. i think what a lot of consumers and voters are re acting to is the possibility we just can't pay the bills. in other words the deficit is so enormous and the buildup in debt so huge that not only will we spend $1.08 on interest in the debt by 2020 but that spike could have happen much earlie...