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Doesn't like subsidies. >> and i'm often wondered, were they better off as slaves picking cotton and having family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy. >> cliven bundy is very concerned about the impact of government subsidies -- on african-americans, that is. he is apparently lessed about the effect of government subsidies on people like him because over the years cliven bundy has been the beneficiary of a benefit subsidy, and he's not alone. ranchers like bundy, even the ones who do pay their fees, receive millions in subsidies every year grazing on federal...

Facts. based on the facts themselves. >> here's what really got me. he keeps talking. these folks are living under subsidy. that's the word he used. these folks are living under subsidy. okay. this is per unit, per cow calf combination, per month cost of grazing fees on federal land. the amount that he won't pay. $1.35. the market price in the western united states per cow calf per month is $16.80. the federal government so subsidizes federal grazing fees to the tune of 15-plus bucks per cow/calf a month, and even that welfare is not good enough for him to take. >> that's right. because he's s...

Others who are suddenly doing their best imitation of scalded dogs. so the guy's a complete crank and a racist and he's an anachronism in many ways, chris. the fact is they never should have embraced him based on the facts. based on the facts themselves. >> here's what really got me. he keeps talking. these folks are living under subsidy. that's the word he used. these folks are living under subsidy. okay. this is per unit, per cow calf combination, per month cost of grazing fees on federal land. the amount that he won't pay. $1.35. the market price in the western united states per cow calf pe...

Have embraced him based on the facts. based on the facts themselves. >> here's what really got me. he keeps talking. these folks are living under subsidy. that's the word he used. these folks are living under subsidy. okay. this is per unit, per cow calf combination, per month cost of grazing fees on federal land. the amount that he won't pay. $1.35. the market price in the western united states per cow calf per month is $16.80. the federal government so subsidizes federal grazing fees to the tune of 15-plus bucks per cow/calf a month, and even that welfare is not good enough for him to take. ...

When you play footty with some of these people, you can kiwindp in this sort of situation. >> governor, you know that culture out west. you know ranchers well. this is not a ranchers thing. this is an anti-governor thing. and it's a hypocrisy thing to run for government, run to be the president of the union and support people that are trying to destroy and disobey the union and say i don't recognize it at all. i only recognize the state law by nevada. >> the state of nevada charges $12 per animal unit per month. one cow, one calf is $12 if h ewants to pay nevada. it's only $1.35 when he was pa...