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Business, but the majority of the small businesses in this country do not make close to $40000,000. it absolutely does not. is this a lack of experience or lack of knowledge or saying that i want to take a different stance. >> that is to matt's point, there may not be an ideological structure beneath this. >> and when we come back, we want to talk about some of the things that have happened since the 113th have convened. the sap ndy relief bill.

Kopgwoman, y congresswoman, you are a member of the diverse women, and there are pictures of the women standing there on the steps of the capitol, and can the war against women finally begin to be wrapped up in the 113th? can you get vawa through? >> well, i hope we can. melissa, this is a personal issue for me, and before i was in politics i was a social worker. my first job was as a rape counselor at a crisis shelter so this is an issue that mattered for me my entire life, and the fact that the 112th let vawa expire, it does not mean they are just opposed to the protections, but it means tha...

Much higher unemployment. >> you're talking about the sequester? >> the sequester and the repeal of taxes at the same time. plus the sequester. plus, you would have had no -- extensions of unemployment would have gone away. the doc fix, that is say, medicare rates would have gone down by 20%. so a lot of people would not have been able to get taxes. it was better than the alt ti . alternative. i think we will look back on this as either a good thing or a bad thing in the next two months. >> let me ask you your questions before i get your thoughts on the deal. what i said up there was, it it se...

Have a republican in that position. however, i think tactically for the white house having a republican in that position in a time of budget cuts is a very smart political move. >> okay. karen finney, johnny fratto, always good to have you on the show. here's our twitter question of the day. it is -- what should be the top priority for the 113th congress? some of your tweets -- gop led house campaign in 2010 on jobs it would be nice if they actually passed several job bills. immigration, debt ceiling, true government reform. most definitely immigration reform. we have to fix it and when we d...

What did we do? >> well, congresswoman, the reason i laughed and had to stop in the middle of the mcconnell quote is that the idea that the debt or the so-called spiraling debt is the fundamental pre-eminent issue facing us, and if that is the sort of the line in the sand for the 113th, it sounds like you are going to have a hard time getting these o other things addressed if in fact, the narrative is always going to be about debt and spending in some way. >> well, what we have seen is that most americans do see that debt is a concern, and they may not understand all of the details, but they k...