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Corporate cuts. >> right. >> you have to have targeting getting rid of the loopholes. cutting the corporate tax rate, there is no lever that will force any of the companies to quote, unquote, pay people more wages, quote, unquote, do the right thing. >> it might end up in the pockets of shareholders as dividends or things like that. lee, good to see you, as always. >> good to see both of you. >> maybe a ceo would buy an nfl team, and it would be considered an llc and he'd get a great tax rate. all right. we're going to take a break. russell simmons and hollywood director brett ratner both na...

>> reporter: monita, we've just heard from the interior ministry something which you could read in certain ways, i suppose. two gunshots were fired at 2:00 a.m. in the morning. so about seven hours ago now. they don't know why and since then they haven't heard anything. they haven't heard any kind of communication with the suspect holed up inside the house. he had said earlier in discussions with police that he had wanted to die with his weapons in his hand. interior ministry has said consistently that their priority is to get him out alive. we hope that he's alive. there is a possib...