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A year ago when the stimulus bill was signed the unemployment rate in michigan was 12.0%. in december of '09, nine, eight months later it up to 14.6%, increase of 2.6% not including those who may have given up and unaccounted for. the unemployment rate has gone up 2.6% in michigan and we've spent 10.6 billion dollars in that stay -- in that state. is that fair? do those numbers mean anything? >> they do. also the automotive sector has collapsed. what the vice president said correctly this is a big ditch we are in. we are in an exceedingly rare economic event. we had two doubles that burst at t...

A year ago when the stimulus bill was signed the unemployment rate in michigan was 12.0%. in december of '09, nine, eight months later it up to 14.6%, increase of 2.6% not including those who may have given up and unaccounted for. the unemployment rate has gone up 2.6% in michigan and we've spent 10.6 billion dollars in that stay -- in that state. is that fair? do those numbers mean anything? >> they do. also the automotive sector has collapsed. what the vice president said correctly this is a big ditch we are in. we are in an exceedingly rare economic event. we had two doubles that burst at t...