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The audience off the first debate. that one brought in about 8.5 million viewers. the third one was this past weekend. this saturday before christmas. it brought in even fewer viewers than the previous one. nielsen numbers look like it's roughly 7.85 million people who watched saturday night. and of course the republicans have been putting up blockbuster ratings for their zillions of prime-time highly promoted debates, some of which have had over 20 million people watching them. but look at this. compare these ratings to 2012. remember, in 2012 president obama was running for re-election. so t...

Debates, some of which have had over 20 million people watching them. but look at this. compare these ratings to 2012. remember, in 2012 president obama was running for re-election. so there's no democratic party debates. right? it's just the republicans holding their hilarious, riveting, bizarro 2012 primary with herman cain and newt gingrich and all the rest of them. i mean, in 2012 the republican debates were the best show on television by a mile. and i say that as a person with a tv show on television. everybody was watching the republican debates in 2012. you could not turn away. but comp...

Attention is focused on how bad hillary clinton would be as a presidential candidate, i love to point out that she'd be a pretty good deceiver in chief, certainly not someone you can trust to be the commander in chief. that's where i'll focus my time, on how bad hillary clinton would be. >> if everyone spends their time attacking hillary clinton, how will they stand out? will they spend their time attacking hillary clinton or each other? >> i think more hillary clinton. but the problem for the republicans is similar to what happened to mitt romney in 2012. remember when he went down that road ...

>> this was a big issue in 2012. remember, mitt romney talking about self-deportation. it was a big issue in the primary when you had rick perry and mitt romney and others debating amongst themselves, how far to go. and running away from the pathway to citizenship. scott walker used to support the pathway to citizenship. and now he's turned against to it win the nominee. first you have that fight there with no one actually supporting what is a majority, and then in the general, you can have this very black and white distinction. >> jeb bush. she goes after this guy who has a mexican wife and s...

The other party will have people on the hard right like the most egregious would be the hell with those people who have been here illegally. even if he's working for me and working hard i'm getting him out of here. it seem she's nailed it. it will be are you for it or against it? tough on illegal immigration at all, or very tough? >> this was a big issue in 2012. remember mitt romney talking about self-deportation. it was a big issue in the primary when you had rick perry and mitt romney and others debating amongst themselves how far to go. and running away from the pathway to citizenship. sco...