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>> sean: if donald trump is wrong, that would mean that "the new york times" is wrong. >> to release information, sean, there is an ongoing investigation the president should be giving information out. that would be appropriate, turning over to congress -- >> sean: so it was meaningless when he said he did not directed? bill, let me go back to you. executive order 12333. it was revised in the final two weeks of the obama administration. eo 12333. that allows our government to literally wiretap and metadata store every phone call of every citizen, every text and email? that is your belief? >> i...

They're not allowed to take notes. the rest is held by the white house. and so the question is, you know, the indication that we got of how it was briefed as well was that they had an ngo had access into what they called a denied area and that was something they needed. they were very blind in north korea. it wasn't out of nowhere that they came up with the idea to try to get in. they were desperate. i don't think there was any real mention of the religious association of both the organization that was being used and then the unwitting people in north korea who were being used further down the...

>> i can't tell you how many have called me and said i'm ticked off. we have wussies running this country. we've got to fight these guys. how do you do that? >> you have to decide who the enemy is. we have a radical islamic problem. we must define and move forward with a clear purpose of going into those communities. ralph is completely correct. eo 12333 talks about if you are affiliated or linked to a terrorist o you can be spied on. accept that in a matter of law and start doing it. we need to get -- it's not about nsa and bulk collection. that's a distraction. we need people like me underco...

Government access to e-mailed images of among other things private parts. take a listen. >> can they see my [ bleep ]? 702 surveillance, can they see my [ bleep ]? >> yes. your wholly domestic communication between you and your wife can go from new york to london and back and get caught up in the data base. >> executive order 12333 peep beep? >> yes. when you send your [ bleep ] through gmail, for example, that's stored on google's servers. google moves data from data center to data center. your data could be moved outside the borders of the united states. >> oh, no. >> when your [ bleep ] was...

May also have violated the fourth amendment, the computer fraud and abuse act as well as executive order 12333. >> as far as the allegations of cia hacking into senate computers, nothing could be further from the truth. we wouldn't do that. >> there you have it. joining me former indiana democratic senator and fox news contributor evan bayh and republican congressman pete hoef stra. good afternoon to both of you. very interesting to see senator dianne feinstein make a remark like that. there's been very much in the need for intelligence and the supporter of intelligence. what do you think abou...