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What? >> i think the plan that he helped create hasn't done owe well for americans seeking health insurance. again, i don't have to go over the numbers but just think about what he sought out to do. i mean, there was a pool of people that needed hlth care. they got about 9 million of them. you have got 14.4 plus or minus million of people who claimed a hardship exemption. so they have no insurance, they are not receiving medicaid that don't qualify for any other assistance who can't afford obamacare. and then you have got another 6 million plus that have chosen to pay the penalty. so i would a...

People covered 14.4 or 14.5 million people applied for a hardship exemption. they are exactly the people that you are talking about. another 6.5 million people paid the penalty and don't have it. we have roughly 20 million people in this country who were supposed to be paying -- required to buy health care that have chosen not do it, who fall into exactly the category you are talking about. the question -- >> that number is massive by the year 2026. >> right. and so the point. >> 20 million americans. >> but if they actually had choices and had a plan option that was down at a bmt they could a...

People covered 14.4, 14.5 million people applied for a hardship exemption. those are exactly the people you're talking about. there's 6.5 million people have paid the penalty and don't have it. so we have roughly 20 million people in this country who were supposed to be paying, required to buy health care, that have chosen not to do it who fall into the category that you're talking about. the question -- no, no. >> that number is massive by the year 2026. >> right. but if they had choices and had a plan option that was down to a budget they could afford, there's a higher likelihood that they w...

Participating. african-americans at 12.8% and hispanics at 14.4%. we compare that to 2008 and look at the dropoff amongst african-american participation as part of the overall electorate. democrats don't like to see this drop-off. what they are happy about, though, is this number right here where you have hispanics now increasing their influence in the process by about 336,000 votes right now in 2016 over where they were in 2008. let us now go up to north carolina. up in north carolina, right now, 2.5 million people have already cast an early vote and who is leading there? democrats are, erin,...

Deductions and loopholes. you also have to do some strategic cutting. >> several of the candidates have flat tax plans. do the numbers add up? >> no, i have not seen any independent analysis that shows that a flat tax will balance the budget. i think it's incredible in this election cycle we thought was about anyone inequality, most candidates are running on flat tax. it makes income inequality a lot worse. it lowers taxes for the rich and raises taxes for the poor. according to the tax foundation, which is a right leaning nonprofiting look at rand paul's proposal for a 14.4% flat tax across t...