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Let's don't worry about fraud, incompetency, inefficiency, let's just eliminate duplications over the next year. you can pay for two and a half times what the sequester is. >> is what he is offering there, is that a practical solution? >> well, what he's saying is absolutely not doable. do i agree that we should eliminate waste and duplication? that's just fine. but in the meantime, we have to have a -- something of a budget. my problem is something the republicans like, it asks nothing of the wealthiest corporations, no closing of loopholes, but it goes back once again to federal employees wh...

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Senator patty murray and congressman paul ryan may be close to a budget deal but minorities on both sides, house democrats and senate republicans, have some concerns. democrats are especially worried about what this deal might mean to the middle class. maryland democratic congressman chris van hollen is the top democrat on the house budget committee. always good to see you, congressman. good morning. >> good to see you, chris. good morning to you. >> i think you know the reports are the deal could include cuts to federal worker pensions. is that a line in the sand for you? >> well, first of al...

Opponent says he will raise them as a last resort or a third resort. but when a politician talks like that, you know that's one resort he will be checking into. [cheers] >> and my opponent -- my opponent won't rule out raising taxes but i will and the congress will push me to raise taxes and i will say no, and they will push and i will say. no and they will push again and i will say to them read my lips. no new taxes. [cheers and applause] >> well, that turned out to be false. mr. bush raised taxes in 1990 to the tune of $140 billion. he explained to the nation he had to do it because of the h...

It's sometimes parsimoniously afforded to people. >> so you're now running for new york city comptroller. one of the duties in that job will be to manage $140 billion in pension assets. that is where a lot of the job's power comes from. you will go from being the sheriff of wall street to one of their largest customers. >> right. >> how do you -- how do you intend to use that? what is your sort of vision for how that will work? >> i've spoken at some length over the years about the capacity of controller, state controllers, municipal controllers. those who control pension funds. those who are ...