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When it comes to mr. booker's proposal, for all of theseop people, 144,000 i think in may as an example that, crossed over, where should we put everyone that crosses illegally if we have open borders and do away with the facilities? what do you propose? >> well, that's exactly the question.>> it's not what corey book it's not what corey book it's what president trump is going propose. we're now 2 1/2 years into it and he was the messiah to solve the immigration issue.su c he ran and won, very largely, on the immigration issue. all he's doing is complaining about the democrats and republicans. ...

144,000 people came in the country illegally. in all of 2018 you had 400,000 people come in. human smugglers are getting better at moving people from point a to point b. they're taking these folks' money. we're not doing enough to attack the infrastructure and demolish the infrastructure of those carriers. >> you mentioned these detention centers as well as your colleagues have spoken to accounts they have seen in the past week. i would love to hear from you directly, what have you seen and have you had conversations with some of the migrants and what did they tell you? >> i haven't had the co...

And it is a policy crisis. even the most dovish immigration approach understand people who are detanld need to be heard first. most of them come back for their second hearing but that first hearing is necessary. and we have a backlog of over 850,000 cases. there simply aren't enough judges. the detention of minors, releasing them from dhs custody to hhs custody is a policy issue. this needs to be addressed in law and the president can't do it all himself. >> heather, there are 144,000 apprehensions in may. that was a 13-year high. that was a 182% jump over the previous may. there have been 600...

Crisis. to hear what you're saying about the conditions at these detention facilities, you define this as a crisis when it comes to the treatment of these children and the conditions at these facilities. my question to you is do you also see the number, the volume of migrants trying to cross the border, 144,000 apprehensions in may, biggest number in 13 years. do you also think that that constitutes a crisis? >> well, i think it constitutes a challenge. i think this administration has hyped the situation at the border. remember the caravans that were the biggest crisis in the world? i think we...

Of america. a lot of republicans are saying if they lost texas because there are so many people moving from california. so many illegal immigrants moving in. if the laws allow them to vote, then the country could go in a totally different direction. brian: what have we been talking about on the couch you on the weekends, you at the caravans, you at the border. we have been there twice we have been saying huge problem at the border. humanitarian aid. we need border patrol agents. more funding, we need a wall. what do the democrats say? manufactured crisis it's no big deal. hiewmplet aid up for ...