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That have been here, 10 to 12 million people. the braserro program that went away. it's a combination of all of the above. >> could numbers like these that i just stated, that group of 1,000 or 144,000 encountered at the border in may alone, a 13-year high. can that issue be reduced by containment alone? >> i think -- there's an industry that's been created in mexico with the coyotes bringing those migrants from central america. they're charging $6,000 to $8,000 per family. it's almost likes extortion. they've got to stop it at their end as much as we've got to deal with it at our end. mexico ...

That's my question, how do they know in fact, they are family units when 11,000 are unaccompanied minors, illegally crossed into the country, many of these minors are complete strangers to the families that drive them across the border because their parents are selling them and then allowing them to be abandoned in fields and now the children are unaccounted for? >> these are good questions, just for context, it's absolutely a crisis, by way of example, 144,000 undocumented border crossers were apprehended. in that group 84,000 were family units, the 11,000 you're talking about were above and ...

Improve the management of the people who are leaving those three countries, and that has to be done on a regional basis. that's something i think all countries are continuing to talk about. and see if we can't get some sort of an agreement on a regional basis to manage these migration flows. >> you have been watching the numbers, like all of us, and the numbers in may, just remarkable. 144,000 more, in fact, migrants apprehended, encountered at the border. that's triple may of 2018. tripling in a year there. what is your best understanding as to why those migrants numbers are rising so much no...

Migrants. and they leave primarily for economic reasons. there's a drought there. it's basically ruined the coffee industry, and that's where many of the jobs were located for the people who are trying to get to the united states or mexico. the second thing is the lack of security. gang activity has been really prevalent in those three countries. that's been the short-term answer. on the long term, you have to have jobs at home or you're going to continue to have this migration phenomenon. and it affects both mexico and the united states. we had 144,000, but mexico had several tens of thousand...

We need to to repatriot people successfully. >> you have to speaker of the house with the release that says threats and temper tantrums are no way to negotiate foreign policy. you're saying that this threat worked? >> people can disagree with the tactics, méxico came to the table with real proposals, we have an agreement if they implement will be effective. >> i want to talk about the specifics, quote, from administration, the customs and border official says we are bursting at the seams, unsustainable and can't continue. these numbers. >> right. >> you put them in context for people at home?...