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Than the mcnuggets. >> yes, probably if you go to scotland. fundamentally the sorbet is stating the obvious. america spent -- this is my one fact. america spent $147 billion on healthcare last year related to obesity. so, yes, of course, fast-food is bad for you. it is hardly surprising a chicken mcnugget is basically silly putty and you are silly to be eating it. >> all i said is we need to spend less on healthcare. >> i think it is cool that there is chemicals in there now because i used to think it was just lips and [explative] and at least i know now what is in there. >> bill, if you could...

And chips for every meal. that has to be less healthy than the mcnuggets. >> yes, probably if you go to scotland. fundamentally the sorbet is stating the obvious. america spent -- this is my one fact. america spent $147 billion on healthcare last year related to obesity. so, yes, of course, fast-food is bad for you. it is hardly surprising a chicken mcnugget is basically silly putty and you are silly to be eating it. >> all i said is we need to spend less on healthcare. >> i think it is cool that there is chemicals in there now because i used to think it was just lips and [explative] and at le...

That's what makes it so difficult to stem the problem. it's fast food, it's what we're eating, it's our activity levels, i think that as the years go by, the pace of our life gets faster and we have less time to eat healthy and less time to exercise, unfortunately. >> looking at numbers, in 2008, medical costs associated with obesity, $147 billion, i have got to ask you, lisa, i know you work with a lot of people. how much of it is also emotional. folks want to lose weight, especially if they know they're morbidly obese, they have children, they want to be hea h healthy for those kids. is some...

Options. again, there's $147 billion in costs related to obesity every year that we have in our economy that we're all sharing in that. so we need -- the kids are the ones suffering. they should have choices to have healthier options, to be able to grow up to be a healthy weight when they're an adult. so it's really giving the kids and opportunity versus -- >> neil: i just think you're shifting whatever they're doing. they're not getting the chocolate chip cookie as school. your intentions are good but it is an expensive nanny state you're encouraging and by saying you parents are doing a lous...

To look at. >> it's a huge epidemic and it cost us so much, mika. $147 billion every year because of this issue of obesity. what we do and i look at what arkansas has. one in every four children in arkansas is hungry. and one in every five child in arkansas is obese. we've got to deal with the issues. the cost to us both in terms of future and the people, these children going to be the future leaders of our country and workers but also in terms of cost to health care. huge epidemic. we can start where it should be started and that's in the schools. obviously, in our families and our homes but ...