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Think it is a real proposal, 400 billion in 10 years, when he, at the end of this year will have nearly five trillion that he accumulated in debt. >> he's grown the size of government by 25%. he wants to take discretionary nonsecurity spending, that's all he wants to do and freeze that. that's out of the 3.5 trillion budget, 662 billion dollars out of a 3.5 trillion dollar pie. he's not going to do anything about over 400 billion dollars in other mandatory spending, 700 billion dollars in social security, 500 billion dollars in medicare. the republicans are advocating this year, starting on a ...

Put forth. >> you hope not, but is he right somewhere. >> probably. he probably is right. >> well, then, are they going to have to do that? cut the 50% of the work force. >> the federal workers need to definitely go on a freeze. need to cut, that's one point they can cut. education, transportation, law enforcement not working well in jersey where you're doing it. now you're talking about people's lives. we agree with federal cutting but at what costs? >> telling the huffington post, where the gop is going in terms of funding health care. potentially setting up a situation where they will bring...